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« on: November 04, 2013, 08:07:00 PM »

“I was listening to a new Beach Boys album ( “That’s Why God Made The Radio”) and it was so obvious the vocals had been auto tuned,” fumed Cummings. “Obviously I was not impressed. I mean this is the same Beach Boys that recorded Pet Sounds and all those great vocal harmonies yet they felt they had to resort to auto-tuning!
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 08:28:59 PM »

I mean Burton's not wrong but the auto tune is no reason to dislike the album
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 08:42:40 PM »

Who is Burton Cummings...?
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 08:46:21 PM »

Who is Burton Cummings...?

The Guess Who
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 08:48:24 PM »

Who gives a damn? He's one dude with an opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 08:58:46 PM »

Off with his head!!
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 09:42:14 PM »

I trust his judgement. But he needs to listen to "the suite" again.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 09:56:13 PM »


He also had a fairly big solo hit with "Stand Tall." He has a point about the autotune. I'm sure they don't sing as well as they did when they did "Pet Sounds," but it would have been more poignant to hear unvarnished old guy Beach Boys.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 10:00:47 PM »

Ahhh....gotcha. Only member I was familiar with was Bachman.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 10:25:54 PM »

Share The Land is a classic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQJ4toj-JY
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 11:25:45 PM »

Who gives a damn? He's one dude with an opinion.

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2013, 12:05:06 AM »

Cummings is passionate about the music he loves, and he does love the Beach Boys. I can tolerate the autotune on TWGMTR, but not on the live album. I will stick with The Beach Boys in Concert from '73 when I want to hear a strong live BB's album. Live in London is a good listen, too.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2013, 12:13:37 AM »

The auto tune is no reason to dislike the album

I beg to differ. I physically can't listen to it. I've tried and tried. I get through the first song, on which the pitch correction isn't too bad, but by the first few seconds of "Isn't It Time", I've quickly turned it off, my face looking like I've just tasted something fetid and rotten.

Yes, I've heard the suite, but again, the pitch correction renders it too painful for me to listen to.

I'll stick with Love You thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2013, 12:55:49 AM »

I'm happy with 99.9% of the album. Also gotta bear in mind that back in the 60s/70s BW/tBBs sped up or slowed down tapes to get the effects he wanted, which is arguably no different –  it was the best technology available at the time. Nothing from the 60s is rendered unlistenable as a result…

If it had been done to the extent of Michael Bublé's recordings, or the X-Factor shows, then I WOULD be upset!
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2013, 01:24:15 AM »


I'll stick with Love You thanks.

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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2013, 02:30:34 AM »

The auto tune is no reason to dislike the album

I beg to differ. I physically can't listen to it. I've tried and tried. I get through the first song, on which the pitch correction isn't too bad, but by the first few seconds of "Isn't It Time", I've quickly turned it off, my face looking like I've just tasted something fetid and rotten.

Yes, I've heard the suite, but again, the pitch correction renders it too painful for me to listen to.

I'll stick with Love You thanks.

Suggest you don't go within 250 miles of the 2012 "live" album then. Every cell in your body will explode.
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 03:12:59 AM »

I don't like TWGMTR either. Shrug
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 03:40:43 AM »

I beg to differ. I physically can't listen to it. I've tried and tried. I get through the first song, on which the pitch correction isn't too bad, but by the first few seconds of "Isn't It Time", I've quickly turned it off, my face looking like I've just tasted something fetid and rotten.

Oh dear.  I'm glad I'm not so much of a music fan that I can hate music like that.  :-)

Cheers,
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 03:50:43 AM »

I beg to differ. I physically can't listen to it. I've tried and tried. I get through the first song, on which the pitch correction isn't too bad, but by the first few seconds of "Isn't It Time", I've quickly turned it off, my face looking like I've just tasted something fetid and rotten.

Oh dear.  I'm glad I'm not so much of a music fan that I can hate music like that.  :-)

Cheers,
Jon Blum

Its not a conscious choice, or me being snobbish. The food analogy is the closest I can get to explaining it. For me, listening to badly executed pitch correction is like eating something very unpleasant. I've had  negative physical reactions to music / genres / instruments I don't like since I was very small.

