"That's Why God Made The Radio" Single!

[Autotune]

I hope the credits on all the tracks are legitimate and accurate. I recall (very vaguely, unfortunately)  a thread many moons ago in which it was implied that there's occasionally some, shall we say, negotiation over stated provenance of songs. I sure as hell don't want to be misled.

Brian on "That's Why God Made the Radio" (predicted interview response):

"Oh, my friend Joe came up with that idea, and I thought it was really cool. We sat down and worked it out -- we were done in literally 20 minutes! Twenty minutes and the song was done! It's one of my favorites. It's about how God, you know, made the radio that we all listen to. It's like that. Really good. And the guys sing it so good too."

I'll betcha that the real interview will go like this:

Q: who wrote that song?
A: Joe Thomas

[Alan Smith]

Not drubbing the song, Alholio71, Dr Lenny, it's just the feeling that we've been somewhat mislead about its status. And you could argue that that's not the case, as no-one had said anything much about it.

It's a bit like when I was a kid and my dad came home after what I'd always been told was eight years at war, only it turned out he'd spent those eight years in prison*.









* This never happened by the way.  It's just there for the sake of effect.

Not aimed at you, Sir, as I understand your position on attribution, given your line of work.

Your personal harrowing experience tells us you're more than an expert on the impact of discovering the shortcomings of one's heros *.








*I acknowledge the jailbird dad thing never happened, but it was too well played to ignore 

[Wirestone]

I hope the credits on all the tracks are legitimate and accurate. I recall (very vaguely, unfortunately)  a thread many moons ago in which it was implied that there's occasionally some, shall we say, negotiation over stated provenance of songs. I sure as hell don't want to be misled.

Brian on "That's Why God Made the Radio" (predicted interview response):

"Oh, my friend Joe came up with that idea, and I thought it was really cool. We sat down and worked it out -- we were done in literally 20 minutes! Twenty minutes and the song was done! It's one of my favorites. It's about how God, you know, made the radio that we all listen to. It's like that. Really good. And the guys sing it so good too."

I'll betcha that the real interview will go like this:

Q: who wrote that song?
A: Joe Thomas

Brian's not that honest.

Please refer to his exuberant denials of any Beach Boys reunion over the last year. He enjoys lying to press.

[The Real Barnyard]

At this point we only know that Joe Thomas and others wrote a demo of TWGMTR. Maybe later Brian & Mike have added the bridge or completed the song.
I'm thinking of Kokomo being a Phillips/McKenzie 1984 song and then mutated to the completed 1988 tune we all know and love.
Saving distances with TWGMTR I hope...

[Autotune]

I hope the credits on all the tracks are legitimate and accurate. I recall (very vaguely, unfortunately)  a thread many moons ago in which it was implied that there's occasionally some, shall we say, negotiation over stated provenance of songs. I sure as hell don't want to be misled.

Brian on "That's Why God Made the Radio" (predicted interview response):

"Oh, my friend Joe came up with that idea, and I thought it was really cool. We sat down and worked it out -- we were done in literally 20 minutes! Twenty minutes and the song was done! It's one of my favorites. It's about how God, you know, made the radio that we all listen to. It's like that. Really good. And the guys sing it so good too."

I'll betcha that the real interview will go like this:

Q: who wrote that song?
A: Joe Thomas

Brian's not that honest.

Please refer to his exuberant denials of any Beach Boys reunion over the last year. He enjoys lying to press.

Well, he's quick to quote his collaborators for the entire work, even if that credit is not due (he's done that with Andy Paley and Scotty).

[Manchini]

I can understand the disappointment, and I can also see how it's inconsequential if this song is a collaboration where BW is not the main creative element. Either way, a question: has his writer's block eased up at all? He's mentioned it a lot, the most recent I've heard being in an interview for the Gershwin album. Maybe he just doesn't have enough songs to work with. (They could, of course, reach back to old unreleased songs, but my curiosity remains.)

[Wirestone]

I can understand the disappointment, and I can also see how it's inconsequential if this song is a collaboration where BW is not the main creative element. Either way, a question: has his writer's block eased up at all? He's mentioned it a lot, the most recent I've heard being in an interview for the Gershwin album. Maybe he just doesn't have enough songs to work with. (They could, of course, reach back to old unreleased songs, but my curiosity remains.)

I think he started writing again last year, maybe a bit earlier. He started mentioning new song titles last year -- "Shelter" and "The Private Life of Bill and Sue" among them. I think this song's presence in the album simply comes from the band's (and Brian's, most likely) desire to have a hit.

It's also important to note that Brian always has sufficient songs on hand for an album -- he over-produces during his fertile periods. That is, he has several songs from the TLOS writing sessions in 2006 that have gone unreleased. He did some work with Stevie Kalinich pre-GIOMH. And in the 90s he did a bunch of things with both Tony Asher and Joe Thomas that went unreleased too.

