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Danimalist
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Could someone point me to a list of songs that Dennis played on in the studio. I was surprised recently to see discussion (probably here) of how many songs he actually played on. Is it maybe Andrew G's website that has all of this?
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Jon Stebbins' excellent recent book "The Beach Boys FAQ" lists most, if not all, of them.
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Quote from: Danimalist on October 07, 2012, 09:48:39 AM
Could someone point me to a list of songs that Dennis played on in the studio. I was surprised recently to see discussion (probably here) of how many songs he actually played on. Is it maybe Andrew G's website that has all of this?
Try this site for some in-depth info:
http://www.beachboysarchives.com/page1
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Quote from: c-man on October 07, 2012, 10:13:38 AM
Jon Stebbins' excellent recent book "The Beach Boys FAQ" lists most, if not all, of them.
He's listed the years '62-'65.
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Thanks to all!
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October 08, 2012, 02:19:41 PM »
But whatever you do, never believe this list (and I'm afraid the movie won't be more accurate):
http://wreckingcrew.tv/songlist.html
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October 09, 2012, 02:00:17 AM »
That's hugely frustrating for the following reasons:
Some of those AFMs are kosher, but several are not...
I informed Tedesco of the spurious ones (and cited what they actually were) well over a year ago, and was told it would be attended to forthwith...
Casual fans will assume that this list is accurate...
How unlike Christies of London.
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Andrew and I again tried to recently address the problem when Tedesco posted on facebook a link that took you to the incorrect session info claiming that the Beach Boys versions of I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun were Wrecking Crew sessions. In fact they were not, and his session info was for knock-off versions by the Challengers or some other copy-cat entity. We explained I Get Around had auxiliary WC input (Hal Blaine - timbales, Ray Pohlman - second bass), but features the core Beach Boys on the instruments including Dennis on drums, Brian on keys, Carl on guitars, Al on bass. Fun Fun Fun as well features the core Beach Boys on the instruments (with Hal Blaine and Dennis both playing drums). Our plea that these misleading session contracts be deleted due to the fact they are alluded to be, but in fact are not Beach Boys sessions, was ignored.
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Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 09, 2012, 10:12:20 AM
Andrew and I again tried to recently address the problem when Tedesco posted on facebook a link that took you to the incorrect session info claiming that the Beach Boys versions of I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun were Wrecking Crew sessions. In fact they were not, and his session info was for knock-off versions by the Challengers or some other copy-cat entity. We explained I Get Around had auxiliary WC input (Hal Blaine - timbales, Ray Pohlman - second bass), but features the core Beach Boys on the instruments including Dennis on drums, Brian on keys, Carl on guitars, Al on bass. Fun Fun Fun as well features the core Beach Boys on the instruments (with Hal Blaine and Dennis both playing drums). Our plea that these misleading session contracts be deleted due to the fact they are alluded to be, but in fact are not Beach Boys sessions, was ignored.
That's sad. Hope you guys don't get tired of telling them how it was, though.
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a diseased bunch of mo'fos if there ever was one… their beauty is so awesome that listening to them at their best is like being in some vast dream cathedral decorated with a thousand gleaming American pop culture icons.
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To sum it up, they blew it, they blew it consistently, they continue to blow it, it is tragic and this pathological problem caused The Beach Boys' greatest music to be so underrated by the general public.
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October 10, 2012, 08:12:15 AM »
For the record, I'd just like to note that The Challengers were an excellent, important group, not just a "copy-cat entity".
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Quote from: I. Spaceman on October 10, 2012, 08:12:15 AM
For the record, I'd just like to note that The Challengers were an excellent, important group, not just a "copy-cat entity".
Noted. Maybe you have a better idea who the artist was on the offending session. All i am certain of is that it was not the Beach Boys version...as these sessions on the link below were held months after I Get Around and Don't Worry Baby were recorded by the Beach Boys, and they are at RCA and Capitol Studios, and we all know that Don't Worry Baby and I Get Around were recorded at Western. This info being touted by the Wrecking Crew film producer as evidence of the Wrecking Crew playing on these Beach Boys hits is so obviously wrong that its laughable...and yet they leave it up as if it is true.
http://wreckingcrew.tv/afmcontracts/BeachBoys_IGetAround+DontWorry.pdf
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Oh, absolutely, I agree completely. It shames the Wrecking Crew history to have those inaccuracies in there. Carol Kaye isn't the only one of them to take credit for sessions she didn't play on, she is just the most vocal and prolific about it.
There is a certain point where the understandable pride and defensiveness of the players regarding their history spills over into an attempt to claim too much achievement. The same thing happened with Motown's Funk Brothers, after their resurrection.
And, as we know, Carol claims Motown classics, simply because she performed on cover versions recorded cheaply in Hollywood as album filler. Strange that the Crew rarely get credit for the one giant Motown 60's smash they actually did perform, Love Is Here And Now You're Gone.
The I Get Around/Don't Worry Baby sessions in question were definitely of the copycat variety, and may indeed be for The Challengers, who finished as a pale shadow of their former glory, at GNP-Crescendo.
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October 10, 2012, 08:35:01 PM »
We should all make a commitment to contact Stebbins whenever untrue things of this matter pop up on the Internet; but I suspect that it would turn into a full-time job. I really wonder if the myth of the Beach Boys being somehow not a rock band is not firmly ensconced into the same mythology that turned the Beatles into infallible rock gods.
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