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Re: Today's Mainstream Music
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January 15, 2014, 11:52:04 AM »
People who use samples are not musicians. They're DJ's. That's what's sad about the rise of samples: the fact that people no longer have to know how to play an instrument or know how to write their own music. It puts real musicians out of work. Many times the samples used are years or even decades old. Ironically, the music sampled was made by real musicians, who learned an instrument and wrote an actual original song or produced something fresh in a studio. There must have been something valid about that approach (making real music from scratch instead of sampling), or there would be no music to sample from. It's also bad when samples are used and no royalties are paid to the original authors/performers, nor credits given.
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I should add that I think Regina Spektor is immensely talented.
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Quote from: KittyKat on January 15, 2014, 11:52:04 AM
People who use samples are not musicians. They're DJ's. That's what's sad about the rise of samples: the fact that people no longer have to know how to play an instrument or know how to write their own music. It puts real musicians out of work. Many times the samples used are years or even decades old. Ironically, the music sampled was made by real musicians, who learned an instrument and wrote an actual original song or produced something fresh in a studio. There must have been something valid about that approach (making real music from scratch instead of sampling), or there would be no music to sample from. It's also bad when samples are used and no royalties are paid to the original authors/performers, nor credits given.
This is absurd, with the exception of the last sentence. It was discussed earlier in the thread, so if you want to know the opposing position, you can go back and find it. If after you've done that, you still disagree (which, if you do read it, I suspect you still will), I'd be very glad to debate further. But I don't want to repeat the already said.
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Quote from: donald on January 15, 2014, 10:29:40 AM
Anybody see Beyonce in Cadillac Records? If you're an old fart like me, don't judge her untill you see the movie. The woman oozes talent. I just don't like the material she usually performs.
Oh, no doubt she's a fantastic singer and a pretty good actress as well. She just lacks interesting material lately. "Crazy In Love" is a fantastic song though.
Quote from: pixletwin on January 15, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
I should add that I think Regina Spektor is immensely talented.
Hell yeah she is.
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I can't really stand Beyonce but she's pretty damn talented. She's also pretty intelligent at what she does, as i'm sure most people know she just pretty much turned Itunes on it's ear a few weeks ago by releasing a full album and a video for each song with not only no promotion but no pre-notice. She spent 0 money on promo and set records anyways. Very smart businesswoman.
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Re: Today's Mainstream Music
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Quote from: KittyKat on January 15, 2014, 11:52:04 AM
People who use samples are not musicians. They're DJ's. That's what's sad about the rise of samples: the fact that people no longer have to know how to play an instrument or know how to write their own music. It puts real musicians out of work. Many times the samples used are years or even decades old. Ironically, the music sampled was made by real musicians, who learned an instrument and wrote an actual original song or produced something fresh in a studio. There must have been something valid about that approach (making real music from scratch instead of sampling), or there would be no music to sample from. It's also bad when samples are used and no royalties are paid to the original authors/performers, nor credits given.
So, I'm not a musician.
Got it.
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Re: Today's Mainstream Music
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January 20, 2014, 11:14:33 PM »
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on January 15, 2014, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: donald on January 15, 2014, 10:29:40 AM
Anybody see Beyonce in Cadillac Records? If you're an old fart like me, don't judge her untill you see the movie. The woman oozes talent. I just don't like the material she usually performs.
Oh, no doubt she's a fantastic singer and a pretty good actress as well. She just lacks interesting material lately. "Crazy In Love" is a fantastic song though.
Quote from: pixletwin on January 15, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
I should add that I think Regina Spektor is immensely talented.
Hell yeah she is.
The intro to "Crazy In Love" was taken from a Chi-Lites song "Are You My Woman (Tell Me So)" but yes she is a talented singer and that's one of my favorite songs by her.
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Re: Today's Mainstream Music
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January 20, 2014, 11:17:10 PM »
Quote from: retrokid67 on January 20, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on January 15, 2014, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: donald on January 15, 2014, 10:29:40 AM
Anybody see Beyonce in Cadillac Records? If you're an old fart like me, don't judge her untill you see the movie. The woman oozes talent. I just don't like the material she usually performs.
