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Phoenix
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"Summer's Never Really Gone"
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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-ms-mike-love-beach-boys-on-brian-wilson-20121004,0,261746.story
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Nevermind. I swear I checked first!
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Quote from: Phoenix on October 05, 2012, 07:55:42 AM
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-ms-mike-love-beach-boys-on-brian-wilson-20121004,0,261746.story
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Thanks for posting the link.
Excellent, straightforward and thorough.
Mike explained why he was not vested with the authority to fire fellow founding bandmates.
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No surprises but a sincere explanation. Well done Mike.
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Nice work by Mr. Love. And it clarifies what I believed to be true from the beginning. That plans for Mike to continue his configuration of the band were agreed upon after the reunion tour ended. The only thing I didn't like is that nowhere does Mike mention his desire to work with his bandmates in the future. Although I imagine he hasn't closed the door on that possibility.
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Wow. After reading this I have a new-found respect for Mr Love. It's a rather nicely constructed explanation of the whole situation and his feelings about it. He seems sincere in his desire to set the record straight.
Well done Mike.
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I agree, this is very well-put. Mike puts on his best face here.
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A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
I guess he just got really swept up in the whole thing. Suddenly he feels like a Beach Boy again, obviously enjoyed playing with Al, David and Mike again, and hoped it could continue.
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
Brian's not to blame for the 'sacking' myth.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 05, 2012, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
Brian's not to blame for the 'sacking' myth.
Brian started the I don't understand why stuff in the CNN article. That touched off everything else. Wasn't blaming Brian, but the press ran with that quote and it got out of control after that.
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Quote from: SgtTimBob on October 05, 2012, 08:55:36 AM
Wow. After reading this I have a new-found respect for Mr Love. It's a rather nicely constructed explanation of the whole situation and his feelings about it. He seems sincere in his desire to set the record straight.
Well done Mike.
It is a good article and I'm glad someone from the group finally set the record straight although given the speed at which news reaches people in 2012, it's still somewhat a day late and dollar short. It does sound like the end of the group as a cohesive unit though. That is obviously just my read on it but the vibrations that this could continue on with another smaller tour next summer right now seems like a distant whim. Still looking forward to that tasty box set to keep us warm through the winter months.
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
Exactly.
Should the two threads be merged?
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:53:48 AM
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
Brian's not to blame for the 'sacking' myth.
Brian started the I don't understand why stuff in the CNN article. That touched off everything else. Wasn't blaming Brian, but the press ran with that quote and it got out of control after that.
Really, though, who knows if he actually said that, and even if he did, I'd venture to guess it wasn't near the phrasing that was picked up by the press.
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Quote from: EgoHanger1966 on October 05, 2012, 10:07:58 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:53:48 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 05, 2012, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
Brian's not to blame for the 'sacking' myth.
Brian started the I don't understand why stuff in the CNN article. That touched off everything else. Wasn't blaming Brian, but the press ran with that quote and it got out of control after that.
Really, though, who knows if he actually said that, and even if he did, I'd venture to guess it wasn't near the phrasing that was picked up by the press.
It doesn't matter if he actually said it, as that is what got into the press. The press picked that quote up and ran crazy with it.
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Remember too, not one Beach Boy ever mentioned anything about being fired, but the press threw it out there like that. Even the heading in today's article says "...Wilson's firing".
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Fair play, well written by Mike.
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It's about damn time we got an explanation. Well said, Mike.
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Very moving piece. Thank you Mike.
I wish Mike could put that same sensitive side of him into lyrics for a new record.
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:53:48 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 05, 2012, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
Brian's not to blame for the 'sacking' myth.
Brian started the I don't understand why stuff in the CNN article. That touched off everything else. Wasn't blaming Brian, but the press ran with that quote and it got out of control after that.
I don't think anybody in the band can be blamed for the media's laziness and penchant for exaggeration. That's on the media. I think most of them were lazy, and maybe a few knew Brian wasn't truly "fired", but were using extreme hyperbole to characterize a series of events which is nearly comical in how badly it was handled. A press release before the end of the reunion tour telling people you are going to continue touring without 3/5 of the band is not in any universe going to result in any positive reaction.
In any event, if we were to pinpoint where the debacle began from a PR/media standpoint, certainly it was Mike's press release that touched the whole thing off, and then it took off from there.
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I wish Mike could put that same sensitive side of him into lyrics for a new record.
Hmm, good point. If an advertising guy could write the lyrics for "Pet Sounds," maybe a publicist can do "Pleasure Island."
Kidding, kidding! Stop with the kicking and punching, heeeey laaaady!
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Quote from: HeyJude on October 05, 2012, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:53:48 AM
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 05, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
A very well stated article by Mike. It explains everything that we have discussed here over the past few weeks. It would be nice if Brian & Al put out a release backing the story. Mike really should not have had to take the heat for this mess. It is amazing that one comment by Brian, picked up by the press, blew this whole thing out of proportion.
Brian's not to blame for the 'sacking' myth.
Brian started the I don't understand why stuff in the CNN article. That touched off everything else. Wasn't blaming Brian, but the press ran with that quote and it got out of control after that.
I don't think anybody in the band can be blamed for the media's laziness and penchant for exaggeration. That's on the media. I think most of them were lazy, and maybe a few knew Brian wasn't truly "fired", but were using extreme hyperbole to characterize a series of events which is nearly comical in how badly it was handled. A press release before the end of the reunion tour telling people you are going to continue touring without 3/5 of the band is not in any universe going to result in any positive reaction.
In any event, if we were to pinpoint where the debacle began from a PR/media standpoint, certainly it was Mike's press release that touched the whole thing off, and then it took off from there.
No, it wasn't Mike's fault. If the reunion hadn't been amended to add some 25 additional shows, the tour would have been over around mid-August. Not much for Mike to do considering the added London shows took the tour to September 28. What is worse: a press release letting people know, or pissing off unknowing concert goers?
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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In any case, it looks like he baked pissing people off into the cake. Especially those prone to be perennially pissy. Maybe the best course of action would've been to hold off booking M&B gigs until the conclusion of the tour, gauge the temperature a year later and give it an adequate buffer instead of immediately asserting dominance and benefiting from the added press by using the name. Sure it was licensed and entirely within his rights to do so, but it still stinks from many vantage points even if they are well versed in the legal maneuvering and BRI intrigue backstory.
So what if "traditional gigs he always played" were off the table that year. I know, I know. What would Christian Love do with his time other than go to his Support Group for the Improbably Named? Might've helped avoid all this nonsense, tho.
Mike could've taken some advanced TM courses in the fall and winter, used his fatter bank account and yogic calm to write some good lyrics for Brian, maybe stay in LA for a spell to work with him like he always says he wants to do. Poor Nutty Jerry might not have been driven to drinking barbecue sauce straight out of the bottle.
Seriously, have you seen him lately? A broken man.
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The shows were booked prior to the reunion tour. Man, we go around and around and around on this point. I swear it has to be selective memory issues when it comes to this point.
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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