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« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2013, 06:30:49 AM »

Still think it's worth bearing in mind that 20 or so live tracks left off does add up to another CD's worth of material. If the 2CD takes off and sells well, I can't see Mike wanting to just sit on that untapped income stream!  That, or a bonus incentive to sell more copies via Readers Digest, iTunes, WalMart, BetterBuy, QVC or whatever…

Reading what folk have put here, there'd be a strong market – among fans at least – for many of the omitted tracks.
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« Reply #101 on: April 11, 2013, 07:00:15 AM »

Hopefully we'll see a Standard 2-CD version and a Deluxe 3-CD mini box set. We can dream, right?
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« Reply #102 on: April 11, 2013, 08:00:51 AM »

As it was suggested that the MiC box set might include live tracks it would seem entirely possible that a couple of songs not included here might be used for that.
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« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2013, 08:26:56 AM »

I'm sorta disappointed that the Cal Sag version of "All This Is That" isn't on this set.  That was beautiful.  Maybe they are holding that over for the box set?
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« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2013, 09:02:53 AM »

I'm sorta disappointed that the Cal Sag version of "All This Is That" isn't on this set.  That was beautiful.  Maybe they are holding that over for the box set?

Well, we don't know that it isn't -- we don't know what performances are on the CD yet, unless I'm missing something. But I doubt it'll be on the box -- it is, after all, a Beach Boys box set, not a "random people who happen to share genes with the Beach Boys" set...
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« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2013, 09:04:07 AM »

Yeah I would be very VERY surprised to see Cal Saga on any of these releases.
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« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2013, 09:39:45 AM »

That's what The Beach Boys have done with all their live albums so far come to think of it. In Concert '73 was culled from 3 or 4 shows, wadinit?


Well, that's common practice in the business for like... forever, no matter what artist.
Like Woodstock, Hendrix- Band of Gypsys, The Who - Live At Leeds, Johnny Cash - At San Quentin, Beach Boys-Live in London, The Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East, James Brown - Say It Live & Loud: Live In Dallas 8.26.68, Queen - Live At Wembley '86, Simon & Garfunkel - Live In Central Park, Live Aid, Bruce Springsteen - Live In New York City, the list goes on and on.

They do cherrypick if there is more than one show, give you that.
It's very common that most live albums are taken from multiple shows and studio enhancements are usually done on most live albums too, whether it's re-doing entire parts or just editing.  FWIW - Allman Brothers at Fillmore East taken from at least 3-4 shows over a couple of days.  Band Of Gypsies was multiple shows.  Live At Leeds was from one show but on the expanded reissues they had to re-do a lot of vocal parts in the studio. 
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« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2013, 10:20:41 AM »

That's what The Beach Boys have done with all their live albums so far come to think of it. In Concert '73 was culled from 3 or 4 shows, wadinit?


Well, that's common practice in the business for like... forever, no matter what artist.
Like Woodstock, Hendrix- Band of Gypsys, The Who - Live At Leeds, Johnny Cash - At San Quentin, Beach Boys-Live in London, The Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East, James Brown - Say It Live & Loud: Live In Dallas 8.26.68, Queen - Live At Wembley '86, Simon & Garfunkel - Live In Central Park, Live Aid, Bruce Springsteen - Live In New York City, the list goes on and on.

They do cherrypick if there is more than one show, give you that.
It's very common that most live albums are taken from multiple shows and studio enhancements are usually done on most live albums too, whether it's re-doing entire parts or just editing.  FWIW - Allman Brothers at Fillmore East taken from at least 3-4 shows over a couple of days.  Band Of Gypsies was multiple shows.  Live At Leeds was from one show but on the expanded reissues they had to re-do a lot of vocal parts in the studio. 
Yeah, I said that. The Hendrix BOG was two shows, one night. Yes, they do sweetening. Reportedly, FRAMPTOM COMES ALIVE was seriously sweetened.
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« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2013, 11:18:19 AM »

I love Dance Dance Dance, but to be honest, the song probably wasn't performed much for a reason...it didn't work too well with such a large band.  The recordings I've heard kind of lacked energy and Mike's vocal seemed lost in the mix of so many instruments.  Dance Dance Dance and It's OK are two songs that sound MUCH better with Mike & Bruce's smaller band.

