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It was okay, but everything from then on until 1995 or so was pretty bad.
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Quote from: Jay on May 26, 2012, 10:25:38 PM
What about The Red Hot Chili Peppers?
i have to agree with this..i always felt like they had a great single from their albums and the rest was filler.
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It seems like their whole attitude has changed. They went from "Out In LA" to "california, rest in peace".
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Quote from: Jay on May 26, 2012, 10:25:38 PM
What about The Red Hot Chili Peppers?
Disagree...I think they became better musicians & writers with age, although I may *prefer* the earlier stuff.
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Quote from: Billy C on May 26, 2012, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 26, 2012, 10:25:38 PM
What about The Red Hot Chili Peppers?
Disagree...I think they became better musicians & writers with age, although I may *prefer* the earlier stuff.
really? i mean their singles are great but most of their albums just contain filler songs.
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Quote from: Newguy562 on May 26, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
you think let's dance was a fail?
Compared to his 70s albums it was. Let's Dance, Tonight, that horrible duet with Jagger, Never Let Me Down, Tin Machine... each one is worse than its predecessor. The 80s wasn't the happiest period to be a Bowie fan I suppose. He got himself together by the mid-to-late 90s with some decent albums though he never achieved the samel level of greatness he did in the seventies.
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Quote from: hapman on May 27, 2012, 07:00:29 AM
Quote from: Newguy562 on May 26, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
you think let's dance was a fail?
Compared to his 70s albums it was. Let's Dance, Tonight, that horrible duet with Jagger, Never Let Me Down, Tin Machine... each one is worse than its predecessor. The 80s wasn't the happiest period to be a Bowie fan I suppose. He got himself together by the mid-to-late 90s with some decent albums though he never achieved the samel level of greatness he did in the seventies.
david bowie's career has always been a roller coaster ride
i seen his documentary the other day.
i could never get into his music for some reason but my father is a huge fan of his.
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Quote from: joshferrell on May 25, 2012, 12:19:37 PM
with Elvis it wasn't really a "decline" but more of "not caring anymore",he still had it the last couple years but it all depended on his mood .when he didn't care his performances suffered (Aka:June 19th 1977), when he did care his performances were still great (Aka:Dec 31st 1976,June 26th 1977),the same with his studio stuff,he stopped caring in 1971 with the christmas album and you can tell,then after that it all depended on the song,some songs he cared for and you can hear it because he put more effort into them while others he didn't care for and he didn't put as much effort into those songs,but he still had the voice and stage presence,even though I do agree that after 1975 it became VERY obvious,especially with the way he looked and perform on stage..
As far as his voice was concerned, I don't think Elvis ever 'lost it', he just got really bored of singing the same old songs on tour. He was generally far more into the 'big voice' ballads like 'It's Now or Never', 'Hurt' and gospel classics like 'How Great Thou Art'.
From what I've read, sadly, I think Elvis got scared of a lot of things - scared of getting older, death threats, poor business decisions (Graceland was indeed in the red and partially mortgaged out at the time of his death) his deteriorating appearance and some genuine health problems (ie clinical depression, possibly undiagnosed bi-polar I speculate, glaucoma, as well as a distended colon, which was very painful and caused some unpleasant complications from what I've read) though IMO much of the personal deterioration was caused I would say by his unhealthy lifestyle), scared of being lonely, not knowing who and what was real. And obviously spending too much money. He did work VERY hard from 1969 to 1977, over 1000 concerts, I believe.
Obviously he thought the industrial quantities of prescription drugs he was consuming were 'medicine' (like some southern US folk used to do, I believe), but of course, they were destroying his body, his reason and making him paranoid. He fired two of his guys in '76 and the next year, they wrote and published an expose on his drug abuse etc. Elvis died the day before he was due to go on tour for the first time since that book was published. He was terrified of people in the audience shouting 'Junkie' at him etc. On some level, he must have known he was seriously out of control with the drugs and diet, but he couldn't stop and nobody could make him ...
He really should have taken at least a couple of years out from showbusiness from '75 or '76 to deal with his health and drug issues, rest up and get back in condition before coming back in say, '78 with a more modern look and style and some great new songs.
On a deeper level, I suppose you could say he just got sick of being 'Elvis Presley, Handsome Superstar' and knew the reality would never again match the myth. Also there's some truth I think, in that he never got over the loss of his mother and the blow to his pride of his wife leaving him for another man, despite all the affairs he himself was having. Reality can only be avoided for so long.
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Weezer. The first two albums are lauded as two of the best of the 90's. They were absolutely huge on MTV and such. After the second one Rivers Cuomo went to Harvard, and ever since the Island in the Sun single release, they've pretty much been labeled sell outs. (Even tho i personally liked the Green Album which was the album that song was on). Actually the last like four albums they did have been universally panned. There was even news that some fan had offered them some obscene amount of money just to quit, which they of course haven't. Anyway tho, every time there's news of a new album, I still go and get it hoping they've made a come back. They're the one band I don't even read reviews for before i get it. It's very weird haha
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Quote from: Jay on May 26, 2012, 10:25:38 PM
What about The Red Hot Chili Peppers?
They've always been more rollercoaster-y for me, personally. First album blows (although the demos for it were so good - shame about the production, iffy performances and lineup change), next two albums are pretty good (Anthony's vocals are somewhat terrible on Uplift, though - did he have a cold or something?), can't stand most of Mother's Milk, Blood Sugar Sex Magik is good (if way too long and a bit samey sans a few songs), I really enjoy One Hot Minute and Californication, By The Way was pretty good, I really disliked about 3/4 of Stadium Arcadium and thought the songwriting was appallingly lazy (although the other 1/4th was great), and their newest album is okay if a bit forgettable.
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