The Big Beat 1963

[bgas]

Hi Lee!  And AGD! That new disc looks to be fabulous. Love that track, Bobby Left Me.
I wish the young ones here could feel the mystery and excitement that permeated the
early days of collecting.  Communication and sharing were positively 19th century.  Dudes
on the West Coast had a leg-up.  And so much was unknown.  Great days in the 1970s.

Gosh I wish it was a "disc."  There will not be a physical release -- just download.  Although certain individuals are lobbying for a "Record Store Day" type limited vinyl release at some point...

Lee

Bring it on!  "It's sure to sell a hundred copies in January...."

[dogear]

Hi Don, just wanted to say hello, Gerhard

[D Cunningham]

Gerhard!  I hope you and yours are well.  What a pleasure.

 

[Mikie]

Jim Murphy... you brought a tear to my eyes.  Those good guys who are gone...  Plus Bob H.

Coming back to me now...Seems that great Brad E. Survivors interview should have been in the book.
But the Brad E. items were stepped around.  He might have been planning something of his own.
I don't really recall.

When you mention a voice sounding like Brian...it makes me think of the old debate with the
song Twelve-o-Four, which sure as hell sounds like Brian. 

That Survivors interview was in an "Add Some Music" fanzine issue, wasn't it Don? The one where Norberg or Allarian said they were Beach Boys and did vocals on the Surfer Girl album? Are you saying the interview shoulda been included in your book? Maybe it's good that it was left out - some of it was bull pucky, right?    Maybe he was planning on using it in his Recording Sessions book that never materialized.  Maybe Hank knows..... 

[bgas]

Jim Murphy... you brought a tear to my eyes.  Those good guys who are gone...  Plus Bob H.

Coming back to me now...Seems that great Brad E. Survivors interview should have been in the book.
But the Brad E. items were stepped around.  He might have been planning something of his own.
I don't really recall.

When you mention a voice sounding like Brian...it makes me think of the old debate with the
song Twelve-o-Four, which sure as hell sounds like Brian. 

That Survivors interview was in an "Add Some Music" fanzine issue, wasn't it Don? The one where Norberg or Allarian said they were Beach Boys and did vocals on the Surfer Girl album? Are you saying the interview shoulda been included in your book? Maybe it's good that it was left out - some of it was bull pucky, right?    Maybe he was planning on using it in his Recording Sessions book that never materialized.  Maybe Hank knows..... 

Maybe Brad will just come "out of hiding" and post here. ( maybe he already is)
It's  a message board, I don't think anyone can trace him to his house from here

[Mikie]

Jim Murphy, thanks for your contributions here. This board needs some good meaty stuff about now. Les Chan was a friend of mine in the Bay Area and I miss him too - especially his very abrupt endings to phone calls.    Les' good friend Pete Bogdanos seems to have taken a back seat for awhile, but hopefully will come back and be active in Beachboyland soon.

[bgas]

Jim Wilson, thanks for your contributions here. This board needs some good meaty stuff about now. Les Chan was a friend of mine in the Bay Area and I miss him too - especially his very abrupt endings to phone calls.    Les' good friend Pete Bogdanos seems to have taken a back seat for awhile, but hopefully will come back and be active in Beachboyland soon.

OOPS!!  Jim Murphy! Hope his Irish doesn't come welling up and swat you one Mikie!! 
Pete the Greek hasn't taken a back seat to anyone; he's busy as ever with the Starline variations site, when work allows; he just doesn't post much, tending to send emails instead. 

[LeeDempsey]

Hey Jim,

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but if I were in Capitol's shoes it might be prudent to assume that the performer on a track is a singer who either has a performance contract / release on file, or someone who could be located quickly to execute such a release -- versus someone who is lost to time, and for which no paperwork exists.  Just speculating...

Lee

[LeeDempsey]

Maybe Brad will just come "out of hiding" and post here. ( maybe he already is)
It's  a message board, I don't think anyone can trace him to his house from here

Speaking of Brad, doesn't this mean that THE COMPLETE HITE MORGAN SESSIONS is now in the public domain in the EU???

(Edit: at least the unreleased takes on it.)

Lee

[Mikie]

Jim Wilson, thanks for your contributions here. This board needs some good meaty stuff about now. Les Chan was a friend of mine in the Bay Area and I miss him too - especially his very abrupt endings to phone calls.    Les' good friend Pete Bogdanos seems to have taken a back seat for awhile, but hopefully will come back and be active in Beachboyland soon.

