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« on: September 08, 2013, 07:18:23 PM »

What songs were supposed to be on the Sunflower Album!  in the Made in California Box Set i found some songs that were supposed to be on the album like

1 Where is She
2 Back Home the 1970 Verison
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 07:31:15 PM »

Last time I checked, Slip On Through, This Whole World, Add Some Music To Your Day, Got To Know the Woman, Deirdre, It's About Time, Tears in the Morning, All I Wanna Do, Forever, Our Sweet Love, At My Window, and Cool Cool Water were supposed to be on Sunflower...unless the band changed it recently and didn't tell us!
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 07:32:00 PM »

I don't think "Where is She?" was necessarily supposed to be on the album. Perhaps if it was finished further, it would have been considered.

AGD's website lists this:

1. Sunflower (original)

Slip On Through, Walkin', Forever, Games Two Can Play, Add Some Music To Your Day, When Girls Get Together+, Our Sweet Love, Tears In The Morning (original version), Back Home, Fallin' In Love, I Just Got My Pay, Carnival, Susie Cincinnati, Good Time.

Although, as he goes on to say,  this was most likely a survey of what songs were available to them.

2. Add Some Music

Susie Cincinnati, Good Time, Our Sweet Love, Tears In The Morning, When Girls Get Together, Slip On Throughl, Add Some Music To Your Day, Take A Load Off Your Feet -This Whole World, I Just Got My Pay, At My Window, Fallin' In Love.

This was the the first "real" album, which was rejected and reworked into Sunflower.

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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2013, 03:32:02 PM »

2. Add Some Music

Susie Cincinnati, Good Time, Our Sweet Love, Tears In The Morning, When Girls Get Together, Slip On Throughl, Add Some Music To Your Day, Take A Load Off Your Feet -This Whole World, I Just Got My Pay, At My Window, Fallin' In Love.

This was the the first "real" album, which was rejected and reworked into Sunflower.
Interesting to note that, in one form or another, all of the songs that didn't make the cut ended up being released in the next 11 years anyway.  The band clearly thought about the songs enough to get them out there, which is more than you can say about a lot of their unreleased work around this time.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 03:39:32 PM »

What songs were supposed to be on the Sunflower Album!  in the Made in California Box Set i found some songs that were supposed to be on the album like

1 Where is She
2 Back Home the 1970 Verison

IMO Back Home (1970) doesn't fit that well on Sunflower, however it fits excellently in the 1974-76 period as an alternative to 15BO Back Home feat. Brian's worst vocal performance to make an album.

The song has this jammy country rock feeling to it which makes it suitable in the context of songs such as Barnyard Blues, River Song, Out In The Country, Carry Me Home and Hard Times.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 04:21:50 PM »

I thought it was interesting that the 1970 version of "Back Home" mentioned Sunflowers. I'm wondering if this came before or after the album title or if it influenced that title. I always thought the Sunflower title was one of their best in terms of the title fitting the contents of the album.
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 02:56:15 PM »

2. Add Some Music

Susie Cincinnati, Good Time, Our Sweet Love, Tears In The Morning, When Girls Get Together, Slip On Throughl, Add Some Music To Your Day, Take A Load Off Your Feet -This Whole World, I Just Got My Pay, At My Window, Fallin' In Love.

This was the the first "real" album, which was rejected and reworked into Sunflower.
Interesting to note that, in one form or another, all of the songs that didn't make the cut ended up being released in the next 11 years anyway.  The band clearly thought about the songs enough to get them out there, which is more than you can say about a lot of their unreleased work around this time.

It's also interesting to note that one of the only ones that didn't make it onto a studio album is "Fallin' In Love," in spite of being a significantly better song than "Susie Cincinnati," "When Girls Get Together," or "Take a Load Off Your Feet."
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 03:38:58 AM »

It's also interesting to note that one of the only ones that didn't make it onto a studio album is "Fallin' In Love," in spite of being a significantly better song than "Susie Cincinnati," "When Girls Get Together," or "Take a Load Off Your Feet."
Not for me. I'll even go further saying it's one of the most boring BBs-related songs I heard in my almost 3 years of fandom. The American Spring v-n is even worse. So I'm glad it didn't make into any studio album, full stop.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 12:12:23 PM »

It's also interesting to note that one of the only ones that didn't make it onto a studio album is "Fallin' In Love," in spite of being a significantly better song than "Susie Cincinnati," "When Girls Get Together," or "Take a Load Off Your Feet."
Not for me. I'll even go further saying it's one of the most boring BBs-related songs I heard in my almost 3 years of fandom. The American Spring v-n is even worse. So I'm glad it didn't make into any studio album, full stop.

