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im a lil' crazy! - but i'd like a BB/BW 'gregorian chant' album
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its probably a strange concept....but stuff like:
our prayer
til I die
surfs up
love and mercy
time to get alone
river song
hold on dear brother
their hearts were full of spring
lonely sea
where I belong
god only knows
break away
endless possibilities......... especially when I'm tired like this.....
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Eh?!
The central, defining, point of Gregorian chant... the thing that *makes* it Gregorian chant, that distinguishes it from all other forms of a capella vocal liturgical music... is that it's monophonic. As in, no counterpoint, no harmony, just a single melody sung in unison.
How on earth could *any* of those songs work without any counterpoint or harmony? Why would anyone want that?!
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well I did say I was 'tired'......
but we just get the big fella 'bw' on arranging and add some harmonies.......
could be 'Smile' on a new level.......
or Not....
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But if you add harmonies -- or arrange it at all -- it's not Gregorian chant!
Gregorian chant is plainsong -- so called because it has no harmonies, no arrangement, just unadorned voice singing of a single melody.
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Re: im a lil' crazy! - but i'd like a BB/BW 'gregorian chant' album
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Do you mean you want an A Capella album?
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Quote from: AndrewHickey on July 14, 2013, 12:48:03 PM
Eh?!
The central, defining, point of Gregorian chant... the thing that *makes* it Gregorian chant, that distinguishes it from all other forms of a capella vocal liturgical music... is that it's monophonic. As in, no counterpoint, no harmony, just a single melody sung in unison.
How on earth could *any* of those songs work without any counterpoint or harmony? Why would anyone want that?!
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July 14, 2013, 01:15:06 PM »
haha yeah Andrew I see what you mean, but yes Bubbly, that's probably a better way of explaining it....
with that great Gregorian reverb sound or church hall effect.....
ok.... perhaps I should go to sleep...... i'll have changed my mind by tomorrow perhaps
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Re: im a lil' crazy! - but i'd like a BB/BW 'gregorian chant' album
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Quote from: Bubbly Waves on July 14, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Do you mean you want an A Capella album?
Why would anyone want a nude BBs album, especially now?
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Re: im a lil' crazy! - but i'd like a BB/BW 'gregorian chant' album
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Quote from: bgas on July 14, 2013, 01:27:22 PM
Quote from: Bubbly Waves on July 14, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Do you mean you want an A Capella album?
Why would anyone want a nude BBs album, especially now?
I don't know, I was just trying to figure out what he wanted.
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haha....ok....... bad idea....... edit edit edit.......
and they thought Brian had crazy ideas...... a nude BB album sounds kinda 'scary'....... might leave it to the music makers to make music....
and ill just shut up and listen......
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I think a Beach Boys album of sacred music would have been heavenly, no pun intended. Starting off with some plainsong, then into some Josquin, some Tallis, Palestrina, maybe a cheeky bit of Byrd. In their prime, the BB's could have done a wonderful job. You always hear these things performed by big choirs, hearing them with just the double tracking would have given any such pieces a real intimacy.
Sacred renaissance music is my favourite type of music, and Thomas Tallis is my
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favourite composer, hands down. But I would probably never have discovered him had it not been for Smile. Ditto for 20's jazz and Baroque music. What a springboard album that was for me. Thanks Brian!
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Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on July 14, 2013, 01:59:05 PM
I think a Beach Boys album of sacred music would have been heavenly, no pun intended.
I agree. For a group whose trademark was their vocal harmony, I was always surprised that The Beach Boys didn't do more a capella stuff. And, the ones they did - "Auld Lang Syne", "Our Prayer", "A Young man Is Gone/There Hearts Were Full Of Spring", "And Your Dreams Come True", even "You're Welcome" - are rather brief. Sacred music would've been great; their version of "The Lord's Prayer" is very inspirational. I'm still waiting for that WELL ROUNDED Christmas album. 2014? The 50th anniversary of the first Christmas album...
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Re: im a lil' crazy! - but i'd like a BB/BW 'gregorian chant' album
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Hey you forgot the ending of " Wind Chimes "....... there's chanting on that too.... granted you have to really listen for it.....
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Quote from: Beckgtr09 on July 14, 2013, 05:17:38 PM
Hey you forgot the ending of " Wind Chimes "....... there's chanting on that too.... granted you have to really listen for it.....
One of the most beautiful moments in BW/BB history. But, again, a little brief...
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Re: im a lil' crazy! - but i'd like a BB/BW 'gregorian chant' album
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Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on July 14, 2013, 01:59:05 PM
I think a Beach Boys album of sacred music would have been heavenly, no pun intended. Starting off with some plainsong, then into some Josquin, some Tallis, Palestrina, maybe a cheeky bit of Byrd. In their prime, the BB's could have done a wonderful job. You always hear these things performed by big choirs, hearing them with just the double tracking would have given any such pieces a real intimacy.
