Dumb Angel true lossless files?

[soniclovenoize]

I recently acquired the Dumb Angel Rarities vol 2 boot in flac, and while it sounds great there's a 16k cut-off on most of the tracks, which seems to indicate they are lossy/mp3-sourced material.

Is this a flac transcode or did the compiler of this series actually use mp3-sourced material to compile the disc?  Does this boot actually exist in a true lossless medium? 

[Jason]

I'm pretty sure it exists in a lossless medium.

[humanoidboogie]

I suppose there is just one set of FLAC's doing the rounds because I've come across them too. Looks like it's sourced from mp3, or maybe ATRAC compression from MD.

Anyway, they are available in lossless because I've checked a few of my old CDR's and they were pukka.

[soniclovenoize]

I suppose there is just one set of FLAC's doing the rounds because I've come across them too. Looks like it's sourced from mp3, or maybe ATRAC compression from MD.

Anyway, they are available in lossless because I've checked a few of my old CDR's and they were pukka.

You should... um... upload that, son. 

[humanoidboogie]

I suppose there is just one set of FLAC's doing the rounds because I've come across them too. Looks like it's sourced from mp3, or maybe ATRAC compression from MD.

Anyway, they are available in lossless because I've checked a few of my old CDR's and they were pukka.

You should... um... upload that, son. 

I'll see what I can do. Unfortunately I could only find a couple of them... I was actually thinking of putting together a similar set from scratch using better, upgraded sources. I reckon this will take forever, though.

[soniclovenoize]

OK to be honest, at this point I am only looking for certain tracks on vol two. 

So, if you'd be willing to rip just those sole tracks for me, shoot me a PM. 

Thanks! 

[runnersdialzero]

If you got these from a certain site owned by a certain man who is pink, he has a really nasty habit of transcoding sh*t. Has it in lossless, "remasters" in MP3 (lololol), and then converts back to lossless. Someone really needs to stop him because it's really dirtying the pool.

[pixletwin]

Someone should help sonic. He is a really cool guy with a great blog.   

[Dave Modny]

If you got these from a certain site owned by a certain man who is pink, he has a really nasty habit of transcoding sh*t. Has it in lossless, "remasters" in MP3 (lololol), and then converts back to lossless. Someone really needs to stop him because it's really dirtying the pool.

Hearing that, I'm actually impressed that he took the Sirius/XM concert recording that I made, put it on his site, and left it "as-is"...lol. Files are 100% the same as my originals.

I'm probably even happier he didn't "remaster, de-hum and re-pitch" it.


(Good guy still)

[runnersdialzero]

Wouldn't doubt that he's nice considering all he's posted, but holy sh*t, I can't believe how many things I grabbed from there that turned out to actually be lossy. They've now spread to other sites, it's a really bad situation in terms of keeping these recordings properly preserved.

[Dave Modny]

Wouldn't doubt that he's nice considering all he's posted, but holy sh*t, I can't believe how many things I grabbed from there that turned out to actually be lossy. They've now spread to other sites, it's a really bad situation in terms of keeping these recordings properly preserved.

I agree. Nothing worse than polluting the pool.

(Except perhaps...some rogue, Japanese site taking the recording and selling it for an outrageous price. That happened, too.).

[soniclovenoize]

If you got these from a certain site owned by a certain man who is pink, he has a really nasty habit of transcoding sh*t. Has it in lossless, "remasters" in MP3 (lololol), and then converts back to lossless. Someone really needs to stop him because it's really dirtying the pool.

Hmmm, I did not. 

But that makes sense, I've seen other references to the boot having lossy artifacts.  Maybe thats exactly what he did, take a lossless source and remaster it to a mp3. 

So if that is the case, is his source the common Landlocked bootlegs we already have? 

[Amazing Larry]

If you got these from a certain site owned by a certain man who is pink, he has a really nasty habit of transcoding sh*t. Has it in lossless, "remasters" in MP3 (lololol), and then converts back to lossless. Someone really needs to stop him because it's really dirtying the pool.

This pink man?

[pixletwin]

What about this Pink Man?

[Alex]

Flac snobs!!!! 

[runnersdialzero]

Flac snobs!!!! 

Pretty hilarious wanting to preserve music in the best quality that's out there, innit?

[humanoidboogie]

Yeah, that's were I got them as well. From the Pink Man. I guess all of the stuff he puts up is lossy, but it's a nice gesture. To make the stuff available, that is.

I've come across his "remasters" on other sites as well, so he really should stop doing whatever he does.

Exactly what tracks are you looking for? Maybe I have them on other boots...

[soniclovenoize]

Exactly what tracks are you looking for? Maybe I have them on other boots...

A kind anonymous soul on this board already PM'd me and helped me out, thank you anyways.   

[shangaijoeBB]

soniclovenoize, I assume you're cooking up a new album for your blog (which im' a big fan of btw)? Any teasers? 

[soniclovenoize]

soniclovenoize, I assume you're cooking up a new album for your blog (which im' a big fan of btw)? Any teasers? 

Landlocked and A/C. 

[pixletwin]

soniclovenoize, I assume you're cooking up a new album for your blog (which im' a big fan of btw)? Any teasers? 

Landlocked and A/C. 

Makes me feel like dancing! 

[Mikie]

Flac snobs!!!! 

Pretty hilarious wanting to preserve music in the best quality that's out there, innit?

I have many many FLAC files and many Mp3 320's and 256's. To these ears, I can't tell the difference. And If I convert 'em to .wav, it dudn't make any difference anyway.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

Flac snobs!!!! 

Pretty hilarious wanting to preserve music in the best quality that's out there, innit?

I have many many FLAC files and many Mp3 320's and 256's. To these ears, I can't tell the difference. And If I convert 'em to .wav, it dudn't make any difference anyway.

Convert it to a .wav ain't gonna improve the quality [that would be awesome though]

[Dave Modny]

Flac snobs!!!! 

Pretty hilarious wanting to preserve music in the best quality that's out there, innit?

I have many many FLAC files and many Mp3 320's and 256's. To these ears, I can't tell the difference. And If I convert 'em to .wav, it dudn't make any difference anyway.

Hi Mikie,

I don't think it's so much a matter of whether or not someone can detect a difference with the naked ear (so to speak), but rather, the notion that the pool has now been forever polluted. That is, once people start transcoding things, who's to say this won't happen several times within the lineage of something and with god-knows-what bitrates or encoders. And, that will definitely be noticeable to the naked ear. Even more so, if someone takes it upon his or herself to "remaster" something, and throw it back into the circulating pool as well, now we're getting even further and further away from the original. All this is fine and dandy if someone simply wants to do it for their own personal use (IPods, etc), but all it takes is one person to convert it back to FLAC and upload it somewhere, with those files then being propagated like wildfire. There could be 15 transcodes within, even though the resulting file is being moved around as a "FLAC." It's like playing "telephone" with digital files....lol.

And that's the nice thing about having a virgin FLAC file with known and verifiable lineage (i.e. MD5 files, etc.). In the case of a ripped CD, it's a pristine clone of the original (assuming correct offsets, etc.). Or, in the case of a simple (preferably lossless) recording, an unscathed, pure original. It can stay that way forever.

[sockittome]

I saw a demonstration online (I think it was on the Hoffman board)  where the audio information from an mp3 file was subtracted from a wav file of the same song, and what was left was extremely minimal and for the most part, inaudible.  Thoughts, anyone?