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« on: September 11, 2012, 12:28:31 PM »

Any suggestions for Track Talk #3 ?

'Little Pad' anyone?

Why not?!

Isn't an earlier version of this song supposed to exist? I'd love to hear that. This is another song that sounds like it has its roots in the Smile period. It reminds me of Western Theme in places and seems potentially like another song that grew out of one of the strands of H&V.

This is the high point of Smiley for me just as Country Air is to WH. 

And what about the Tune X as Little Pad precursor theory?!!
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 12:31:30 PM »

inb4 Andrew Doe says that part of it derives from "Hawaiian Song".

Also, no way is it a reworking of "Tune X" or "Do You Like Worms?"
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 12:37:18 PM »

To me, this song is the highlight of Smiley Smile, and along with She's Going Bald the most perfect distillation of the Smiley Smile vibe. Smiley Smile is both peaceful and slightly disturbing. This is the peaceful highlight, SGB is the "slightly disturbing" highlight (although smiley-version of Wonderful is kind of both).

Oh man, that Little Pad humming. Gets me everytime. Never has a bunch of guys hummed more beautifully.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 12:38:11 PM »

Wish there was a version without the stoned laughing. Not that I'd want it to replace, I'd just like to have both!
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 12:48:16 PM »

Does anyone know who do the laughing? Is it the the whole gang or just Al, Carl and Brian? Is Mike there somewhere?
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 12:57:01 PM »

Does anyone know who do the laughing? Is it the the whole gang or just Al, Carl and Brian? Is Mike there somewhere?

does Dennis do anything on that album?
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 01:09:36 PM »

Does anyone know who do the laughing? Is it the the whole gang or just Al, Carl and Brian? Is Mike there somewhere?

does Dennis do anything on that album?

He's all over "Wind Chimes" and "She's Goin' Bald" and is certainly on "Good Vibrations". Pretty sure I can hear him on "Vegetables". What else? The better question might be, where can you hear Al and Bruce? I hear Al on exactly one line of "She's Goin' Bald" (doubling someone else) and, sans the Smile-era stuff, not much else.

The laughing is the group. Brian is certainly audible, Mike is doing the lead.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 03:55:01 PM »

The main laughing sounds like Carl to me. Love that song. It is where most folks likely ripped Smiley off the turntable in disgust.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 07:03:43 PM »

I really like Mike's vocals here. He sounds so sincere. He hasn't got the mellow thing down quite as well as he would later have (Meant for you, Big Sur...) but he sounds like he's singing from the heart.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 08:28:34 PM »

A favourite of Pete Townshend:

"'Blue Red and Grey' (from The Who By Numbers, 1975) was a ukelele ditty with John Entwistle adding brass ... It was about nothing at all; it reminded me of an old "Smiley Smile" Beach Boys number."
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2012, 09:45:57 PM »

Ah dammit!! I started another without knowing about this one... I'll add my stuff here... sorry guys...
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2012, 09:47:47 PM »

A guy called The Zodiac (who may be posting here too... are you here?) said on another forum: "'Little Pad' is a magical pixie window into a psychedelic tropical paradise and if the door closed behind me when I was over there I wouldn't mind at all."

I could not agree more!!

I hated this song at first because I could not get past the stoned "Do it" giggly intro. And now it is perhaps in my top 3 BB's tracks. I just love the lovely lilting ukelele (if that is what it is) and Carl's yearning vocal. The melodic 'hummingbirds' humming is perfection in a sort of Walt Disney in the '40s kind of way. Clip-clops. Dry 'Baptist' organ. Everything!

And there smack dab in the middle of the Smiley Smile cover art is that Little Pad with the little Smile above the door and the rising smoke! This song along with 'Country Air', 'With Me Tonight' and SS 'Wind Chimes' makes me so glad that things took the course that they did.

Outstanding musical beauty!!
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 10:44:19 PM »

The main laughing sounds like Carl to me. Love that song. It is where most folks likely ripped Smiley off the turntable in disgust.

The very moment I first heard the laughing, I realized I was in it for the long haul with the Beach Boys.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2012, 10:44:48 PM »

The main laughing sounds like Carl to me. Love that song. It is where most folks likely ripped Smiley off the turntable in disgust.
If they made it past Fall Breaks, which is when most of my teenage pals would head out the door.

Great song, with each distinct section holding something different.  Love those long held organ notes.

Bought it as a vinyl twofer with Pet Sounds, but have ended up listening to Smiley way more than the big one
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2012, 11:12:15 PM »

If they made it past Fall Breaks, which is when most of my teenage pals would head out the door.

Oh yeah, that's another thing I've always wondered, placing that song so near the beginning. I guess it serves as "if you can take this, you can take the whole album" kind of thing, but it certainly doesn't make the album any easier to approach. Trust me, I know, with Smiley Smile being my first BB album and all.

Come to think of it, I can't help but wonder how I ever became a fan. I didn't touch their music for five years after first hearing Smiley (loving it now, of course).
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2012, 07:38:29 AM »

The main laughing sounds like Carl to me. Love that song. It is where most folks likely ripped Smiley off the turntable in disgust.

The very moment I first heard the laughing, I realized I was in it for the long haul with the Beach Boys.

Same here.
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2012, 09:07:30 AM »

If there are actually people that dislike this song -- or anything on Smiley Smile -- I don't want to even be acquainted with them! That they all sound high as f*** during this song (well, and the rest of the album) makes every single thing about it even better, haha.
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2012, 09:19:38 AM »

It's fine, it's cool, it's enoyable. It's a footnote.

If you obess on that mediocre track then you got some issues. Telling you.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2012, 09:45:26 AM »

The "mediocre" songs like this one are the songs that help make this one of my favorite albums. I usually forget "Good Vibrations" is even on the album.
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2012, 10:22:21 AM »

Yeah, I honestly don't care one bit about "Heroes and Villains" or "Good Vibrations" in the context of Smiley Smile -- the other songs are where it's at! Though it would've been interesting if they had put the Lei'd in Hawaii studio recording of "GV" on the album instead!
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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2012, 10:51:09 AM »

There's a Lei'd in Hawaii version of Good Vibrations?
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2012, 11:41:04 AM »

Yeah, it was officially released on the 40th anniversary single CD, track five: "Good Vibrations" [live concert rehearsal 1967-08-25]
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2012, 01:46:05 PM »

It's fine, it's cool, it's enoyable. It's a footnote.

If you obess on that mediocre track then you got some issues. Telling you.

You're crazy.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2012, 02:57:46 PM »

what a great song. fine, cool, enjoyable... and so much more!

Little Pad takes me away and is one of my favorite entries in the entire history of songwriting and recorded music. Interesting how it is stitched together in pieces like Good Vibrations and much of SMiLE. The humming part with steel guitar is also the same chord progression as the "hum-be-dum" section of GV. sure, I-ii-V is a common progression but still. the laughing at the start is contagious and never fails to put a smile on my face.

I'd love to hear the earlier "Hawaiian Song" version, but I suspect it's just one of the sections that became the finished piece.

as for the relationship between "Pad" and "Tones" I can't say for sure that one exists, but there are definite similarities.
HERE is the mash-up i made, and HERE is Sean Macreavy's version.

and HERE is my crossfade of Little Pad and Diamond Head, which goes near the end of my SMiLE mix.

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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2012, 04:02:13 PM »

The Whitest Kids U Know took this for their theme song. Does anyone know if the BB's were credited?
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