Spring 2012 edition of Endless Summer Quarterly

[Alex]

I love Islands In the Sun:     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWvOSYXfcM

[Andrew G. Doe]

AGD does a really good job of pulling together almost everything known about the Candix/X/Candix single. Nice to see it all in print, in one article; tho, from a collecting point I think I'm still a bit confused. Probably Mikie can straighten me out, or maybe AGD can help: 
What I think I read: # 331, was originally CD-TS-1, but there are some that are CD-TS-1-R?   Then the "X", and then Candix #301, but some are CD-TS-1 and some are CD-TS-1-R ?   There's no mention of the Era/no Era, either. ( oh well) 

I left the Era distribution info out for two reasons:

1 - it wasn't essential to the release sequence...

2 - I'm not sure I entirely understand it myself.

Re: 331, there's only CD-TS-1. The 1-R was the X pressing. Candix 301 had both 2R and 2-R pressings. I may expand on this article in the future on 10452.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Assuming the album is twelve tracks it looks like we've gotten half of the titles so far:

* Waves of Love
* That's Why God Made the Radio
* Beaches in Mind
* Islands In the Sun
* Shelter
* The Private Life of Bill and Sue

I'm guessing there's a track called "Summer's Gone" too.

[coco1997]

I'm guessing there's a track called "Summer's Gone" too.

Me too. I'm really hoping this is where the upcoming PBS special came from. "Summer's Gone" would be an amazing title for the final track on the record. 

[Mikie]

I thought we put this to rest years ago:

Surfin/Luau
X RECORDS 301
CD-TS-1-R, CD-TS-2-R
Drink-Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 331
CD-TS-1, CD-TS-2
Drink-Guild Music (BMI)

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 301
Dist. By ERA RECORD SALES INC.
CD-TS-1-R, CD-TS-2-R
Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 301
CD-TS-1R, CD-TS-2R
Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

[bgas]

I thought we put this to rest years ago:

Surfin/Luau
X RECORDS 301
CD-TS-1-R, CD-TS-2-R
Drink-Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 331
CD-TS-1, CD-TS-2
Drink-Guild Music (BMI)

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 301
Dist. By ERA RECORD SALES INC.
CD-TS-1-R, CD-TS-2-R
Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 301
CD-TS-1R, CD-TS-2R
Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Probably did, but AGD just wrote the article, and I forget stuff sometmes.
But based on Andrew's quote:

I left the Era distribution info out for two reasons:

1 - it wasn't essential to the release sequence...

2 - I'm not sure I entirely understand it myself.

Re: 331, there's only CD-TS-1. The 1-R was the X pressing. Candix 301 had both 2R and 2-R pressings. I may expand on this article in the future on 10452.

and what you've just posted, it looks like the Era releases had slightly different master numbers than the non-Eras( 1-R  vs 1R);
 so do we think the Era release was definitely later than the other?

[Andrew G. Doe]

I thought we put this to rest years ago:

Surfin/Luau
X RECORDS 301
CD-TS-1-R, CD-TS-2-R
Drink-Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 331
CD-TS-1, CD-TS-2
Drink-Guild Music (BMI)

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 301
Dist. By ERA RECORD SALES INC.
CD-TS-1-R, CD-TS-2-R
Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Surfin/Luau
CANDIX 301
CD-TS-1R, CD-TS-2R
Guild Music (BMI)
Producer: H. Morgan

Probably did, but AGD just wrote the article, and I forget stuff sometmes.
But based on Andrew's quote:

I left the Era distribution info out for two reasons:

1 - it wasn't essential to the release sequence...

2 - I'm not sure I entirely understand it myself.

Re: 331, there's only CD-TS-1. The 1-R was the X pressing. Candix 301 had both 2R and 2-R pressings. I may expand on this article in the future on 10452.

and what you've just posted, it looks like the Era releases had slightly different master numbers than the non-Eras( 1-R  vs 1R);
 so do we think the Era release was definitely later than the other?

Those aren't master numbers (which would have stayed the same across all the releases) but pressing notations. Somewhere along the line the 2nd stamper broke and they had to make another one. Is all.

[SG7]

Every time I open the SmileySmile board and see "Spring 2012 edition..." I think for a second that they re-released the Spring-album.

I would love that!

[Mikie]

My understanding is that there were 3 distributors for the Surfin'/Luau single. Alco, Pacific, and ERA. The most recent one was ERA, which distributed the single nationally. Brad Elliott seems to think that Candix 301, with the "Era Record Sales" notation, is much harder to find than Candix 301 without the notation. Supposedly, Candix 301 without the "ERA" notation is the much more common of all of the Candix/'X' releases. Surfin'/Luau 'X' 301 is by far the rarest single of all of them.