That said, Rock And Roll Music sounds GREAT with a small band or a large production such as this one.  Always a highlight for me at all the live shows I've been to where it was performed.
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« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2013, 12:05:46 PM »

Live At Leeds was from one show but on the expanded reissues they had to re-do a lot of vocal parts in the studio.

That's interesting. One of the greatest live albums ever made even better. Some would argue with touching up the live albums in the studio with overdubbing is cheating, but look at the Beach Boys '64 concert album. Some may have suspected, but most didn't know it was "cleaned up" in the studio with overdubbing.
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« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2013, 12:14:18 PM »

I see the live CD set is listed at Amazon Uk as an import.

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« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2013, 12:55:28 PM »

Live At Leeds was from one show but on the expanded reissues they had to re-do a lot of vocal parts in the studio.

That's interesting. One of the greatest live albums ever made even better. Some would argue with touching up the live albums in the studio with overdubbing is cheating, but look at the Beach Boys '64 concert album. Some may have suspected, but most didn't know it was "cleaned up" in the studio with overdubbing.
I personally have no problem with it.  They are creating a live album that people will listen to forever, so they want it right.  What I hate is when things are needlessly cut or edited down.  I'm also not a fan of fake crowds being added.  I do however, enjoy between song banter as it happened at the show. 
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« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2013, 01:00:39 PM »

That's what The Beach Boys have done with all their live albums so far come to think of it. In Concert '73 was culled from 3 or 4 shows, wadinit?


Well, that's common practice in the business for like... forever, no matter what artist.
Like Woodstock, Hendrix- Band of Gypsys, The Who - Live At Leeds, Johnny Cash - At San Quentin, Beach Boys-Live in London, The Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East, James Brown - Say It Live & Loud: Live In Dallas 8.26.68, Queen - Live At Wembley '86, Simon & Garfunkel - Live In Central Park, Live Aid, Bruce Springsteen - Live In New York City, the list goes on and on.

They do cherrypick if there is more than one show, give you that.



I haven't said that each and every live album is culled together from different shows. But it is and always was common practice to do so. Nothing special about that.
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« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2013, 01:13:44 PM »

That's what The Beach Boys have done with all their live albums so far come to think of it. In Concert '73 was culled from 3 or 4 shows, wadinit?
Let's hope that's the case here. I totally expect Brian's vocals will  be sweetened.


Well, that's common practice in the business for like... forever, no matter what artist.
Like Woodstock, Hendrix- Band of Gypsys, The Who - Live At Leeds, Johnny Cash - At San Quentin, Beach Boys-Live in London, The Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East, James Brown - Say It Live & Loud: Live In Dallas 8.26.68, Queen - Live At Wembley '86, Simon & Garfunkel - Live In Central Park, Live Aid, Bruce Springsteen - Live In New York City, the list goes on and on.

They do cherrypick if there is more than one show, give you that.


I haven't said that each and every live album is culled together from different shows. But it is and always was common practice to do so. Nothing special about that.
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« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2013, 02:12:39 PM »

I see the live CD set is listed at Amazon Uk as an import.

Do we have to take the colonies back in hand?

Hey John, don't make us Americans whup you British peebles AGAIN!

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Last time you tried it we set fire to the White House. Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough :-p
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« Reply #115 on: April 11, 2013, 02:39:54 PM »

Well I mean if you think about it, The Beach Boys haven't really had a proper live album since 1973, which is surprising considering how popular they are as a touring entity.  Bascally, Beach Boys live albums are not common practice.

