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« on: May 14, 2012, 06:42:37 PM »

http://arkhonia.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/%e2%80%98smile%e2%80%99-%e2%80%93-my-first-25-years-before-i-continue-a-note-about-sources/ has anyone else read this? It's quite a detailed study.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 03:46:20 PM »

I know Arkhonia very well (we've been offline friends for a decade or so). He's a lovely bloke, but he *really*, *REALLY* doesn't like Mike Love, and his posts about Smile are definitely from that point-of-view. His thesis is that the current reunion is part of a longer-term PR campaign by Love to ensure that Brian's best work is largely ignored in favour of the stuff where Love is more prominent, and to reduce the importance of Smile to the group's image.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 05:48:20 PM »

"The same fate fell upon the inadvertantly-ironic title track of their 1968 album (‘we’ve been friends now for so many years…we drifted apart for a little bit of a spell‘…etc. I guess these are Mike Love lyrics..."    Roll Eyes

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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 11:09:25 PM »

While I would certainly disagree with someone saying Nevermind is the most important rock record ever (and I've been a Nirvana fan for most of my life), I would certainly never call them "dumb" for thinking so. Why should reading about albums on the internet dictate your opinion on such a matter, anyway?

The pages-long dissection of the Brian-written rant against "Heroes And Villains" is sad/amusing, as well, in that it attempts to take the fact that Brian indeed wrote it and debunk it just for the sake of busting Mike's balls further. How nice.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 07:13:28 AM »

I like about half of Never Mind. Nirvana had a great sound that helped change the rock mainstream from big hair metal to grunge/alternative. But before them there was the Pixies, REM and U2. I fell that they were doing things in the midst of the hair metal days. They were the Pioneers of modern grunge/alternative.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 07:40:47 AM »

Nevermind was a huge album for me... I didn't get past SLTS for the first two weeks the cassette was in the car.  That, along with Ten, Badmotorfinger and Superfuzz Bigmuff, were extremely important albums in making that change from hair metal to grunge and non lo-fi alternative.  At least, for those that like their music on the heavier side.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 05:32:00 PM »

To sum: the first 25 years didn't give you any answers & printed stuff seems repetitious. That's very accurate.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 06:04:54 PM »

The thing I like most about grunge is that it got us out of the awful hair metal era.
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Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 07:44:59 PM »

Hair metal>>>>>>>>>>>>>grunge
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 04:44:25 PM »

Hair metal>>>>>>>>>>>>>grunge


Are you saying its greater then grunge? IYO. Its mainly the clothes and hair I dislike. Some of the music is ok. I was really into it in junior high (91-92).
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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