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« Reply #75 on: March 30, 2013, 11:29:38 AM »

It's a wonder to me how the question of which album is the most polarizing is ever asked. It's very apparent that it's Smiley and LY. Also, i think the Smiley = Brian throwing in the towel argument is crap. Why? Just because of what preceded it? There seems to be way more ideas, effort, creativity, nuance, and deliberate production and stylistic choices on Smiley than on Wild Honey. But Wild Honey is almost uniformly lauded amongst those in the know. Why? Because it's straightforward pop songs, and Smiley is "weird"? Because it's a "return to form" (how? it's not), and Smiley is a "compromised" effort simply because they're rerecordings of big scale productions (which isn't even entirely the case because people tend to forget how much of Smile is pretty minimal)? It's just a different bag altogether, i don't see why it has to be a qualitative thing. As RDZ said, listen to the UM of the Smiley sessions. Hell, just listen to the album. How does that sound like a defeated man who no longer cares? I would love it if apathy ever produced a fraction of the inventiveness that is running all throughout Smiley Smile. You don't put together an album with such peculiar and imaginative arrangements, stellar vocal arranging and performances, and such a well crafted overall mood when you don't give a sh*t and are just going through the motions or taking the easy way out.
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« Reply #76 on: March 30, 2013, 12:40:25 PM »



I'm not sure why you'd be here, of all places, and say Smile isn't "genius" (whatever that means/means to you), but hay. Agree to disagree, I guess.

Nobody said that.

The previous poster commented that he felt Smiley Smile and Love You showed Brian as a genius which I disagree with.

Nothing to do with Smile which urinates all over Smiley Smile from a great height.
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« Reply #77 on: March 30, 2013, 01:09:21 PM »


I'm not sure why you'd be here, of all places, and say Smile isn't "genius" (whatever that means/means to you), but hay. Agree to disagree, I guess.
Nobody said that.

The previous poster commented that he felt Smiley Smile and Love You showed Brian as a genius which I disagree with.

Nothing to do with Smile which urinates all over Smiley Smile from a great height.
There is a difference between being a genius and being "gifted."

Whatever "gift" you have is of little use, unless you go and work hard at it.  I think Brian is a "gifted" individual who worked, often tirelessly, and got a very good result. 

Raw intelligence without diligence gets you nowhere.

And, Smiley Smile, was, in my opinion, very avant-grade, and still holds "classic" status, in my, and many others' books who bought it upon release, notwithstanding the recent sessions release.
 
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« Reply #78 on: March 30, 2013, 01:12:40 PM »



I'm not sure why you'd be here, of all places, and say Smile isn't "genius" (whatever that means/means to you), but hay. Agree to disagree, I guess.

Nobody said that.

The previous poster commented that he felt Smiley Smile and Love You showed Brian as a genius which I disagree with.

Nothing to do with Smile which urinates all over Smiley Smile from a great height.
in that case that's one golden shower I actually like lol
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« Reply #79 on: March 30, 2013, 02:47:56 PM »

Golden showers?

Gee, I hope there's some news soon…:(
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« Reply #80 on: March 30, 2013, 02:51:08 PM »



I'm not sure why you'd be here, of all places, and say Smile isn't "genius" (whatever that means/means to you), but hay. Agree to disagree, I guess.

Nobody said that.

The previous poster commented that he felt Smiley Smile and Love You showed Brian as a genius which I disagree with.

Nothing to do with Smile which urinates all over Smiley Smile from a great height.
Please illustrate. LOL
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« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2013, 02:53:49 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2013, 04:00:27 PM »

I very much miss the angry, bitter, drunken voice and piano version of "Caroline No" that Brian would definitely have recorded if he'd given up on Pet Sounds partway through the sessions and done something else instead.
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« Reply #83 on: March 30, 2013, 05:59:14 PM »

It's a wonder to me how the question of which album is the most polarizing is ever asked. It's very apparent that it's Smiley and LY. Also, i think the Smiley = Brian throwing in the towel argument is crap. Why? Just because of what preceded it? There seems to be way more ideas, effort, creativity, nuance, and deliberate production and stylistic choices on Smiley than on Wild Honey. But Wild Honey is almost uniformly lauded amongst those in the know. Why? Because it's straightforward pop songs, and Smiley is "weird"? Because it's a "return to form" (how? it's not), and Smiley is a "compromised" effort simply because they're rerecordings of big scale productions (which isn't even entirely the case because people tend to forget how much of Smile is pretty minimal)? It's just a different bag altogether, i don't see why it has to be a qualitative thing. As RDZ said, listen to the UM of the Smiley sessions. Hell, just listen to the album. How does that sound like a defeated man who no longer cares? I would love it if apathy ever produced a fraction of the inventiveness that is running all throughout Smiley Smile. You don't put together an album with such peculiar and imaginative arrangements, stellar vocal arranging and performances, and such a well crafted overall mood when you don't give a sh*t and are just going through the motions or taking the easy way out.