[bgas]

My understanding is that there were 3 distributors for the Surfin'/Luau single. Alco, Pacific, and ERA. The most recent one was ERA, which distributed the single nationally. Brad Elliott seems to think that Candix 301, with the "Era Record Sales" notation, is much harder to find than Candix 301 without the notation. Supposedly, Candix 301 without the "ERA" notation is the much more common of all of the Candix/'X' releases, including the 331. Surfin'/Luau 'X' 301 is by far the rarest single of all of them.

Brad is supposedly out scouring the world for copies of the Era 301, constantly on the move, with no internet access, which is why nobody hears from him.
 
The X, from what I see on Ebay and elsewhere( unfortunately for me and what I paid for it) is alot more common than the Candix 331.  I bet I see 10 copies of the X  for every copy of the 331; and the X isn't THAT common.
 I don't know if that means more people bought the X and are willing to part with it for a good price, or there are less copies of the 331, or peoplewho own the 331's simply don't offer them for sale, OR, I just don't know...

[Jim V.]

Assuming the album is twelve tracks it looks like we've gotten half of the titles so far:

* Waves of Love
* That's Why God Made the Radio
* Beaches in Mind
* Islands In the Sun
* Shelter
* The Private Life of Bill and Sue

I'm guessing there's a track called "Summer's Gone" too.

So I'd assume "Summer's Gone" is a title, as I doubt Andrew would say that without a very good reason for doing so. So that leads me to believe we will have at least two "Al" titles. That is enough for me. I think "Waves of Love" from Postcard is awesome, and if "Islands in the Sun" measures up to that, then that is cool with me. But I think two songs from Al will do. That is as much as he's ever contributed as far as I know and that's fine here.

Then we have "Shelter" and "The Private Life of Bill and Sue" which is nearly certainly Brian-written songs, possibly with Scott Bennett or Joe Thomas. I'm pretty sure they were mentioned when it was still referred to as Brian's new solo album with his friend Jeff helping out. "Shelter" sounds quite interesting, and the title sounds very "Brian" to me.

And judging by the titles, I'm going to say "Beaches in Mind" and "Summer's Gone" are Brian/Mike co-writes. And for all I know, they might be the best songs on the album. But I have to say, if indeed Mike wrote the lyrics to these, it is a shame this man feels that he can't write a lyric for The Beach Boys that doesn't relate to the beach or the summer. The group of songs that appeared online around 2005 or so didn't have many "summery" topics and that was ok. The music wasn't great, but the lyrics weren't bad. Why does he feel the need to make every Beach Boys song these days about summer and the beach?!?

And "That's Why God Made the Radio"? Well, we shall see soon. I predict that it will have a "B. Wilson" writing credit, but regardless, hopefully it's a good song.

[Andrew G. Doe]

My understanding is that there were 3 distributors for the Surfin'/Luau single. Alco, Pacific, and ERA. The most recent one was ERA, which distributed the single nationally. Brad Elliott seems to think that Candix 301, with the "Era Record Sales" notation, is much harder to find than Candix 301 without the notation. Supposedly, Candix 301 without the "ERA" notation is the much more common of all of the Candix/'X' releases, including the 331. Surfin'/Luau 'X' 301 is by far the rarest single of all of them.

Brad is supposedly out scouring the world for copies of the Era 301, constantly on the move, with no internet access, which is why nobody hears from him.
 
The X, from what I see on Ebay and elsewhere( unfortunately for me and what I paid for it) is alot more common than the Candix 331.  I bet I see 10 copies of the X  for every copy of the 331; and the X isn't THAT common.
 I don't know if that means more people bought the X and are willing to part with it for a good price, or there are less copies of the 331, or peoplewho own the 331's simply don't offer them for sale, OR, I just don't know...

The X 301 disc is far and away the rarest of the three.

[Steve Mayo]

and getting rarer.... i had about 7 of the x pressings before they disappeared from the face of this planet.. 

[Mikie]

Brad is supposedly out scouring the world for copies of the Era 301, constantly on the move, with no internet access, which is why nobody hears from him. The X, from what I see on Ebay and elsewhere( unfortunately for me and what I paid for it) is alot more common than the Candix 331.  I bet I see 10 copies of the X  for every copy of the 331; and the X isn't THAT common.  I don't know if that means more people bought the X and are willing to part with it for a good price, or there are less copies of the 331, or peoplewho own the 331's simply don't offer them for sale, OR, I just don't know...

