The Beach Boys: Stamos, Love, Johnston

[joshferrell]

He's talking about the shirt, right?

yeah that's it..the shirt...yeah. cough cough.

[Rocky Raccoon]

I'm sure there'll be plenty of good shows to come. With special guests. Good seats still available.

Now that I would actually see.

[Cabinessenceking]

He's certainly a true fan. A real fan. A loyal fan. He loves the band and the music. And he just happens to occasionally be a jackass on stage. Again, everyone here bitching about him would LOVE to have such an opportunity fall in his or her lap.

Your first points may be true. Your last one is positively false, and I don't understand why some folks here repeat it over and over. Since when does liking a band mean you want to be a rock star onstage with them? I frankly couldn't imagine anything more unpleasant.

Never say never.

We all know you praise The Luhvster like the Inca worshiped the sun. That's all good, but such fan loyalty doesn't have to extend to the utterly daft decision of letting a less-than-great actor join the band onstage. Even less so for the decision to STILL let him onstage after 20+ years. Perhaps if they let him go he might actually do, ya'know, some acting?
How is this Stamos guy famous? who the mighty f*** is John Stamos really? some guy from Full House? I've heard hardly anything but condemnation for that show for many years. How can some minor actor from the 80's still be riding that wave (No Beach Boys pun intended)?

[EgoHanger1966]

He's certainly a true fan. A real fan. A loyal fan. He loves the band and the music. And he just happens to occasionally be a jackass on stage. Again, everyone here bitching about him would LOVE to have such an opportunity fall in his or her lap.

Your first points may be true. Your last one is positively false, and I don't understand why some folks here repeat it over and over. Since when does liking a band mean you want to be a rock star onstage with them? I frankly couldn't imagine anything more unpleasant.

Never say never.

We all know you praise The Luhvster like the Inca worshiped the sun. That's all good, but such fan loyalty doesn't have to extend to the utterly daft decision of letting a less-than-great actor join the band onstage. Even less so for the decision to STILL let him onstage after 20+ years. Perhaps if they let him go he might actually do, ya'know, some acting?
How is this Stamos guy famous? who the mighty f*** is John Stamos really? some guy from Full House? I've heard hardly anything but condemnation for that show for many years. How can some minor actor from the 80's still be riding that wave (No Beach Boys pun intended)?

He really was more than a minor actor. I didn't even catch the first run of Full House (tad too young), but people of my generation will automatically know who John Stamos is - that show was re-ran to death and everyone watched it. Honestly, Full House can be attributed to a lot of younger fans knowing who The Beach Boys are. This is a double edged sword, because most people now think it's all about the rah-rah-sis-boom-bah and clean family fun-in-the-sun songs. Maybe Love thinks he owes Stamos, or at least is thankful, for keeping the Beach Boys name circulating in those years when Stamos was the sh*t. Somewhere in heaven Carl is rolling his eyes...but the truth is whether you like it or not Stamos is tied to the Beach Boys name a 'lil bit. His popularity has slipped a lot since then - people still know Uncle Jesse - but it's still a big deal.

I just find it a little odd the way it looks when Stamos is on stage with the band - he's not owning it.

[Jason]

It has f*** all to do with praising Michael like the Inca worshiped the sun. It doesn't bug me personally if Stamos is on stage with them. It doesn't cause me any overbearing grief or stress. He's usually part of the meat and potatoes shows when he guests with them. It's 90 minutes of mindless entertainment. It could be worse. Not that he adds anything other than a face for cougars to admire...but still. The Beach Boys are not "our" band. The Beach Boys are "their" band. If they want Stamos up there, so be it. Don't see them in concert, stop buying their records, and get rid of all your merch if you have such a problem with what the Beach Boys do with their careers.

[Shady]

I'm sure there'll be plenty of good shows to come. With special guests. Good seats still available.