I'm sad I don't like it. I trust the majority of people on here who say there's some great stuff on it. I'm missing out.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 03:58:28 AM »

The auto tune is no reason to dislike the album

I beg to differ. I physically can't listen to it. I've tried and tried. I get through the first song, on which the pitch correction isn't too bad, but by the first few seconds of "Isn't It Time", I've quickly turned it off, my face looking like I've just tasted something fetid and rotten.

Yes, I've heard the suite, but again, the pitch correction renders it too painful for me to listen to.

I'll stick with Love You thanks.

Suggest you don't go within 250 miles of the 2012 "live" album then. Every cell in your body will explode.

This is why I read this board. Forearmed is forewarned.

Will be keeping a close look on here as the next Joe Thomas project appears on the horizon.  With an open mind obviously.  angel
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2013, 03:59:59 AM »

Burton Cummings also sang (autotune-less) backup vocals on Carl's "Youngblood" album.  Funny that Carl ended up working with two members or former members of the Guess Who.
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2013, 06:00:53 AM »

The auto tune is no reason to dislike the album

I beg to differ. I physically can't listen to it. I've tried and tried. I get through the first song, on which the pitch correction isn't too bad, but by the first few seconds of "Isn't It Time", I've quickly turned it off, my face looking like I've just tasted something fetid and rotten.

Yes, I've heard the suite, but again, the pitch correction renders it too painful for me to listen to.

I'll stick with Love You thanks.

Though I feel completely different than you do, I can understand you. I thought the vox on the album sounded weird at first, but I've gotten used to it, so I can enjoy the music. (Except one song that makes me cringe...)

Personally, I feel about that way when I listen to Love You! Those terrible synths, the croaking vocals, the anti-dynamic drum tracks - just makes me cringe and sad and wish somebody would rerecord the album with real arrangements. Many of the songs are quite good, and had they been recorded and arranged in the 1965-1970 period, they would be classics. But this way... earlier this year I listened to the whole album once more, and after that I managed to listen to SIP and stand the first four tracks without skipping after a few bars!

Remember, I'm just one guy with an opinion! Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2013, 06:07:26 AM »

He's entitled to his opinion and it's not like it's a blasphemous one. Anyway, imagine if they'd gotten the vocals to sound like Brian's on the Disney album, recorded just the year before - some of those songs would have been on the Pet Sounds level without any qualifiers.
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2013, 06:45:58 AM »

The auto tune is no reason to dislike the album

I beg to differ. I physically can't listen to it. I've tried and tried. I get through the first song, on which the pitch correction isn't too bad, but by the first few seconds of "Isn't It Time", I've quickly turned it off, my face looking like I've just tasted something fetid and rotten.

Yes, I've heard the suite, but again, the pitch correction renders it too painful for me to listen to.

I'll stick with Love You thanks.

Though I feel completely different than you do, I can understand you. I thought the vox on the album sounded weird at first, but I've gotten used to it, so I can enjoy the music. (Except one song that makes me cringe...)

Personally, I feel about that way when I listen to Love You! Those terrible synths, the croaking vocals, the anti-dynamic drum tracks - just makes me cringe and sad and wish somebody would rerecord the album with real arrangements. Many of the songs are quite good, and had they been recorded and arranged in the 1965-1970 period, they would be classics. But this way... earlier this year I listened to the whole album once more, and after that I managed to listen to SIP and stand the first four tracks without skipping after a few bars!

Remember, I'm just one guy with an opinion! Smiley

Wow! Two people with completely diametric views who are able, via the powers of empathy, to not only understand the other's point of view, but to symphathise!

Micha, what say we start a new Mike Love thread where we politely see each others point of view for 38 pages?
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2013, 07:49:01 AM »

Micha, what say we start a new Mike Love thread where we politely see each others point of view for 38 pages?

Just the two of us? How sweet! Grin

It'll be tough for us to get to 38 pages that way, though...
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