Oh, no doubt she's a fantastic singer and a pretty good actress as well. She just lacks interesting material lately. "Crazy In Love" is a fantastic song though.
Quote from: pixletwin on January 15, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
I should add that I think Regina Spektor is immensely talented.
Hell yeah she is.
The intro to "Crazy In Love" was taken from a Chi-Lites song "Are You My Woman (Tell Me So)" but yes she is a talented singer and that's one of my favorite songs by her.
I agree with everyone that says that Beyonce is a great singer. She really is talented.
That being said, I don't listen to any of her stuff and I don't plan to in the foreseeable future.
She may be a great singer, but the material she performs is horrible, and she really has to choose far better songs!
Love Cadillac Records, great film!
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January 20, 2014, 11:30:49 PM »
Seems like I hear a lot of the good stuff on movie soundtracks or in commercials as I don't listen to the radio much anymore (except ESPN or NPR). Kinda liking some of the Dubstep I'm hearing.
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Re: Today's Mainstream Music
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January 20, 2014, 11:31:33 PM »
Quote from: Maybe I DON'T Know?! on January 20, 2014, 11:17:10 PM
Quote from: retrokid67 on January 20, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on January 15, 2014, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: donald on January 15, 2014, 10:29:40 AM
Anybody see Beyonce in Cadillac Records? If you're an old fart like me, don't judge her untill you see the movie. The woman oozes talent. I just don't like the material she usually performs.
Oh, no doubt she's a fantastic singer and a pretty good actress as well. She just lacks interesting material lately. "Crazy In Love" is a fantastic song though.
Quote from: pixletwin on January 15, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
I should add that I think Regina Spektor is immensely talented.
Hell yeah she is.
The intro to "Crazy In Love" was taken from a Chi-Lites song "Are You My Woman (Tell Me So)" but yes she is a talented singer and that's one of my favorite songs by her.
I agree with everyone that says that Beyonce is a great singer. She really is talented.
That being said, I don't listen to any of her stuff and I don't plan to in the foreseeable future.
She may be a great singer, but the material she performs is horrible, and she really has to choose far better songs!
Love Cadillac Records, great film!
yea and it's too bad Etta James got mad at her for singing "At Last" to the President
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Re: Today's Mainstream Music
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Reply #160 on:
January 20, 2014, 11:34:32 PM »
Quote from: retrokid67 on January 20, 2014, 11:31:33 PM
Quote from: Maybe I DON'T Know?! on January 20, 2014, 11:17:10 PM
Quote from: retrokid67 on January 20, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on January 15, 2014, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: donald on January 15, 2014, 10:29:40 AM
Anybody see Beyonce in Cadillac Records? If you're an old fart like me, don't judge her untill you see the movie. The woman oozes talent. I just don't like the material she usually performs.
Oh, no doubt she's a fantastic singer and a pretty good actress as well. She just lacks interesting material lately. "Crazy In Love" is a fantastic song though.
Quote from: pixletwin on January 15, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
I should add that I think Regina Spektor is immensely talented.
Hell yeah she is.
The intro to "Crazy In Love" was taken from a Chi-Lites song "Are You My Woman (Tell Me So)" but yes she is a talented singer and that's one of my favorite songs by her.
I agree with everyone that says that Beyonce is a great singer. She really is talented.
That being said, I don't listen to any of her stuff and I don't plan to in the foreseeable future.
She may be a great singer, but the material she performs is horrible, and she really has to choose far better songs!
Love Cadillac Records, great film!
yea and it's too bad Etta James got mad at her for singing "At Last" to the President
In Etta's (sort-of) defence, she did claim she was joking and she was upset that she wasn't invited to sing her song on that film.
It's also worth noting that she had Alzheimer's by then, so that most likely had something to do with that
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Re: Today's Mainstream Music
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Quote from: Maybe I DON'T Know?! on January 20, 2014, 11:34:32 PM
Quote from: retrokid67 on January 20, 2014, 11:31:33 PM
Quote from: Maybe I DON'T Know?! on January 20, 2014, 11:17:10 PM
Quote from: retrokid67 on January 20, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on January 15, 2014, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: donald on January 15, 2014, 10:29:40 AM
Anybody see Beyonce in Cadillac Records? If you're an old fart like me, don't judge her untill you see the movie. The woman oozes talent. I just don't like the material she usually performs.