With David gone Van Dyke is the only man in the line up who could do "Getcha Back" the justice it deserves

[Sheriff John Stone]

And, while John Stamos is linked mostly with Mike Love (which is the main reason he is being hammered, if it was Brian Wilson we wouldn't be having this discussion), has anybody mentioned how Stamos chose to feature "Forever" on Full House. I give him a lot of credit for A) picking a then obscure song, B) from an album nobody had, and C) giving Dennis Wilson some recognition instead of the usual suspects, Brian and Mike.

That performance alone brought thousands of new fans to the Beach Boys - and eventually Dennis Wilson.

[Letsgoawayforawhile]

I'm sure there'll be plenty of good shows to come. With special guests. Good seats still available.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Shady]

And, while John Stamos is linked mostly with Mike Love (which is the main reason he is being hammered, if it was Brian Wilson we wouldn't be having this discussion), has anybody mentioned how Stamos chose to feature "Forever" on Full House. I give him a lot of credit for A) picking a then obscure song, B) from an album nobody had, and C) giving Dennis Wilson some recognition instead of the usual suspects, Brian and Mike.

That performance alone brought thousands of new fans to the Beach Boys - and eventually Dennis Wilson.

I don't get people hating on Stamos. Sure he's a joke but he's a Beach Boys fan, a hardcore one.

I remember he was talking to a TMZ reporter at his birthday party about the Beach Boys reunion and in the background you could hear "All I wanna do" playing over the speakers. You gotta give credit where credits due.

I think he's just catching shrapnel in the Brian/Al vs Mike/Bruce war. I'm on Brian's side and though I can see it's easy to hate on Stamos I won't. Has he hurt The Beach Boys reputation? Sure, Is he a bit of a Joke? Sure, Is he handsome as hell? Sure, but he hasn't doing anything to intentionally hurt the hardcore fan base. He's just a fan having a good time, like Foskett - but not as handsome

[EgoHanger1966]

And, while John Stamos is linked mostly with Mike Love (which is the main reason he is being hammered, if it was Brian Wilson we wouldn't be having this discussion), has anybody mentioned how Stamos chose to feature "Forever" on Full House. I give him a lot of credit for A) picking a then obscure song, B) from an album nobody had, and C) giving Dennis Wilson some recognition instead of the usual suspects, Brian and Mike.

That performance alone brought thousands of new fans to the Beach Boys - and eventually Dennis Wilson.

But....but...then he did this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuCz8JeMhuQ

[Aegir]

I'm sure there'll be plenty of good shows to come. With special guests. Good seats still available.

The funny thing is, this is the Summer in Paradise lineup of the Beach Boys, VDP plays accordion on that album.

[Sheriff John Stone]

And, while John Stamos is linked mostly with Mike Love (which is the main reason he is being hammered, if it was Brian Wilson we wouldn't be having this discussion), has anybody mentioned how Stamos chose to feature "Forever" on Full House. I give him a lot of credit for A) picking a then obscure song, B) from an album nobody had, and C) giving Dennis Wilson some recognition instead of the usual suspects, Brian and Mike.

That performance alone brought thousands of new fans to the Beach Boys - and eventually Dennis Wilson.

But....but...then he did this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuCz8JeMhuQ

Yeah, that was pretty bad. But, it could've been worse. It could've been Brian Wilson in 1988 dancing to his smash hit, "Night Time". Night time is delight time, it's starlight time, and it's the right time for me. Ah-ooooooooh!!!!!!!

[keysarsoze001]

Stamos hasn't had the most illustrious post-Full House career, but he did have a lead role on ER for 4 seasons about 5 years ago. He's also stayed very active in the theatre scene in New York, with leads in Bye Bye Birdie, Cabaret, Nine, How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying, and Hairspray (no, not as Mama).

And Mike's not the ONLY musician to ever have Stamos onstage with him. John Fogerty played with him a year or so ago, and if he's good enough for Creedence, he's good enough for our Boys.

In all honesty, I don't personally care for the M&B version of the band, but they do have enough great musicians in there that John isn't going to ruin their sound or anything. He's as harmless as Taylor Mills and serves essentially the same purpose. Besides, I can say from the point of view of people just about my age (mid-30s), there are a huge number of people for whom Full House was our first exposure to the band, and that goofy Hawaiian-shirt-wearing, girls dancing version of them is the first thing we picture when you say The Beach Boys. Is it the version I ultimately came to love? Of course not.