Agreed.
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« Reply #84 on: March 30, 2013, 06:30:47 PM »

Also agree.
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« Reply #85 on: March 30, 2013, 06:40:03 PM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Oh by all means, go right ahead then.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #86 on: March 30, 2013, 08:01:46 PM »

I very much miss the angry, bitter, drunken voice and piano version of "Caroline No" that Brian would definitely have recorded if he'd given up on Pet Sounds partway through the sessions and done something else instead.

Man, as much as I'm really in awe of fan covers of the entire Pet Sounds album and how close many of them are to the real thing, I'm hoping that someday a fan or so will veer off that sort of path and make Pet Sounds ala Smiley Smile (Pet Sounds ala Love You would be great too!).

On the opposite side of the spectrum someone doing the Love You album in the manner of mid 60's Brian Wilson production would be pretty groovy too!

Do You Like Worms and Holidays are definitely tracks I could see getting Smiley Smile versions in an alternate universe, they both fit the mood of the album.
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« Reply #87 on: March 30, 2013, 08:12:26 PM »

I can't imagine the world without Smiley Smile !
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« Reply #88 on: March 30, 2013, 08:55:46 PM »

It would be a lot less mellow
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« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2013, 04:32:19 AM »

I prefer the SS Wind Chimes and V-T to any SMiLE-era version of them. The chorus to Gettin' Hungry would need some kind of Motown production, and the song would be great. In general I like Smiley Smile, I only always skip GV because it just sounds out of place.

I want "THE SMiLE" of 1967, but Smiley Smile is more than a great consolation prize.

You might be in for a disappointment regarding "THE SMiLE" of 1967 - at the time the cantina version of H&V was done, Brian recorded the Rock Me Henry Wonderful. What if that had appeared on "THE SMiLE of 1967"?

On the opposite side of the spectrum someone doing the Love You album in the manner of mid 60's Brian Wilson production would be pretty groovy too!

I think I'd prefer that to the original. I'd even buy it!
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« Reply #90 on: March 31, 2013, 04:42:29 AM »

I LOVE Rock Me Henry!
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« Reply #91 on: March 31, 2013, 04:52:59 AM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the stupidest post ever!

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« Reply #92 on: March 31, 2013, 06:32:50 AM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the stupidest post ever!



Exactly. You'd need at least 3 hours to produce your own Smiley Smile album.
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« Reply #93 on: March 31, 2013, 06:57:26 AM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the stupidest post ever!


LOL High Five LOL w00t! LOL

Exactly. You'd need at least 3 hours to produce your own Smiley Smile album.
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« Reply #94 on: March 31, 2013, 06:59:11 AM »

Aww, you guys.......
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« Reply #95 on: March 31, 2013, 07:49:16 AM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the stupidest post ever!


LOL High Five LOL w00t! LOL

Exactly. You'd need at least 3 hours to produce your own Smiley Smile album.

Not quite got the hang of quoting AuldSurfaDood?
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« Reply #96 on: March 31, 2013, 08:26:49 AM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the stupidest post ever!


LOL High Five LOL w00t! LOL

Exactly. You'd need at least 3 hours to produce your own Smiley Smile album.

Not quite got the hang of quoting AuldSurfaDood?
Uh, what we got here is an agdster wannabe.
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« Reply #97 on: March 31, 2013, 10:43:26 AM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the stupidest post ever!



Exactly. You'd need at least 3 hours to produce your own Smiley Smile album.

3 hours and 45 minutes.  30 minutes to score the weed, 15 minutes to roll a bunch of joints, and 3 hours to record the music.
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« Reply #98 on: March 31, 2013, 10:45:37 AM »

I would miss absolutely nothing, considering that any one of us could probably produce an album of equal or better quality in about two hours with a four track cassette recorder.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the stupidest post ever!


LOL High Five LOL w00t! LOL

Exactly. You'd need at least 3 hours to produce your own Smiley Smile album.

Not quite got the hang of quoting AuldSurfaDood?
Uh, what we got here is an agdster wannabe.

I disagree, I was just poking fun at your quote mess-up and lampooning the idiosyncratic way in which you spell the names Mike and Bruce. There is no danger of me flying off the handle and calling you names or correcting people on the minutia of Beach Boys history.
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« Reply #99 on: March 31, 2013, 11:12:15 AM »

News, news,
The way to diffuse…
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