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« on: May 22, 2014, 05:08:45 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2014, 05:21:36 PM »

The difference is that when PS was ready for release, Mike had come around. Also, Brian was more stable. By the following year, Brian's emotional problems had taken over, along with other issues.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2014, 05:38:14 PM »

  By the late summer of 1967 it had been well over a year since the last studio album. The Beach Boys needed product.
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2014, 05:45:04 PM »

So everyone here knows one of the main reasons SMiLE was cancelled was because Mike Love was very much against it and complained to Brian about how kids in that day wouldn't get what the songs were supposed to be about.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2014, 05:49:26 PM »

It's a trap!
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 06:02:32 PM »

I sense another 13 page thread.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2014, 06:07:02 PM »

Ah the old "If Mike thought SMiLE was too weird and not commercial enough to release, how did Smiley Smile ever get released?"

The answer is simple: SMiLE didn't come out because Brian didn't want it to. Smiley Smile came out because Brian wanted it released.

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2014, 06:34:46 PM »

You also have to include how Mike was probably happy he got to write some songs on smiley smile
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2014, 06:57:22 PM »

You also have to include how Mike was probably happy he got to write some songs on smiley smile

Yeah that's a good point too.
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2014, 08:13:14 PM »

So everyone here knows one of the main reasons SMiLE was cancelled was because Mike Love was very much against it and complained to Brian about how kids in that day wouldn't get what the songs were supposed to be about. That said, how did Mike let Brian release Smiley Smile? It's even more weird and abstract than the original SMiLE sessions!  For as much as there is written about SMiLE, I can't seem to find much about the making of Smiley Smile.

I mean, Mike complained about Pet Sounds too, so how was Brian able to have enough confidence to release that album?

I do not accept the premise.  SMiLE's cancellation was due to Brian.  The release of Smiley Smile illustrates this.

If Pet Sounds was f****ing with the formula Smiley Smile anally raped it. 

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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2014, 10:47:40 PM »

So everyone here knows one of the main reasons SMiLE was cancelled was because Mike Love was very much against it and complained to Brian about how kids in that day wouldn't get what the songs were supposed to be about. That said, how did Mike let Brian release Smiley Smile? It's even more weird and abstract than the original SMiLE sessions!  For as much as there is written about SMiLE, I can't seem to find much about the making of Smiley Smile.

I mean, Mike complained about Pet Sounds too, so how was Brian able to have enough confidence to release that album?

Ahhh... a sweeping and luminously inaccurate statement by someone who hardly posts... Nope, will resist the urge to, well, do what I normally do in such a situation and will merely observe that no, "everyone here" doesn't know that, because it's demonstrably not true.

The other reason I'm not saying anything is because of the transparent troll bait.  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2014, 01:47:58 AM »

So everyone here knows one of the main reasons SMiLE was cancelled was because Mike Love was very much against it and complained to Brian about how kids in that day wouldn't get what the songs were supposed to be about. That said, how did Mike let Brian release Smiley Smile? It's even more weird and abstract than the original SMiLE sessions!  For as much as there is written about SMiLE, I can't seem to find much about the making of Smiley Smile.

I mean, Mike complained about Pet Sounds too, so how was Brian able to have enough confidence to release that album?

Ahhh... a sweeping and luminously inaccurate statement by someone who hardly posts... Nope, will resist the urge to, well, do what I normally do in such a situation and will merely observe that no, "everyone here" doesn't know that, because it's demonstrably not true.

The other reason I'm not saying anything is because of the transparent troll bait.  Grin

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2014, 11:34:48 AM »

with a pompous and condescending remark? yeah well done.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2014, 11:36:56 AM »

Yes, but he did get it out of the "in basket." Into the trash basket.
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2014, 11:39:39 AM »

Another new guy made to feel like a poser by the know-it-alls. It's pretentious and annoying.  police
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2014, 12:32:09 PM »

I like the idea that Mike "let" Brian release Smiley Smile or any other record, tho.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2014, 01:03:42 PM »

Another new guy made to feel like a poser by the know-it-alls. It's pretentious and annoying.  police

Dude made a dumbass - and inaccurate - statement and compounded it by saying "so everyone here knows...": you would have preferred I royally ripped him a new one as was my wont in days of yore ?  And if that wasn't troll bait than I don't know what is.
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2014, 01:56:27 PM »

As this is possibly the most discussed topic in the history of the board I am going to close this
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