Oh, no doubt she's a fantastic singer and a pretty good actress as well. She just lacks interesting material lately. "Crazy In Love" is a fantastic song though.
Quote from: pixletwin on January 15, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
I should add that I think Regina Spektor is immensely talented.
Hell yeah she is.
The intro to "Crazy In Love" was taken from a Chi-Lites song "Are You My Woman (Tell Me So)" but yes she is a talented singer and that's one of my favorite songs by her.
I agree with everyone that says that Beyonce is a great singer. She really is talented.
That being said, I don't listen to any of her stuff and I don't plan to in the foreseeable future.
She may be a great singer, but the material she performs is horrible, and she really has to choose far better songs!
Love Cadillac Records, great film!
yea and it's too bad Etta James got mad at her for singing "At Last" to the President
In Etta's (sort-of) defence, she did claim she was joking and she was upset that she wasn't invited to sing her song on that film.
It's also worth noting that she had Alzheimer's by then, so that most likely had something to do with that
o ok I didn't know about that, thanks
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I haven't liked mainstream music since the late '80s.
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Quote from: Garneau Mike Woonsocket on January 21, 2014, 07:26:24 AM
I haven't liked mainstream music since the late '80s.
Couldn't agree more. Well once in a while there's a song that I like, but nothing has come anywhere near the best stuff say for example from the 70's. And I'm a 90's kid... Can't even imagine what a person who's lived the better days of pop music thinks about these days.
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January 21, 2014, 09:17:52 AM »
I got a divorce from the mainstream in 1996.
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When I hear talented people like Sara Bareilles, Regina Spektor, KT Tunstall and others, as well as bands like Wilco, I can't entirely write off modern pop music. Just can't do it.
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I agree. But if I had to put a date to when I began to notice the generation gap emerging in my musical tastes, 1996 is the year.
But yes. I love Regina Spektor.
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That's roughly the same time for me too, actually. The mid to late '90s.
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Quote from: pixletwin on January 21, 2014, 09:33:22 AM
But yes. I love Regina Spektor.
Yes very talented. I enjoyed her version of "Real Love".
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Quote from: JohnMill on January 21, 2014, 11:32:57 AM
Quote from: pixletwin on January 21, 2014, 09:33:22 AM
But yes. I love Regina Spektor.
Yes very talented. I enjoyed her version of "Real Love".
Me too. That was the first time I heard her music. Such an excellent arrangement. Keeps it in her style, yet pays homage to the original home recordings.
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The cycle theories about trends in pop music seems very convincing at the moment.....
I never thought the type of techno that dominated european radio, like Scooter and Sasha and Robert Miles would ever get back into the mainstream.
But it's happening. Zedd, are you gonna stay the night (I like it actually),Aviici just a lot songs I hear on CHR and Adult Cont radio sound like that tasteless techno from the 90s
Hell Bastion's song Pompei (close your eyes) remind me of 90s hit Ameno
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Quote from: cablegeddon on January 22, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
The cycle theories about trends in pop music seems very convincing at the moment.....
I never thought the type of techno that once dominated european radio, like Scooter and Sasha and Robert Miles would ever get back into the mainstream.
But it's happening. Zedd, are you gonna stay the night (I like it actually),Aviici just a lot songs I hear on CHR and Adult Cont radio sound like that tasteless techno from the 90s
Hell Bastion's song Pompei (close your eyes) remind me of 90s hit Ameno
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Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!
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Quote from: Maybe I DON'T Know?! on January 25, 2014, 09:50:17 PM
Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!
did you see that newscast on YouTube where the girl interrupted an important topic for him going to jail?
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Quote from: retrokid67 on January 25, 2014, 10:19:05 PM
Quote from: Maybe I DON'T Know?! on January 25, 2014, 09:50:17 PM
Hopefully now the little prick would just disappear into history!
did you see that newscast on YouTube where the girl interrupted an important topic for him going to jail?
Nope. Send me the link
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