OOPS!!  Jim Murphy! Hope his Irish doesn't come welling up and swat you one Mikie!!  
Pete the Greek hasn't taken a back seat to anyone; he's busy as ever with the Starline variations site, when work allows; he just doesn't post much, tending to send emails instead.  

Sorry, Jim. I work with a "Jim Wilson" and got momentarilly confused.  I can always count on Bgas to jump fast and correct me. Just like he can count on me for correcting him when he always uses the non-word "ALOT" in a sentence.  

[bgas]

Maybe Brad will just come "out of hiding" and post here. ( maybe he already is)
It's  a message board, I don't think anyone can trace him to his house from here

Speaking of Brad, doesn't this mean that THE COMPLETE HITE MORGAN SESSIONS is now in the public domain in the EU???

(Edit: at least the unreleased takes on it.)

Lee

Now that you've pointed it out to him, perhaps we can expect an imminent release!

[D Cunningham]

Yes.  With Brad, it was more like imminent surcease.

But you had to love the guy...his energy, hopes. And for those of us
who got to see him in a traditional dirndl ... great legs!

[bgas]

Yes.  With Brad, it was more like imminent surcease.

But you had to love the guy...his energy, hopes. And for those of us
who got to see him in a traditional dirndl ... great legs!

OH!  To see Brad prancing around the tents at Oktoberfest!!!!

[Mikie]

I never checked out Brad's legs but I think I saw a picture of him once - wearing a beard and a plaid shirt. Wasn't he from Virginia or the Carolinas?  Or God forbid, the DC area?

[Peter Reum]

I have a direct connection to the boys in Paraguay. The Dutch Beach Boys albums "The Definite Album" and "Another Definite Album" ere the source of the title "The Honeys:  The Definite Album Volume III." The  Honeys Box as indeed the second volume of the Collectors Series. The provenance of the Honeys acetates was The Capitol Swap Meet, 1975. Don Speers bought them, then sold them to me when he dumped his collection in disgust upon release of The Beach Boys Love You. They then went to  to my ex, and presumably were bought by Derek Bill, who sold them to Lee. That Honeys Box was purely a fan issue, and was the first time those Capitol sides were collected on one piece of vinyl. according to the guys in Paraguay anyhow.......it seems a bit fitting that almost 40 years later, those Honeys acetates have found their way back, at least musically, to Capitol.

[Jim Murphy]

DON and LEE

Yeah, we lost several good guys and knowledgeable Beach Boys' fans all in a row there. 

Like so many of us on this Board, my introduction to the world of Beach Boys collecting and, in part, their vast body of work came from those familiar mailings from Oxnard, California.  I remember thinking, "What the hell kind of a name is Oxnard?" Derek was probably thinking, "How does a guy in the Bronx grow up liking the Beach Boys?"  Funny thing, I still have all of Derek's lists.  I break them out now and then, and smile at the prices. I guess they seemed fair to expensive back then.  A $300 splash wax "Barbie?"  I'll take 100, thank you very much, and send another 100 to that bgas guy in St. Louis. You know, it's been twenty years, but what the hell does "bgas" mean?  I think Andrew once pointed out that it's a Jan & Dean reference, but it eluded me then as it does now. Derek was a good soul. And back in the day, that Beach Boys Collectors Series was REALLY SOMETHING.  I mean, those releases were just beyond cool to look forward to, receive in the mail, fondle (Did I say fondle?), and listen to.  Bonus Tracks before the term was coined.  Here were fully produced tracks by the guys that, for one reason or another, got left on the shelf. And now they were pressed up on vinyl just like a regular record for your listening enjoyment. Quite frankly, I didn't think about the legal issues or revenue deprivation and such.  And I understand the concern from the artists's point of view. But the recipients of those "custom records" were filled with a sheer innocence and joy to be able to hear more of their favorite band.  That is something with which, at his very soul, I believe Brian could identify. The guy who elevated the 45 rpm record to a work of art.  The guy who transformed the B side from a throw-away track to charting record. A list of Beach Boys' B sides reads like a Greatest Hits album. All packaged in a neat, full-color sleeve for seventy-cents. Brian produced 45s like little gifts. Like all of us, I suspect, I would have purchased -- and did -- every release the guys put out. Unfortunately, but I suppose inevitably, Derek paid the price for his perceived transgressions, but make no mistake that he brought a tremendous amount of joy and happiness to people who have enjoyed a lifetime of the music of the Beach Boys. And that will always be a good thing. So, once again, thank you, Derek.  And this coming Tuesday, while I'm downloading THE BIG BEAT, I'll be thinking of you. And then I'm going to listen to HAWTHORNE HOTSHOTS on Jackalope Records!

