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« on: November 06, 2013, 12:45:00 PM »

i couldn't find a thread or much said or written about this track...

the version I'm referring to is the bonus track to the Brian Wilson 'Do it Again' Cd Single from 1995...

I never really liked it much before until I heard it again..... I think it has great background vocals and harmonies and

Brian sounds like his "orange crate art' vocal era....... some are a little ordinary, other parts really good...

I would say check it out on youtube, but I don't think 'this' version is on there, only the pirated paley version....

the disc says produced by Don Was, so did Don produce this track?.... or was it recorded during the paley sessions?....


was anything else recorded during the Don Was sessions that folks know about?.....


interesting to see how productive Brian was during this time period..... Paley, Was, The Beach Boys...... and so little released

'officially' out there....

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 12:53:36 PM »

Pretty sure that Don had next to nothing to do with This Song Want to Sleep With You -- his credit was more for the other tracks on the single.

I also don't think there is an pirated Paley version -- I'm pretty sure that all circulating versions of this song come from that same European CD single (it was issued a year or two before the Paley sessions were widely booted).

As for the Was sessions, I think there may have been another song or two tried (AGD's site might have more on this), but nothing of any consequence.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 01:40:05 PM »

One of Brian's best solo songs imo. Absolutely gorgeous, beautiful and so Brian
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 01:41:55 PM »

Don Was sessions, November 1995:

  7 - session: Must Be A Miracle/Soul Searchin'/Turn On Your Love Light/It's Not Easy
                    Being Me/You're Still A Mystery [Oceanway] [10]

  8 - session: Must Be A Miracle/Soul Searchin'/Turn On Your Love Light/It's Not Easy
                    Being Me/You're Still A Mystery [Oceanway] [10]

16 - session: Soul Searchin' [vocals] [Oceanway] [10]

17 - session: Soul Searchin' [vocals] [Oceanway] [10]

And note #10 is:

  The Don Was-produced sessions for a putative new Beach Boys album. In fact Was
  produced the tracks and Brian the vocals: the full band was present. The sessions were
  abruptly terminated when Carl announced he didn't like Brian's new material and refused
  to take any further part. Important note: the widely bootlegged versions of "Soul
  Searchin'" and "You're Still A Mystery" from these sessions comprise the BW-produced
  vocals (but not all of them...) 'flown in' to the original Wilson/Paley session tracks. Those
  who have heard the Was versions consider them uninspiring. This was the last time
  Brian & The Beach Boys were in the studio recording original material until May 2011.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 01:55:54 PM »

Is Turn on your Lovelight the old R+B chestnut recorded by many people including Otis Redding Edgar Winter + Bobby Blue Bland..? The other 4 are BW songs and the only one I would think CW would object to would be Its not easy being me. Cant see why CW would object to those other 3.They maybe a little quirky but that's BW.. Now lovelight if its the R+B chestnut I cant see the BB doin that song on there best day no matter what.. LOL.!
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 02:16:01 PM »

Maybe it's the Neil Diamond song...
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 02:28:37 PM »

Wasn't that Turn on your Heartlight?  The one Mr Wilson is referring to was done by the Righteous Brothers in 1966.  Also done by Van with Them and Long John too.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 02:44:24 PM »

ahh thanks for the info guys......

another question..... does that make 'this song want's to sleep'  and 'in my moondreams'?.....
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the only stuff recorded with Paley that was released at the time?.....   

I wouldn't count 'soul searchin' etc as they came 'modified' etc than was was recorded and released from the 95'ish' time period...

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 02:56:58 PM »

ahh thanks for the info guys......

another question..... does that make 'this song want's to sleep'  and 'in my moondreams'?.....
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the only stuff recorded with Paley that was released at the time?.....  

I wouldn't count 'soul searchin' etc as they came 'modified' etc than was was recorded and released from the 95'ish' time period...

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Also released at the time were "Sweets for My Sweet" and "This Could Be the Night," on Doc Pomus and Harry Nilsson tribute albums, respectively.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 03:04:49 PM »

Wasn't that Turn on your Heartlight?  The one Mr Wilson is referring to was done by the Righteous Brothers in 1966.  Also done by Van with Them and Long John too.
Just called Heartlight. I think Andrew (oops, sorry), AGD was joking.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2013, 03:07:25 PM »

Don Was sessions, November 1995:

  7 - session: Must Be A Miracle/Soul Searchin'/Turn On Your Love Light/It's Not Easy
                    Being Me/You're Still A Mystery [Oceanway] [10]

  8 - session: Must Be A Miracle/Soul Searchin'/Turn On Your Love Light/It's Not Easy
                    Being Me/You're Still A Mystery [Oceanway] [10]


Has it ever been said how much work was done on Miracle, Love Light and INEBM? I can't imagine it was particularly extensive ...
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2013, 06:32:04 PM »

ahh thanks for the info guys......

another question..... does that make 'this song want's to sleep'  and 'in my moondreams'?.....
??...
the only stuff recorded with Paley that was released at the time?.....  