Wow, really? Such different tastes and opinions on this board! Lady is without doubt one of my all-time favourite BB tracks! In fact, I'll go as far as admitting that if I listen to it in a certain frame of mind, the "love, in love, in love" fade often leaves me a little moist-eyed... It's one of those tracks I can listen to on repeat and never tire of. I think it would've been a fantastic addition to Sunflower, preferably in place of Tears... Or on Surf's Up in place of TALOYF.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2013, 01:29:25 PM »

Anyone acquainted with Rover's opinion on all things Dennis need not be surprised that she doesn't like Fallin' in Love.  LOL

*apologies if Rover is actually a "he". I have the impression that Rover is a "she" for some reason.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2013, 01:34:54 PM »

They certainly did have a LOT of good songs around Sunflower. Back Home (the lyric) is where the LP title comes from. A 2 LP set would have been ideal (had the Beach Boys been selling anything like they should have been).
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2013, 04:13:28 PM »

It's also interesting to note that one of the only ones that didn't make it onto a studio album is "Fallin' In Love," in spite of being a significantly better song than "Susie Cincinnati," "When Girls Get Together," or "Take a Load Off Your Feet."
Not for me. I'll even go further saying it's one of the most boring BBs-related songs I heard in my almost 3 years of fandom. The American Spring v-n is even worse. So I'm glad it didn't make into any studio album, full stop.

Wow, really? Such different tastes and opinions on this board! Lady is without doubt one of my all-time favourite BB tracks! In fact, I'll go as far as admitting that if I listen to it in a certain frame of mind, the "love, in love, in love" fade often leaves me a little moist-eyed... It's one of those tracks I can listen to on repeat and never tire of. I think it would've been a fantastic addition to Sunflower, preferably in place of Tears... Or on Surf's Up in place of TALOYF.

"Lady" took ages to grow on me. I still can't say I love it or anything, but I do like it. Maybe Ms.Rover just needs a couple more years to think it's okay, too (MAYBE!!!).
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 04:23:58 PM »

Lady is just like most of Dennis's post-Sunflower songs. Booooring, preeedictable, cliiiiiiiiiche.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2013, 04:33:46 PM »

IIIIIIIIIIIIIII don't know......I got mixed feelings about FIL.   I really really want to really really like the song, but there's a lot of weirdness in the arrangement.  The strings, while trying to be dramatic are somewhat obnoxious to my ears.  The Spaghetti Western guitar part is pretty cool though.  Dennis' vocal is great, and the song itself has a lot of potential.

Yeah.....no.......yeah........

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 04:52:16 PM »

Lady is just like most of Dennis's post-Sunflower songs. Booooring, preeedictable, cliiiiiiiiiche.


I think Dennis could have benfited by expanding his lyrical subject matter more often. Most of my favourite Denny tunes are the ones where he's singing about something other than how much he luuuurrrvves someone.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2013, 08:47:01 PM »

I love Dennis Wilson's Music because all of his songs relate to my Feelings towards my father! 
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2013, 09:19:23 PM »

I love Dennis Wilson's Music because all of his songs relate to my Feelings towards my father! 
Even All I Want To Do?
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2013, 09:31:28 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2013, 12:36:59 AM »

Lady is just like most of Dennis's post-Sunflower songs. Booooring, preeedictable, cliiiiiiiiiche.


I guess my taste is the opposite of yours. Lady is my favorite Dennis track, the string arrangement is gorgeous, and the "Landlocked" mix with no reverb on Dennis' first line is great. I can listen to it one time after another. When I listen to "Landlocked", I listen to Lady at least 3 times in a row.
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2013, 01:21:56 AM »

I love Dennis Wilson's Music because all of his songs relate to my Feelings towards my father! 

I'm sorry but this post reads like you want to have sex with your father.
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2013, 01:40:51 AM »

the dude is a joke.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2013, 01:53:16 AM »

Anybody who credits David Spade as "my favorite beach boy" doesn't belong here.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2013, 02:10:21 AM »

Take it easy on Surfer. Could be any number of reasons to explain his unique posting style but it seems the knee jerk on this board is to assume that unusual = troll.

At the end of the day he's clearly a fan and is just being honest about how the music makes him feel. It's not rocket science that the pain in Dennis' music is in part an expression of his feelings towards his father and Surfer is picking up on that.
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2013, 02:17:41 AM »

ML wasn't the sentimental sap, it was Dennis!

I really dig most of DW's material but songs such as FIL are too sappy for my taste. I can enjoy some of it, but FIL ain't one of them and I rarely play it. The added string intro for the 2009 release did little to help that  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2013, 02:52:41 AM »

I'm a sucker for the sappier lyrics in Beach Boys songs. I wouldn't even consider this sappy compared to some of Brian or Bruce's Sunflower era tunes.

And what a melody. It's a pretty conventional pop melody to my ears, much more than a lot of the sweeping, grandiose stuff he would go on to write. I'd take more Dennis pop gems like FIL over any of his CATP contributions, any day. That's not to say I don't love the more overblown stuff but I think when he kept it simple as he did with FIL, he could really nail it.

I like the elctronic drum beat thing too, reminds me of Sly & The Family Stone. I guess it's the same machine.

 
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