I met Les through the live recordings trading circuit back in the day.  On a business visit to the East Coast, he and I, and our good friend, Mike Browning, got together for an evening of Beach Boys fun. Les was always such an upbeat and positive person. His love of the band was contagious. If you weren't already a Beach Boys' fan, you were after speaking with Les. He developed some pretty impressive Beach Boys' connections, and was always willing to share stories, anecdotes, and news.  Some time ago, I bought the promotional sailor's cap that Warner Brothers produced to promote SAIL ON SAILOR. It's a goofy item, I know, but I love authorized promotional stuff. When I received it, it's a size small, at best, as in infant or toddler size small, so it wouldn't fit on my big melon.  But as I was turning it over in my hands and examining it, I looked in the inner lining. And there it was. Written in ink was a name.  Les Chan.  It made me think of his perpetually smiling face. And that it once brought him, as it does me, a measure of joy. That made me smile.

Wayne and Gary Johnson have been friends for thirty years and I have enjoyed many transactions with the Brothers Rockaway. When I visited LA in 1983, I had the good fortune of being invited by Wayne to go see the Honeys who were promoting Ecstasy and playing in a club whose name I cannot recall.  During their set breaks they joined us at the table.  Sweet as, well . . . honey!   

I'm sorry to have inadvertently omitted Bob Hanes from my list of Beach Boys' fans/collectors who left us too soon. I had always heard of Bob's legendary status among collector circles, but never had the privilege to speak with him or have our paths cross.  Surely, my loss. I just re-read Lee's beautiful and moving tribute to Bob posted on this board when Bob transitioned July 5, 2010. Among other things shared during their last conversation, Lee told Bob that he loved him. I literally sat back in my chair when I read that. What an extraordinarily kind thing to say. Now, I did not know Bob, but I would bet a small fortune, or an "I Was There KFWB DAY!" sleeve, that simple act of kindness meant the world to him.  One thing collectors of all sorts eventually realize and come to grips with, is the undeniable futility of collecting things. Records, picture sleeves, sailor hats. I suspect they are all attempts to get a little closer to the pure source of where the music originated.  Some form of transcendence.  But the only thing of real value in this Life is love and friendship. So, while Bob amassed many fun and interesting Beach Boys' collectibles in his life, I feel pretty certain he would have traded them all for that one "I love you" from a true friend who knew and understood. What greater gift?

LEE

Thanks for that perspective on some of the tracks on THE BIG BEAT.  We may need a second set of liner notes to straighten out the legally expedient ones. Gary Usher: If it can't be you on "If It Can't Be You," then who can it be? Paging Larry Denton, clean up on aisle . . . . Oh,well. Thanks for your thoughts Lee, and for sharing your collection with the rest of us! Looking forward to it.


CHRIS

I don't really get my Irish up much anymore.  Wait a second, wait a second . . . that sounds like one of those god-awful Cialis commercials that urge middle-aged men to be "ready when the moment comes," like some sort of Normandy invasion. We mellow as we get older. And, besides, who on this Board would complain being mistaken for a Wilson? And I've been called worse. Much worse. Now. . . let's talk about that Sacramento Guild For Crippled Children concert program. I'll trade you a swatch of Al Jardine's pants for it. And, just to sweeten the deal, and so you have a complete outfit, a shirt, too. Extra small.  


VINYL

The Beach Boys and Capitol/EMI have been pretty good supporters of the resurgence of vinyl. For Record Store Day, specifically, they produced the Heroes and Villains piece for SMILE, although I am still scratching my head why it was on 78 rpm. And the 10" SURFIN SAFARI and ISN'T IT TIME with the very cool gate-fold cover. Having said that, and I always feel unappreciative when I say this, I kind of wish the Boys had supported this past Black Friday with a seven-inch vinyl release from Made In California. Oh, well. Maybe Record Store Day this coming April, although I can't imagine what they would have to promote . . . except, maybe, THE BIG BEAT.   