I wouldn't count 'soul searchin' etc as they came 'modified' etc than was was recorded and released from the 95'ish' time period...

Rb

Also released at the time were "Sweets for My Sweet" and "This Could Be the Night," on Doc Pomus and Harry Nilsson tribute albums, respectively.

Brian's version of This Could Be the Night is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZaVHqDDyKI
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2013, 09:02:52 PM »

Don Was sessions, November 1995:

  7 - session: Must Be A Miracle/Soul Searchin'/Turn On Your Love Light/It's Not Easy
                    Being Me/You're Still A Mystery [Oceanway] [10]

  8 - session: Must Be A Miracle/Soul Searchin'/Turn On Your Love Light/It's Not Easy
                    Being Me/You're Still A Mystery [Oceanway] [10]

16 - session: Soul Searchin' [vocals] [Oceanway] [10]

17 - session: Soul Searchin' [vocals] [Oceanway] [10]

And note #10 is:

  The Don Was-produced sessions for a putative new Beach Boys album. In fact Was
  produced the tracks and Brian the vocals: the full band was present. The sessions were
  abruptly terminated when Carl announced he didn't like Brian's new material and refused
  to take any further part. Important note: the widely bootlegged versions of "Soul
  Searchin'" and "You're Still A Mystery" from these sessions comprise the BW-produced
  vocals (but not all of them...) 'flown in' to the original Wilson/Paley session tracks. Those
  who have heard the Was versions consider them uninspiring. This was the last time
  Brian & The Beach Boys were in the studio recording original material until May 2011.

And is the bootleg version of "this song want's (sic!) to sleep with you" the same as the released one?
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2013, 09:12:16 PM »

While I don't doubt the one on the single was from the Paley sessions but seeing as it was included on a single from the Was produced sessions for the IJWMFTT documentary, I would assume he'd worked on it with Brian during that time, as opposed to the 1995 BB sessions.  Any chance?
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2013, 09:36:30 PM »

My memory could be cheating, but I recall an interview with Don Was before the documentary came out, indicating that "This Song..." was supposed to end the film.  The idea being that up to that point the whole film was in black and white and then Brian would perform the song in colour, with a  "this is Brian Wilson today" feel.  I was surprised when the documentary came out and there was no sign of that ending.  Anyone else remember this?
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2013, 09:43:56 PM »

My memory could be cheating, but I recall an interview with Don Was before the documentary came out, indicating that "This Song..." was supposed to end the film.  The idea being that up to that point the whole film was in black and white and then Brian would perform the song in colour, with a  "this is Brian Wilson today" feel.  I was surprised when the documentary came out and there was no sign of that ending.  Anyone else remember this?

I've never heard that but while the song is pretty good, it's not quite spectacular enough for that kind of ending which I think would have been pretty jarring anyways, at least from a filmmaking standpoint.  I think the song itself could have been included but as far as that movie goes, I think "Do It Again" makes for a better finale and perhaps this was realized by whoever was involved with the promotion as well.  "Do It Again" was the actual single, "This Song Wants to Sleep With You Tonight" was the B-side.
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2013, 10:47:16 PM »

My memory could be cheating, but I recall an interview with Don Was before the documentary came out, indicating that "This Song..." was supposed to end the film.  The idea being that up to that point the whole film was in black and white and then Brian would perform the song in colour, with a  "this is Brian Wilson today" feel.  I was surprised when the documentary came out and there was no sign of that ending.  Anyone else remember this?

I recall it exactly that way... except that the song in question was "Orange Crate Art", so one of us is wrong. Probably me.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2013, 11:44:18 PM »

Some extra bones here:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=4881.0
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2013, 12:10:08 AM »

My memory could be cheating, but I recall an interview with Don Was before the documentary came out, indicating that "This Song..." was supposed to end the film.  The idea being that up to that point the whole film was in black and white and then Brian would perform the song in colour, with a  "this is Brian Wilson today" feel.  I was surprised when the documentary came out and there was no sign of that ending.  Anyone else remember this?


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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2013, 01:16:08 AM »

Quirky little song with a killer middle eight! Much better than any of the re-recordings on IJWMFTT, which is quite a strange album I think. They were probably going for an MTV Unplugged feel, which I never really liked even back then.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2013, 02:52:17 AM »

Pretty sure that Don had next to nothing to do with This Song Want to Sleep With You -- his credit was more for the other tracks on the single.

I also don't think there is an pirated Paley version -- I'm pretty sure that all circulating versions of this song come from that same European CD single (it was issued a year or two before the Paley sessions were widely booted).