Sacred renaissance music is my favourite type of music, and Thomas Tallis is my
all time
favourite composer, hands down. But I would probably never have discovered him had it not been for Smile. Ditto for 20's jazz and Baroque music. What a springboard album that was for me. Thanks Brian!
This is actually a really tantalizing idea. Beach Boys Spem in Alium...oh my.
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Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on July 14, 2013, 01:59:05 PM
I think a Beach Boys album of sacred music would have been heavenly, no pun intended. Starting off with some plainsong, then into some Josquin, some Tallis, Palestrina, maybe a cheeky bit of Byrd. In their prime, the BB's could have done a wonderful job. You always hear these things performed by big choirs, hearing them with just the double tracking would have given any such pieces a real intimacy.
Sacred renaissance music is my favourite type of music, and Thomas Tallis is my
all time
favourite composer, hands down. But I would probably never have discovered him had it not been for Smile. Ditto for 20's jazz and Baroque music. What a springboard album that was for me. Thanks Brian!
Wasn't that your cover of Surf's Up that reflected much of what you say? My favourite Surf's Up cover if all!
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Quote from: John Manning on July 14, 2013, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on July 14, 2013, 01:59:05 PM
I think a Beach Boys album of sacred music would have been heavenly, no pun intended. Starting off with some plainsong, then into some Josquin, some Tallis, Palestrina, maybe a cheeky bit of Byrd. In their prime, the BB's could have done a wonderful job. You always hear these things performed by big choirs, hearing them with just the double tracking would have given any such pieces a real intimacy.
Sacred renaissance music is my favourite type of music, and Thomas Tallis is my
all time
favourite composer, hands down. But I would probably never have discovered him had it not been for Smile. Ditto for 20's jazz and Baroque music. What a springboard album that was for me. Thanks Brian!
Wasn't that your cover of Surf's Up that reflected much of what you say? My favourite Surf's Up cover if all!
Thanks John! Quite a few people have said that's their favourite SU cover, so I must have done something right for once.
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Recorded in the Minster?
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I wish. There's no convolution reverb in the world that can touch the real thing!
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Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on July 14, 2013, 01:59:05 PM
I think a Beach Boys album of sacred music would have been heavenly, no pun intended.
Yep, could have been extremely cool. The Lord's Prayer is incredible! Or just an album of Beach Boys classics recorded live in their prime with great, natural church hall reverb. I posted this video a while ago of me and the guys in a group I'm in singing California Girls in a church. Perhaps bordering on blasphemy, I'm wondering if this is a first for that song being sung in a church?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXt89wgzBT4
More fittingly, we also began singin God Only Knows but sadly our organ player couldn't remember the chords...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mylGTRTZErA
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Yes, I saw this before. You guys nailed it. Again, no pun intended.
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Quote from: (Stephen Newcombe) on July 15, 2013, 12:41:04 AM
Yes, I saw this before. You guys nailed it. Again, no pun intended.
Thanks Stephen. Glad you like it - trying to do justice to those iconic harmonies is a heavy cross to bear.
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Quote from: AndrewHickey on July 14, 2013, 12:48:03 PM
The central, defining, point of Gregorian chant... the thing that *makes* it Gregorian chant, that distinguishes it from all other forms of a capella vocal liturgical music... is that it's monophonic.
As in, no counterpoint, no harmony, just a single melody sung in unison
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Really? That's very interesting, earlier I thought Gregorian chant can be everything sung like a church music, has it multi-layered harmonies or no. Thanks for educative info, Mr. Hickey!
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Maybe they could release an album that follows the progression of music that Brian describes in "That Same Song," starting with a gregorian chant in the first track, building towards rock and roll and then taking it "one more mile" at the end.
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Quote from: AndrewHickey on July 14, 2013, 12:48:03 PM
Eh?!
The central, defining, point of Gregorian chant... the thing that *makes* it Gregorian chant, that distinguishes it from all other forms of a capella vocal liturgical music... is that it's monophonic. As in, no counterpoint, no harmony, just a single melody sung in unison.
How on earth could *any* of those songs work without any counterpoint or harmony? Why would anyone want that?!
Andrew - having spent 12 years in Catholic school, (and I survived!
- years of detention! ) much time was devoted to Gregorian chant. What I can't figure is how the 5 lined, 4 spaced modern music staff with its range of tones, could be harmonized with the shorter music toned range of Gregorian chant. It is a more "confined" system, with 4 lines and 3 spaces. I may have described it badly, and apologize, but can't imagine that the BB music could be contorted into a Gregorian mode. Maybe some music expert can help. Thanks!
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