BRAD

I spoke with Brad not too long ago and we made plans to get together that never materialized. At the time he was living in Roanoke, Virginia. As some of you know, Brad was always an interesting and fascinating guy to speak with, filled with great insight and love for that band. As Don mentioned above, Brad was always hopeful, energetic, and enthusiastic. Although it has now been an astonishing thirty-two years, his Surf's Up still stands as a monumental work, written in that far and distant time before the World Wide Inter-Web, and barely a week goes by that I do not still consult it. Sadly, I suspect it will never be updated and Popular Culture, Ink., his publisher, is now defunct. I was one of the fortunate ones, I suspect, who declined investing $10,000 in FIRST WAVE. I imagine investors at any level have an entirely different, and completely justifiable, view of him. I'm not sure what went wrong there. Financial set-back, personal hardship, greed, something else?  But I had the exact same thought as Lee did.  I remember Brad saying that, in light of copyright laws and public domain (my eyes glaze over with legal issues), after fifty years he would be free and clear to release all of the Hite Morgan recordings. But that milestone occurred in 2012, and no imminent news on its release. The Morgan's decades-long lawsuit involving the recordings was finally resolved a few years back, and the recordings were sold to BUG Music. So, legally speaking, I am uncertain if Brad has any right to issue them now.  Besides, his pockets were never nearly as deep as Brother Records, Incorporated, so it would be a fool's errand to test those waters again. But, interestingly, I bet he has a master copy tucked away somewhere. Actually, I believe the restraining order came down pretty close to the eleventh hour, so does anyone know if the 2-CD set was actually manufactured?  If it was, I wonder where they wound up?  Probably in a landfill somewhere in eastern Pennsylvania with the original SMILE booklets.   

PETER

Always good when the esteemed Mr. Reum checks in for a visit. Us East Coast guys dreamed about those Capitol Records swap meets, but it was a long walk from the Bronx. Oh, for a time machine.  What a great era for collecting. And, please, never tell me what those Honeys' acetates sold for. How many were there?  One for each song, presumably?  I had to laugh when I read "dumped his collection in disgust upon release of The Beach Boys Love You.  I don't know Speers, but, wow, talk about a visceral reaction to some hoarse vocals. But, truth be told, my brother and I listened to the LOVE YOU preview on New York radio, WNEW I think, and we looked at each other like, "What the eff is this? Maybe another take, Bri?" Suffice it to say, some of Brian has to grow on you through the historical lens of time.  Interesting phenomenon that lens of time. Thanks, Peter, for your association with those boys in Paraguay. Brought me and many others lots of happiness. And your generous loan is safe and sound and will be making its way home shortly. 

[LeeDempsey]

I have a direct connection to the boys in Paraguay. The Dutch Beach Boys albums "The Definite Album" and "Another Definite Album" ere the source of the title "The Honeys:  The Definite Album Volume III." The  Honeys Box as indeed the second volume of the Collectors Series. The provenance of the Honeys acetates was The Capitol Swap Meet, 1975. Don Speers bought them, then sold them to me when he dumped his collection in disgust upon release of The Beach Boys Love You. They then went to  to my ex, and presumably were bought by Derek Bill, who sold them to Lee. That Honeys Box was purely a fan issue, and was the first time those Capitol sides were collected on one piece of vinyl. according to the guys in Paraguay anyhow.......it seems a bit fitting that almost 40 years later, those Honeys acetates have found their way back, at least musically, to Capitol.

Actually I never got any of those Derek Bill Honeys acetates; I think Daniel may have bought them back for Marilyn.  My acetates mostly came from a collection that Rockaway Records bought in 1996 or 1997 (anybody remember who's it was?).  I remember that "Rabbit's Foot" was relatively cheap compared to some of the others that were in the list.  But what I think happened is Wayne or Gary dropped the needle on the first 15 or 20 seconds of it, listened to it, and said, "Well, this is just the 'Our Car Club' track, and that's already been released as a bonus track on the two-fers," and picked up the needle before the Honeys jumped in.  I remember when I told bgas what it really was, he called Rockaway and told them that they blew it.  They never gave me another great deal after that.  Thanks Chris!

Peter, I think the only thing from your ex's collection that I bought off of Derek was the "Add Some Music" 8-track and cassette color separations.  Still have those.

Lee

[D Cunningham]

Jim, What a beautiful post. I think I made it to one Capital swap.  Think I handled a Help Me Rhonda acetate and put it down.  I did purchase
a large MIU album promo poster, with the period babe on a beach holding the colorful umbrella.  I've got that in a big frame to this day.  But that is all.