Knebworth.
Also Songs From Here & Back.
And while the Beach Boys haven't released any more live albums until now other than those, remember that for much of that time the touring Beach Boys haven't had a license to record under that name. Brian's released two live albums and four live DVDs in the last fifteen years, and Al had his Live In Las Vegas album.

Neither Knebworth or the Songs from Here and Back album are considered part of the official Beach Boys canon.  Songs from Here and Back was an exclusive for Hallmark stores while Knebworth was pretty much nothing more than a soundtrack from the Eagle Rock's video release.  Not to mention both were released long after the actual shows were recorded.
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« Reply #116 on: April 11, 2013, 02:48:50 PM »

Neither Knebworth or the Songs from Here and Back album are considered part of the official Beach Boys canon.

By whom? I must have missed the Council Of Hawthorne in which they were declared deuterocanonical and the NASCAR CD was denounced as heresy...

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  Songs from Here and Back was an exclusive for Hallmark stores while Knebworth was pretty much nothing more than a soundtrack from the Eagle Rock's video release.

Well, the Knebworth CD came out several months before the DVD did, but even if it hadn't, none of those points stop them from being Beach Boys live albums...
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« Reply #117 on: April 11, 2013, 02:53:06 PM »


Neither Knebworth or the Songs from Here and Back album are considered part of the official Beach Boys canon.  Songs from Here and Back was an exclusive for Hallmark stores while Knebworth was pretty much nothing more than a soundtrack from the Eagle Rock's video release.  Not to mention both were released long after the actual shows were recorded.

Thanks for the info. I will cast them to the flames this instant. Smiley
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« Reply #118 on: April 11, 2013, 04:46:21 PM »

No love for "Betsy".  Tongue
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« Reply #119 on: April 11, 2013, 05:03:59 PM »

No love for "Betsy".  Tongue

Actually, Scott, given the choice I'd far rather have your version of Let Him Run Wild on there -- I wasn't lucky enough to hear it last year but in 2008 it was the highlight of the show. You do a wonderful job on that one.
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« Reply #120 on: April 11, 2013, 05:07:14 PM »

No love for "Betsy".  Tongue

I think most everybody here would love to see all 61 songs performed on the tour on CD! For that matter, throw on the songs that were rehearsed such as "Surf's Up"..... Smiley
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« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2013, 05:12:08 PM »

No love for "Betsy".  Tongue
It was a pleasant surprise last year that you guys included Betsy in the setlist. That was one thing that was so cool last year is that you performed many songs that we rarely, if ever hear in concert. You did justice to the song and to Brian's original vocal. Thanks for the care that you take with all of the arrangements.
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« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2013, 05:15:34 PM »

No love for "Betsy".  Tongue

You certainly do a cracking rendition of that song. Hopefully it will be in the setlist again this year at the appropriate venues.
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« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2013, 06:02:17 PM »

Scott, I saw you perform "Betsy" in either Maine or Boston.  Fantastic performance!!
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« Reply #124 on: April 11, 2013, 06:12:15 PM »

No Dance Dance Dance - FAIL, Capitol, you lost a customer!

That one songs a deal breaker for you? Tough customer!

Yeah, but it's one of my favorite songs, and I'm already annoyed they didn't play it in Berlin and left it off from the live DVD. I mean, it was a #8 hit, and they included low charting clunkers like Marcella and Sail On, Sailor. Of course, charting is no reason to leave a good song off, but it is an original that rocks much better than the Chuck Berry cover R'n'R music, doesn't it? I wonder what they have against this one of my top 3 favorites?  Embarrassed (the others being Rhonda and Here Today.)



Hey Micha, DDD is one of my favourites too!  They didn't play it in Perth either. I don't mind it not being on the live album though, I love what I've already got, it's such a rockin' song, they might not have had the energy for it Wink  I don't think Marcella and SOS are clunkers though,  I love SOS but RnR music should be wiped off the face of the earth.

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