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« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2012, 06:55:15 AM »

Many of the prevailing political messages we hear are carefully calibrated to play to peoples' hidden resentments...making it very, very difficult to get past our own sense of grievance to see the other person's point of view, and reach an agreement.

Which, of course, is exactly the point.  Most of my extremely right-wing friends don't realize how identical they sound to their mortal enemies, my extreme left-wing friends.  They're concerned about a lot of the same things, but think the problem lies with the other. 

My personal opinion is it's a wonderful shell game, and a very few people are getting rich while we all point fingers at each other, get angry and beat each other up with silly-ass petty grievances and slogans.
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« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2012, 09:30:05 AM »

Odd how they didn't support Brian (Al and Carl), even though in the end, it supports Landy.

Landy was preventing Brian from communicating with Carl at the time, so Carl may not have had a choice.



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« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2012, 11:10:10 AM »

The Wilson Project offers a good read into the filming of this special as Gary Usher was there.  He described the politics involved in getting the Spirit of R&R recorded the day before the tv taping.  Since Landy was involved in the writing and producing it was a huge band controversy. As he explained it, all songs were being recorded the day before taping.  To get R&R on the show, the Beach Boys had to pre-record it.  That meant 3 Beach Boys.  It was up to the last minute whether 3 would show up based on the Landy issue. Ultimately, Mike and Bruce (who is a Beach Boy for performing and recording purposes) showed up and they and Brian were the only vocalists on the song.  Al and Carl did not participate in a stand against Landy and their vocals were not on that song on the show.
Odd how they didn't support Brian (Al and Carl), even though in the end, it supports Landy. It'd be nice if this kind of stuff was in a documentry. The Wilson Project is one of few BB/BW books I've not had a chance to read because I can't find it anywhere!  What was Gary Usher's purpose for the show? Just to help with Brian and/or Spirit of R&R?

Usher was Brian's main collaborator at the time, and a co-writer and producer of Spirit of RR.

The leads were done live over pre-recorded everything else.


I figured that's why he was there.
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« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2012, 12:57:22 AM »

Odd how they didn't support Brian (Al and Carl), even though in the end, it supports Landy.

Landy was preventing Brian from communicating with Carl at the time, so Carl may not have had a choice.




I'm reminded again of how much I still hate Landy. Yeah, I know he's deceased....and probably very warm right now Evil
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« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2012, 03:08:35 AM »

The Wilson Project offers a good read into the filming of this special as Gary Usher was there.  He described the politics involved in getting the Spirit of R&R recorded the day before the tv taping.  Since Landy was involved in the writing and producing it was a huge band controversy. As he explained it, all songs were being recorded the day before taping.  To get R&R on the show, the Beach Boys had to pre-record it.  That meant 3 Beach Boys.  It was up to the last minute whether 3 would show up based on the Landy issue. Ultimately, Mike and Bruce (who is a Beach Boy for performing and recording purposes) showed up and they and Brian were the only vocalists on the song.  Al and Carl did not participate in a stand against Landy and their vocals were not on that song on the show.
Odd how they didn't support Brian (Al and Carl), even though in the end, it supports Landy. It'd be nice if this kind of stuff was in a documentry. The Wilson Project is one of few BB/BW books I've not had a chance to read because I can't find it anywhere!  What was Gary Usher's purpose for the show? Just to help with Brian and/or Spirit of R&R?

Usher was Brian's main collaborator at the time, and a co-writer and producer of Spirit of RR.

The leads were done live over pre-recorded everything else.


I figured that's why he was there.

Little hint - your response goes outside the quote box.
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« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2012, 11:56:43 AM »

The Wilson Project offers a good read into the filming of this special as Gary Usher was there.  He described the politics involved in getting the Spirit of R&R recorded the day before the tv taping.  Since Landy was involved in the writing and producing it was a huge band controversy. As he explained it, all songs were being recorded the day before taping.  To get R&R on the show, the Beach Boys had to pre-record it.  That meant 3 Beach Boys.  It was up to the last minute whether 3 would show up based on the Landy issue. Ultimately, Mike and Bruce (who is a Beach Boy for performing and recording purposes) showed up and they and Brian were the only vocalists on the song.  Al and Carl did not participate in a stand against Landy and their vocals were not on that song on the show.
Odd how they didn't support Brian (Al and Carl), even though in the end, it supports Landy. It'd be nice if this kind of stuff was in a documentry. The Wilson Project is one of few BB/BW books I've not had a chance to read because I can't find it anywhere!  What was Gary Usher's purpose for the show? Just to help with Brian and/or Spirit of R&R?

Usher was Brian's main collaborator at the time, and a co-writer and producer of Spirit of RR.

The leads were done live over pre-recorded everything else.


I figured that's why he was there.

Little hint - your response goes outside the quote box.
ZING!

Dang, I see people make that mistake all the time...first time I do it...karma police is after me.  Wink

but really, the text box at work is really screwy whenever I type in it.
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« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2012, 06:56:41 AM »

I actually do quite enjoy the band performing Don't Worry Baby right into Getcha Back...but it only goes to show how much Getcha Back is based on the tune of Don't Worry Baby.

It's like if they performed Some of Your Love and then go right into Be True to Your School or Mike Come BAck to LA or Child of Winter...or something or another.
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