I'm happy to say that one of the last things I said to Bob H. was I love you.  He had been Emailing materials about some leftist left coast doings.
Harmless stuff, really. I wrote him an Email saying something like, "I love you Bob, but stop sending me that stuff."  Hah.  Bittersweet.

Wonderful people in the Beach Boys universe.

Does anybody know what became of Mike Clark?  Peter?
 

[TV Forces]

There are more rarities on this thing than the MADE IN CALIFORNIA box.

[LeeDempsey]

Indeed, the excitement about this is like the old days, when a new outtake would surface and I'd get a call from Bob Hanes saying, "Listen to this!" in his "Magic Transistor Radio" voice before he played it over the phone.

It's been three and a half years since Bob passed away, but we owe Bob more for this release coming out that you would think... Right Peter? 

Lee

[Mikie]

Beach Boys fan pre-internet primary sources for my collection and knowledge:

Beach Boys Freaks United - Lillie
Pet Sounds fanzine - Leaf
Add Some Music fanzine - Cunningham
Friends Of The Beach Boys fanzine - Taber (Cancelled subscription after 1rst issue)
Endless Summer Quarterly fanzine - Beard, Mast, Edgil, Dempsey
Beach Boys Stomp fanzine - Grant
The Clown Princes of Rock & Roll - A California Saga - Colville
Friends of Dennis Wilson fanzine - Duffy
Goldmine Magazine
Discoveries Magazine
Record Collector Magazine
Peter Reum auction lists
Derek Bill auction lists (Visited Brian in Bel Aire with Derek)
Steve Bates auction lists
Midnight Records auction lists
Capitol Records parking lot record swap meets, Los Angeles, Pasadena (maybe 5 or 6 of them)
Tower, Moe's, Rasputin's, Leopold's, Amoeba Records, Berzerkely
Tower, Let It Be Records, Recycled Records, Streetlight Records, Amoeba's, San Fransicko
Tower, Rockaway Music, Music Man Murry, Wenzel's Music Town, Wallach's Music City, Record Collector, Peaches, Los Angeles
Tower, Rare Records, 804 K St. Mall, 9th St. Records, Sacramento
Tower, Rowe's Rare Records, Big Al's Record Barn, San Jose
Blue Meanie Records, El Cahones
Forgot the name, Singapore, mail order only, original silver CD's up the wazoo.

I also traded with Les Chan and a guy named Mark Plummer from Washington State. And Paul Hansen up the road from me. And Don Spears, who lived 20 minutes away in Hayward, Ca. One day Don called me up, told me his father had just passed away and he was selling his collection. I was shocked. He offered his Kenny & The Cadets and Bob & Sheri to me for a reasonable price. He says, "Mike I'll give you my Bob & Sheri record for 300 bucks. I passed, because at the time, 300 bucks was a lot of money for a 45, and I had bills to pay. Looking back now, I kick myself. I think it was mint or close to mint. Spears had pretty much everything and the money to get what he didn't have. He shared tapes and other stuff with me. Like Plummer, he just dropped off the Earth - haven't heard from either of them since the 70's. Plummer, who also had a great Jan & Dean collection, always mentioned Peter's name. Peter has this and Peter has that. My first source for a SMiLE tape in the late 70's. I have an 8x10 picture on my wall of a picture that Les took of Brian Wilson and me in front of his limo at one of the Beach Boys conventions in San Diego. That's prized possession next to my Surf's Up poster and the poster of The Boys circa '71 (a picture of the band that Steve Desper took in Brian's back yard during a Surf's Up session). All the BB conventions in Oakland and San Diego were great. And back in '04 (?) I got my picture taken with Les, Will Brison, Frank Holmes, and others after dinner with them in S.F. - another night to remember. Will brought a couple of Smile goodies with him - I tried not to leave any drool marks on them. Les was always real good at organizing conventions and get-togethers with fans and stuff. He's missed. So is the guy who traded tapes and not only made BB T-shirts, but would give you the shirt off his back, Greg Larson. Had a lot of phone conversations with Greg; some after he'd obviously knocked back a few. Good people. Good times....

[Jim Murphy]

Mikie --

That's quite the list. Thanks for posting it. Lots of overlap with the one in my mind, but many more West Coast sources. I bought many, many things from Blue Meannie and Gary Schrum.  Got to stop in and meet him once while I was in San Diego. Now I speak with him at Heritage Auction in Dallas. Great guy. Some of my NYC haunts were Strider Records, House of Oldies, Midnight Records. I bought a beautifully autographed "Here Comes the Night" blue vinyl 12 inch single in the Village for ten bucks.  The clerk didn't realize it was signed by all five Beach Boys.  The down side? I almost sprained my wrist trying to get my wallet out that fast

I remember getting Goldmine and Discoveries and pouring over those Set Sale lists in tiny tiny print.

