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« on: January 11, 2014, 05:08:21 AM »

Does anyone here know the exact month that David Dalton's 1969 photo shoot at Brian's Bellagio studio took place? The photos I'm speaking of have been published in numerous places over the years, including Mojo awhile back and most recently (to my knowledge) the Winter 2010/2011 issue (Number 90) of ESQ. My thoughts are that it had to be prior to early October '69, because Carl was sporting his beard at Big Sur on Oct. 3, yet he's still beardless in these photos. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 06:54:53 AM »

Craig, my impression from somewhere is it was from late Summer/Fall 1967. That's off the top of my head and [edit: NOT] trustworthy. Maybe I can find it. It might have come from an article published by Dalton

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong photos but doesn't Brian have a beard which he also had in one of the May '67 ILTSDD studio photos?
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 07:07:47 AM »

These?

http://www.gadflyonline.com/05-06-02/ftr-epiphany.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 07:19:40 AM »

Craig-I think you are creating some confusion because of the dates!!!! As you well know-Big Sur was 1970 not 1969.  Carl didn't have a beard in 1969, nor did he have one until the fall of 1970
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 09:29:20 AM »

I got the pix from David for inclusion in ESQ - I'll ask.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 09:37:27 AM »

Craig, my impression from somewhere is it was from late Summer/Fall 1967. That's off the top of my head and [edit: NOT] trustworthy. Maybe I can find it. It might have come from an article published by Dalton

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong photos but doesn't Brian have a beard which he also had in one of the May '67 ILTSDD studio photos?

Cam, ol' buddy... you're thinking of the Zuma Beach shots, which were indeed July 1967.  Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 12:05:05 PM »

OK, sorry for the confusion...to UN-confuse, there are two groups of Dave Dalton BBs shots that I'm aware of...one from the "Smiley Smile" era and one from the "Sunflower" era. The "Sunflower" era are the ones I'm asking about...are they from '69, or '70? If '70, they have to be before early October '70 because when they played the Big Sur Folk Festival on Oct. 3, 1970, Carl had a magnficant beard, whe he does not have in the photos I'm asking about.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2014, 12:34:33 PM »

Of course, Steve Desper might remember...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 01:04:50 PM »

I don't know if this helps at all, but you can see Carl is starting his beard at the Warner Brothers signing (the pic is in David Leaf's book).
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2014, 01:34:14 PM »

I don't know if this helps at all, but you can see Carl is starting his beard at the Warner Brothers signing (the pic is in David Leaf's book).

Hmmm....what date would that be (anyone know?).
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2014, 01:42:35 PM »

I don't know if this helps at all, but you can see Carl is starting his beard at the Warner Brothers signing (the pic is in David Leaf's book).

Is this the photo you mean?


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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 03:09:11 PM »

February 1970, I believe.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2014, 03:59:57 PM »

Yeah that's the one.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2014, 04:46:10 PM »

According to the Herores & Villains book, this picture was taken July 27, 1970.



Also this is from June 14, 1970 in Milwaukee.

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2014, 05:20:32 PM »

<<According to the Herores & Villains book, this picture was taken July 27, 1970.>>

Hmm, seems kinda late for them to be signing to Warners...especially since the label had already released a couple of their singles by that time!

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2014, 06:30:58 PM »

Craig, my impression from somewhere is it was from late Summer/Fall 1967. That's off the top of my head and [edit: NOT] trustworthy. Maybe I can find it. It might have come from an article published by Dalton

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong photos but doesn't Brian have a beard which he also had in one of the May '67 ILTSDD studio photos?

Cam, ol' buddy... you're thinking of the Zuma Beach shots, which were indeed July 1967.  Smiley

I wondered if I didn't have the wrong photos.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2014, 10:15:17 PM »

<<According to the Herores & Villains book, this picture was taken July 27, 1970.>>

Hmm, seems kinda late for them to be signing to Warners...especially since the label had already released a couple of their singles by that time!



Top of my head, there were two separate signings (as there were to Capitol, btw). Brian's John Hancock wasn't on the first one.
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2014, 04:58:46 AM »

as detailed in my book-the outdoor concert photos are from Milwaukee and were taken  june 14 1970
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2014, 05:04:12 AM »

as detailed in my book-the outdoor concert photos are from Milwaukee and were taken  june 14 1970

Sure, post is corrected now :D
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2014, 03:04:26 AM »

I like Carl better without the beard. Or rather, the way he looks, as I didn't know the person and a beard wouldn't change his personality, and I should stop typing this now.  Shocked
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2014, 02:03:55 AM »

From Mike's Facebook:

A photo from the backlot of Warner Bros in 1971. We took this photo while signed to Warner Bros for a few albums. This photo also appeared in the hit parader magazine…50 cents a copy back in the day...thanks Bruce Johnston for sharing this with me, brought back some memories.. ML



Anybody knows the date of this one? And what albums they signed for? This is a different signing from the July 27, 1970.
I think it must be early 1971...
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2014, 02:22:05 AM »

(Brain fart)
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2014, 02:22:57 AM »

They were signed to Warners, not signing again.
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2014, 02:34:08 AM »

From Mike's Facebook:

A photo from the backlot of Warner Bros in 1971. We took this photo while signed to Warner Bros for a few albums. This photo also appeared in the hit parader magazine…50 cents a copy back in the day...thanks Bruce Johnston for sharing this with me, brought back some memories.. ML



Anybody knows the date of this one? And what albums they signed for? This is a different signing from the July 27, 1970.
I think it must be early 1971...

The font for this and the leafy background almost makes it look like the BBs were guests on Gilligan's Island. There was in fact a Gilligan's Island episode where a Beatles-esque band came to the island, and The Beatles were mentioned several times in dialog within other episodes. Too bad they never made a Beach Boys reference! </thread topic tangent>
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2014, 03:30:52 AM »

I got the pix from David for inclusion in ESQ - I'll ask.

Andrew - any luck in terms of Mr. Dalton supplying dates for the '69 Bellagio studio shots?
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