Amazing SMiLE remix

[shangaijoeBB]

I saw this post on The Flaming Lips' board.

The user foxtrot stowaway made a pretty amazing hip-hop remix of SMiLE called MiLES
if you want to check it out:

https://soundcloud.com/foxtrot-music-1

If you're out there, kudos foxtrot stowaway!

[Dudd]

Hip-hop Smile? I think we could all do with this. 
Sounds amazing!

[The Shift]

Sorry, not my scene at all… so much variance in sound quality, some loud, some quiet, painful stereo balance, that my ears feel bleedin'…

[brother john]

Totally brilliant. This is what Smile could/should have been. On my iPod now.

[Dancing Bear]

over and over a square peg in a round hole in the cornfield.

[buddhahat]

Wow this is great. The most refreshing and  interesting smile mix I've ever heard. Thanks for sharing.

[Nile]

VOOOWWW...
this is great..really gives you an idea how it could all fit together in a messy but logical way..will incorporate some in my mix..

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Heard the first 30 seconds.

Why these morons feel the need to take other peoples music, stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me


The perpetrator should be publicly beheaded. I'd happily bring the sandwiches.

[The Shift]

Heard the first 30 seconds.

Why these morons feel the need to take other peoples music, stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me


The perpetrator should be publicly beheaded. I'd happily bring the sandwiches.

Will there be pickle?

[brother john]

Heard the first 30 seconds.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

The slack-jawed moron who did this would be in a pickle if i caught up with him!

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Heard the first 30 seconds.

No, actually heard a bit more. Enough to tell me that anyone with a computer could have done this. The sad dumbing down of music when people actually applaud this rubbish. Tragic.

[halblaineisgood]

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[halblaineisgood]

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[Iron Horse-Apples]

What I like about you Hal, is one is never sure whose position you're attacking.

[leggo of my ego]

Heard the first 30 seconds.

Why these morons feel the need to take other peoples music, stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me


The perpetrator should be publicly beheaded. I'd happily bring the sandwiches.

rather extreme but I dont fully disagree. 

call me old fashoned... make mine a double

[halblaineisgood]

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[Iron Horse-Apples]

one is never sure whose position you're attacking.

Know that you can't know.

I'm content to be kept guessing. {Insert appropriate smiley here}

[buddhahat]

Heard the first 30 seconds.

Why these morons feel the need to take other peoples music, stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me


The perpetrator should be publicly beheaded. I'd happily bring the sandwiches.

Each to their own, although as a musician than posts your own work here, I'd have thought you might be a little more sensitive in your critique. He could be a poster here for all we know.

I actually found this mix more creative than any I'd previously heard. He completely disregards the structure or existing personality of the songs and creates something fresh and unpredictable out of each one.

For example, he's looped the weirdest section of Heroes & Villains so the line "innocent & spanish girl" is repeated over and over. It's nonsensical, fun, and entirely within the spirit of Smile if you ask me.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I was joking.

I'm sure he knows I wouldn't really bring sandwiches to his execution.

[The Shift]

I was joking.

I'm sure he knows I wouldn't really bring sandwiches to his execution.

Peanut butter?

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I was joking.

I'm sure he knows I wouldn't really bring sandwiches to his execution.

Peanut butter?

Can't, I'm intolerant.

[soniclovenoize]

I also saw foxtrot post this on the Flaming Lips board, liked what I heard and I urged foxtrot to post it here.  He never did though, I'm glad some people found it.  

Heard the first 30 seconds.

Why these morons feel the need to take other peoples music, stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me


The perpetrator should be publicly beheaded. I'd happily bring the sandwiches.

Let me ask you this: do you think it takes no talent to create visual collage art?  A collage artists is "sampling" other works, isn't he?  Or we can take a literary example...  is TS Elliott's The Wasteland without artistic merit because he has essentially "sampled" elements of other literary works?  

There are a finite amount of chords to be played on a piano or guitar...  Do we criticize Brian Wilson or whomever by saying "Why these morons take a D chord and an F#m chord  stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me"

We don't.  You have to remember foxtrot and other electronic artists are using samples as instruments themselves.  

[The Shift]

I was joking.

I'm sure he knows I wouldn't really bring sandwiches to his execution.

Peanut butter?

Can't, I'm intolerant.

Sorry, PEANUT BUTTER?

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I also saw foxtrot post this on the Flaming Lips board, liked what I heard and I urged foxtrot to post it here.  He never did though, I'm glad some people found it.  

Heard the first 30 seconds.

Why these morons feel the need to take other peoples music, stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me


The perpetrator should be publicly beheaded. I'd happily bring the sandwiches.

Let me ask you this: do you think it takes no talent to create visual collage art?  A collage artists is "sampling" other works, isn't he?  Or we can take a literary example...  is TS Elliott's The Wasteland without artistic merit because he has essentially "sampled" elements of other literary works?  

There are a finite amount of chords to be played on a piano or guitar...  Do we criticize Brian Wilson or whomever by saying "Why these morons take a D chord and an F#m chord  stick their stupid, shitty drums over the top, then sit back and imagine they're in some way creative or talented is beyond me"

We don't.  You have to remember foxtrot and other electronic artists are using samples as instruments themselves.  

Not a huge fan of collages no. I think it's lazy.

I'm no literary expert, but didn't TS Eliot take small lines from other writers and use them to comment on a wider picture?


In that context I have nothing against someone taking a small  musical sample and using it to augment a work that contains mostly original work.

And I'm a great admirer of what you've done with your Smile mixes, in most cases.

As for the old 'there's nothing original left to do in music' argument, this is an apologist argument, usually from people who can recognise great art but are unable to create it. Unfortunately we are living through creatively stifled times, where originality is not valued. We are living through a time where 'anyone can have a go' and 'all creativity is valid'. Its like when parents praise their child for every single thing they do. Just one bunch of idiots clapping another bunch of idiots for being able to wipe their arses

Using 100% someone else's work and just adding a drum loop (itself unoriginal) is lazy and uncreative. Anyone could do it.  Let him prove me wrong. Lets hear some original work from him.


Admittedly I was being somewhat flippant in my initial post, but the sentiment is real. It annoys me to see comments like "This is what Smile could have been" Dear God!!!

To me, one of the most original things about Brian Wilson is that he doesn't rely on drums. The percussion is sparing, and for effect. He uses it like a good chef uses  salt and pepper. To hear his work being cheapened in such a way, Well I find it offensive and I'll damn well say so.

I am a snob, and proud of it.

If he reads this then he can feel free to criticise my work. As my work is 100% original, and I invest a lot of time and thought in creating it though, any criticism from him will carry zero weight with me. As harsh as it sounds, if he can't stand criticism, he should keep his 'efforts' private. I'm fully within my rights to criticise someone for lazily stealing someone else's (much respected) music, and sticking house music drums over the top of it.