Beach Boys' fans/collectors have got to be some of the nicest people in the world.

I chuckled about the $300 for a mint Bob & Sheri, but you're right.  Back in the 1970s, that was A LOT of money.  I remember getting Derek's list, making my own want list from it, and thinking, "Hmm, I'd really like that one, but that's too much money."  Everything is relative, I suppose.

So, and this question is for anyone who can shed some light on it (Lee, Chris, Peter, Don), what's the story about the Honeys' acetates?  How many are there? Are there basically one each for the unreleased tracks that appeared on THE HONEYS DEFINITE set?  Is there one for "Funny Boy?"  And, somewhat related, whatever happened to the "Thank Him" acetate offered a bit ago?  Did that find its way back to Brian?

[LeeDempsey]

Good question Jim.  I don't know how many of each acetate there are, but I think I was offered "Darlin' I'm Not Steppin' Out On You" several times over the years, so I always assumed there was more than one.

"Funny Boy," "Mother May I," and the rest of that batch - I may be wrong, but I believe that tape was found in Audree's possessions when the family was searching for material for the 1993 Good Vibrations boxed set. I'm guessing reference cassettes were made for the family and for folks in the Tower, but then the trail gets lost. 15 or so years later we get the IN THE BEGINNING boot.  There were a bunch of surprises on that for me.

I think I heard that the "Thank Him" acetate was acquired on Brian's behalf.

Lee

[HeyJude]

There are more rarities on this thing than the MADE IN CALIFORNIA box.

I understand that some folks have a particular interest in this early era side project sort of stuff, but I can think of a few dozen tracks on MIC that are both more interesting and more important in my view than anything on this new set.

I dunno, I appreciate all the work going into this set, it's nothing but good. But I can't get too super enthused about a download-only compilation of outside productions, side projects, and demos, all from 1963, and sourced from varieties of sources, and released for the sole intention of keeping stuff from falling into public domain. I'd take the alternate take of "Meant for You" over anything on this set. It's of course cool that we don't have to choose.

[bgas]

Mikie --

That's quite the list. Thanks for posting it. Lots of overlap with the one in my mind, but many more West Coast sources. I bought many, many things from Blue Meannie and Gary Schrum.  Got to stop in and meet him once while I was in San Diego. Now I speak with him at Heritage Auction in Dallas. Great guy. Some of my NYC haunts were Strider Records, House of Oldies, Midnight Records. I bought a beautifully autographed "Here Comes the Night" blue vinyl 12 inch single in the Village for ten bucks.  The clerk didn't realize it was signed by all five Beach Boys.  The down side? I almost sprained my wrist trying to get my wallet out that fast

I remember getting Goldmine and Discoveries and pouring over those Set Sale lists in tiny tiny print.

Beach Boys' fans/collectors have got to be some of the nicest people in the world.

I chuckled about the $300 for a mint Bob & Sheri, but you're right.  Back in the 1970s, that was A LOT of money.  I remember getting Derek's list, making my own want list from it, and thinking, "Hmm, I'd really like that one, but that's too much money."  Everything is relative, I suppose.

So, and this question is for anyone who can shed some light on it (Lee, Chris, Peter, Don), what's the story about the Honeys' acetates?  How many are there? Are there basically one each for the unreleased tracks that appeared on THE HONEYS DEFINITE set?  Is there one for "Funny Boy?"  And, somewhat related, whatever happened to the "Thank Him" acetate offered a bit ago?  Did that find its way back to Brian?

  It's all just $$...  If Don had offered me the Bob and Sheri for $300, I'd have found it, without a second thought. I bought my red/yellow Kenny from Derek for $375( 1975?), which was ALOT then for sure, but how often do you get that chance?( Course that was all I bought for a while)  But we all make choices.
 
Anyway,  Honeys acetates:  I don't really know quantity. Have to believe there would be more than one of each, but I've never seen another like mine offered. How about yours Don?
We have to believe there's only one Rabbit's Foot. IF there are more, Wayne's waiting until Lee ponies up some REAL $$$$

I also heard  THANK HIM was bought on behalf of Brian; don't know for sure. ( Maybe it was Lee that told me)

Mark Plummer and his Ripped Baggies Club....