As for the Was sessions, I think there may have been another song or two tried (AGD's site might have more on this), but nothing of any consequence.

This makes me wonder if there's more from those sessions that hasn't leaked. Does anyone know whether there are any other tracks not circulating from the original Paley sessions? Some of the booted stuff seems less common - including "Some Sweet Day", which is one of best tracks from the sessions.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2013, 11:52:48 AM »

My memory could be cheating, but I recall an interview with Don Was before the documentary came out, indicating that "This Song..." was supposed to end the film.  The idea being that up to that point the whole film was in black and white and then Brian would perform the song in colour, with a  "this is Brian Wilson today" feel.  I was surprised when the documentary came out and there was no sign of that ending.  Anyone else remember this?

That is the story, and it was indeed going to be "This Song...", but the interview where I read this was with Andy Paley, not Was. It was in Paley's extensive interview on the short-lived petsounds.com website.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2013, 12:27:36 PM »

Pretty sure that Don had next to nothing to do with This Song Want to Sleep With You -- his credit was more for the other tracks on the single.

I also don't think there is an pirated Paley version -- I'm pretty sure that all circulating versions of this song come from that same European CD single (it was issued a year or two before the Paley sessions were widely booted).

As for the Was sessions, I think there may have been another song or two tried (AGD's site might have more on this), but nothing of any consequence.

This makes me wonder if there's more from those sessions that hasn't leaked. Does anyone know whether there are any other tracks not circulating from the original Paley sessions? Some of the booted stuff seems less common - including "Some Sweet Day", which is one of best tracks from the sessions.

There were definitely more songs mentioned at that time.  I remember reading in an ESQ about the Paley sessions from the 90s, I think the title of it was "Brian's Great New Music," or something like that.  It has a long list of song titles, and as I got the 2 Paley Session CDs, I remember looking to see what I didn't have, and there were at least 10 that had not been leaked.  I would get the ESQ out, and type them up, but I have no idea where it would be at now, or if I even still have it.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2013, 12:49:45 PM »

Pretty sure that Don had next to nothing to do with This Song Want to Sleep With You -- his credit was more for the other tracks on the single.

I also don't think there is an pirated Paley version -- I'm pretty sure that all circulating versions of this song come from that same European CD single (it was issued a year or two before the Paley sessions were widely booted).

As for the Was sessions, I think there may have been another song or two tried (AGD's site might have more on this), but nothing of any consequence.

This makes me wonder if there's more from those sessions that hasn't leaked. Does anyone know whether there are any other tracks not circulating from the original Paley sessions? Some of the booted stuff seems less common - including "Some Sweet Day", which is one of best tracks from the sessions.

There were definitely more songs mentioned at that time.  I remember reading in an ESQ about the Paley sessions from the 90s, I think the title of it was "Brian's Great New Music," or something like that.  It has a long list of song titles, and as I got the 2 Paley Session CDs, I remember looking to see what I didn't have, and there were at least 10 that had not been leaked.  I would get the ESQ out, and type them up, but I have no idea where it would be at now, or if I even still have it.

I'll venture this is maybe not the article you mean, but from
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2013, 12:56:16 PM »

Pretty sure that Don had next to nothing to do with This Song Want to Sleep With You -- his credit was more for the other tracks on the single.

I also don't think there is an pirated Paley version -- I'm pretty sure that all circulating versions of this song come from that same European CD single (it was issued a year or two before the Paley sessions were widely booted).

As for the Was sessions, I think there may have been another song or two tried (AGD's site might have more on this), but nothing of any consequence.

This makes me wonder if there's more from those sessions that hasn't leaked. Does anyone know whether there are any other tracks not circulating from the original Paley sessions? Some of the booted stuff seems less common - including "Some Sweet Day", which is one of best tracks from the sessions.

There were definitely more songs mentioned at that time.  I remember reading in an ESQ about the Paley sessions from the 90s, I think the title of it was "Brian's Great New Music," or something like that.  It has a long list of song titles, and as I got the 2 Paley Session CDs, I remember looking to see what I didn't have, and there were at least 10 that had not been leaked.  I would get the ESQ out, and type them up, but I have no idea where it would be at now, or if I even still have it.

I'll venture this is maybe not the article you mean, but from an ESQ interview with Andy9 march 1995), comes this list of titles:  

    

That is it, looks like my 10 number was high, more like 4, but I know I read other articles about it too, which may have mentioned some of the others like "Frankie Avalon."  There was definitely an article that talked about the studio version of "I'm A Little Teapot" too.  Backstage in 99 I was waiting to meet Brian in Boston, he was in a separate room where there was a piano, and the door was closed, but I could hear him playing the piano.  He was playing "I'm a Little Teapot."  
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