Well, when I was collecting these singles back in the 70's, the Candix 331 took me a little longer to find than the others. But the 'X' label was also hard to find and the more expensive one. Of course I live in California and back then I bought all my Candix/'X' singles in Southern California, so at the time I think they were a little more ubiquitous in that area than other places.

Still having trouble with spelling, eh Bgas? Like I said before, there's no such word in the English language (at least to my knowledge) as "alot". It's "A lot". But educated people already know that.......  

[Aegir]

Still having trouble with spelling, eh Bgas? Like I said before, there's no such word in the English language (at least to my knowledge) as "alot". It's "A lot". But educated people already know that.......  

"alot" became an English word the moment people started using it as one. that's how language works.

[Mikie]

and getting rarer.... i had about 7 of the x pressings before they disappeared from the face of this planet.. 

Wow!  That's really unfortunate, Steve.  Damn!  Think of all those collectors out there who still don't have just one of them and would like one. If there was a fire in my house and I had time to get out, I think I'd run and grab my Beach Boys & Beatles vinyl singles and LP's first. Then the CD's. Then my girlfriend.......

[bgas]

My understanding is that there were 3 distributors for the Surfin'/Luau single. Alco, Pacific, and ERA. The most recent one was ERA, which distributed the single nationally. Brad Elliott seems to think that Candix 301, with the "Era Record Sales" notation, is much harder to find than Candix 301 without the notation. Supposedly, Candix 301 without the "ERA" notation is the much more common of all of the Candix/'X' releases, including the 331. Surfin'/Luau 'X' 301 is by far the rarest single of all of them.

Brad is supposedly out scouring the world for copies of the Era 301, constantly on the move, with no internet access, which is why nobody hears from him.
 
The X, from what I see on Ebay and elsewhere( unfortunately for me and what I paid for it) is alot more common than the Candix 331.  I bet I see 10 copies of the X  for every copy of the 331; and the X isn't THAT common.
 I don't know if that means more people bought the X and are willing to part with it for a good price, or there are less copies of the 331, or peoplewho own the 331's simply don't offer them for sale, OR, I just don't know...

The X 301 disc is far and away the rarest of the three.

nah, I'll have to disagree with you there; but, pray tell, on what do you base your assertion? Surely not Steve's loss of 7 X's? you'll note he didn't say he had 7 - 331's, which in and of itself would seem to make those rarer.

[Mikie]

"alot" became an English word the moment people started using it as one. that's how language works.

To me, it reflects a lack of intelligence.

And the over-used words I see most often these days by people with a limited vocabulary:

Awesome

Amazing

Ridiculous

And the phrase:

Oh my God!!  

And text speak:

LOL!!

[bgas]

OH MY GOD!!  I went to the AWESOME site Popsike.com and found these AMAZING facts:
They have 25 auction results for the X 45, but only 17 for Candix 331; isn't that RIDICULOUS? ( auction results since 2005)

Glad I don't text, that would give me ALOT more to worry about, eh Mikie?

[Mikie]

Hey Bgas, show us your collection of Beach Boys 4 and 8-track tapes!   

ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.    ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. 

Are you collecting CD's yet?

[bgas]

Hey Bgas, show us your collection of Beach Boys 4 and 8-track tapes!   

ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.    ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. 

Are you collecting CD's yet?

That's Dempsey territory, I'm not going there!
Maybe I'll start posting my cassettes and pocket rockers, just for you.

[18thofMay]

OH MY GOD!!  I went to the AWESOME site Popsike.com and found these AMAZING facts:
They have 25 auction results for the X 45, but only 17 for Candix 331; isn't that RIDICULOUS? ( auction results since 2005)

Glad I don't text, that would give me ALOT more to worry about, eh Mikie?

lol

[Mikie]

Maybe I'll start posting my cassettes and pocket rockers, just for you.

Can't wait!  Nothing like inferior audio quality pre-recorded Capitol cassette tapes!  Guess you can still look at the labels and inserts, though!   

[bgas]

Maybe I'll start posting my cassettes and pocket rockers, just for you.

Can't wait!  Nothing like inferior audio quality pre-recorded Capitol cassette tapes!  Guess you can still look at the labels and inserts, though!   

Yeah, I understand. I collect all these cause they're really cool BBs artifacts, at least to me.
You want CDs for their sound? I thought you were way past that, with all your download  sounds.

[Jaspy]

If there was a fire in my house and I had time to get out, I think I'd run and grab my Beach Boys & Beatles vinyl singles and LP's first. Then the CD's. Then my girlfriend.......

LOL. I hope for you that your girlfriend doesn't read this!