In a way, it's like begrudging Adam West going to Comic Cons and appearing as "Batman". He's as much a part of the story as Christian Bale, and though he represents an incarnation of that character that most contemporary fans don't care to acknowledge, he's part of the reason the character remained popular.

[Nicko1234]

I think Brian (and Al & David) sold them a lot more tickets this year than Stamos ever has.

Brian, yes. Al and David, probably not.

It is just a publicity shot. No big deal.

[Autotune]

In all honesty, I don't personally care for the M&B version of the band, but they do have enough great musicians in there that John isn't going to ruin their sound or anything. He's as harmless as Taylor Mills and serves essentially the same purpose.

That. Can we end this discussion now?

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Is it just me or has Brian almost systematically been setting Mike up to be the bad guy for going on 50 years?

[I. Spaceman]

Is it just me or has Brian almost systematically been setting Mike up to be the bad guy for going on 50 years?

He sets up others to always be in the position of blame should things go wrong, he is the "man behind the curtain" of his own life.
The thing is, all these guys had dysfunctional childhoods. They're screwed-up people, and their communication skills are abominable. They are all at fault, and the scale balances out in the end, or it will, after the full story is told (in my opinion).

[Shady]

Is it just me or has Brian almost systematically been setting Mike up to be the bad guy for going on 50 years?

I don't think he's said anything that wasn't true

Mike's been setting himself up as the bad guy, mostly through his unpopular opinions.

[Aegir]

In all honesty, I don't personally care for the M&B version of the band, but they do have enough great musicians in there that John isn't going to ruin their sound or anything. He's as harmless as Taylor Mills and serves essentially the same purpose.

That. Can we end this discussion now?

I disagree, I do think he ruins their sound when he is the only one playing drums.

[CenturyDeprived]

If Mike gets John Stamos, Can Brian get Kevin Shields to lead the BW band in My Bloody Valentine style shoegazing?

+1

[SurfRiderHawaii]

 

In all honesty, I don't personally care for the M&B version of the band, but they do have enough great musicians in there that John isn't going to ruin their sound or anything. He's as harmless as Taylor Mills and serves essentially the same purpose.

That. Can we end this discussion now?

No, this is too fun! 

[Cabinessenceking]

It has f*** all to do with praising Michael like the Inca worshiped the sun. It doesn't bug me personally if Stamos is on stage with them. It doesn't cause me any overbearing grief or stress. He's usually part of the meat and potatoes shows when he guests with them. It's 90 minutes of mindless entertainment. It could be worse. Not that he adds anything other than a face for cougars to admire...but still. The Beach Boys are not "our" band. The Beach Boys are "their" band. If they want Stamos up there, so be it. Don't see them in concert, stop buying their records, and get rid of all your merch if you have such a problem with what the Beach Boys do with their careers.

I see what you mean. I just can't honestly imagine Dennis, Carl, Al or Brian ever wanting Stamos in the band or even approving it. It's all up to Mike and his lakey Bruce. Then again we go back to the old discussion if Mike Love IS The Beach Boys (he certainly has the name issue sorted out). That, on the other hand, is a completely other discussion. I think the two are linked though.

[Cam Mott]

He sets up others to always be in the position of blame should things go wrong, he is the "man behind the curtain" of his own life.

Agree but I'm not sure how intentional it is [some at least probably] yet on the other hand he apparently deliberately does not correct that which he has left hanging undeservedly around the Boys neck.

[phirnis]

I'm sure there'll be plenty of good shows to come. With special guests. Good seats still available.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

But it's not the Beach Boys unless Ricky and Blondie are there!

[AndrewHickey]

I just can't honestly imagine Dennis, Carl, Al or Brian ever wanting Stamos in the band or even approving it. It's all up to Mike and his lakey Bruce.

Well, Brian, Carl and Al have all performed with Stamos on many occasions. Or did Mike outvote them one-three?