[c-man]

Also featured some guy called David Hungate.

David Hungate was a member of Toto.

[Runaways]

i'm not bummed that there's a song on the album not written by them, that's not unsurprising at all.  it's that this is the song that has been hyped up, and now it isn't written by them?

it's the song probyn singled out.  It's the song Mike singled out.  Can we assume that this is the song that that drummer guy tweeted about too?  And what about Bruce, he said he'd been playing a Brian song over and over, so hopefully that's another tune.  i mean, talk about the songs the band wrote!!  this is like hyping up "i can hear music" instead of the other great tunes on 20/20.  

[c-man]

i'm not bummed that there's a song on the album not written by them, that's not unsurprising at all.  it's that this is the song that has been hyped up, and now it isn't written by them?

it's the song probyn singled out.  It's the song Mike singled out.  Can we assume that this is the song that that drummer guy tweeted about too?  And what about Bruce, he said he'd been playing a Brian song over and over, so hopefully that's another tune.  i mean, talk about the songs the band wrote!!  this is like hyping up "i can hear music" instead of the other great tunes on 20/20.  

We don't know how much the other guys were told about who wrote the song for/with Brian.  Maybe they just don't know.  It's likely they were presented with a bunch of new songs from Brian and Joe, and got straight to work on them, but were not given all the details. 

[Runaways]

i'm not bummed that there's a song on the album not written by them, that's not unsurprising at all.  it's that this is the song that has been hyped up, and now it isn't written by them?

it's the song probyn singled out.  It's the song Mike singled out.  Can we assume that this is the song that that drummer guy tweeted about too?  And what about Bruce, he said he'd been playing a Brian song over and over, so hopefully that's another tune.  i mean, talk about the songs the band wrote!!  this is like hyping up "i can hear music" instead of the other great tunes on 20/20.  

We don't know how much the other guys were told about who wrote the song for/with Brian.  Maybe they just don't know.  It's likely they were presented with a bunch of new songs from Brian and Joe, and got straight to work on them, but were not given all the details. 

sweet, so it seems the best song on the next beach boys album wasn't written by a beach boy, but the songwriting power house of Joe Thomas and the guy who wrote "eye of the tiger"

[c-man]

i'm not bummed that there's a song on the album not written by them, that's not unsurprising at all.  it's that this is the song that has been hyped up, and now it isn't written by them?

it's the song probyn singled out.  It's the song Mike singled out.  Can we assume that this is the song that that drummer guy tweeted about too?  And what about Bruce, he said he'd been playing a Brian song over and over, so hopefully that's another tune.  i mean, talk about the songs the band wrote!!  this is like hyping up "i can hear music" instead of the other great tunes on 20/20.  

We don't know how much the other guys were told about who wrote the song for/with Brian.  Maybe they just don't know.  It's likely they were presented with a bunch of new songs from Brian and Joe, and got straight to work on them, but were not given all the details. 

sweet, so it seems the best song on the next beach boys album wasn't written by a beach boy, but the songwriting power house of Joe Thomas and the guy who wrote "eye of the tiger"

Well, what if it turns out Russ Titeleman and not Brian started, or even wrote most of, Guess I'm Dumb and/or Sherri She Needs Me (or Gary Usher with In My Room)?  Those are still stunning BW tracks.  And, those two guys got Brian a semi-hit in the late nineties (one I still hear occasionally piped into offices and retail stores), and it wasn't all bad.

[Wirestone]

If the song is good, and if it has identifiable contributions from Brian (a quirky bridge, cool harmonies, etc., etc.), I predict that all will be forgiven.

I'm also a huge Your Imagination fan, so I guess I should be happier about this. 

[vintagemusic]

I'm not bummed that there's a song on the album not written by them, that's not unsurprising at all. it's that this is the song that has been hyped up, and now it isn't written by them?

it's the song probyn singled out.  It's the song Mike singled out.  Can we assume that this is the song that that drummer guy tweeted about too?  And what about Bruce, he said he'd been playing a Brian song over and over, so hopefully that's another tune.  i mean, talk about the songs the band wrote!!  this is like hyping up "i can hear music" instead of the other great tunes on 20/20.  

We don't know how much the other guys were told about who wrote the song for/with Brian.  Maybe they just don't know.  It's likely they were presented with a bunch of new songs from Brian and Joe, and got straight to work on them, but were not given all the details. 

sweet, so it seems the best song on the next beach boys album wasn't written by a beach boy, but the songwriting power house of Joe Thomas and the guy who wrote "eye of the tiger"

All those Eye of the tiger, Survivor Scotti Brothers people, were totally mobbed up, very bad vibes, complete total  stereotype Mafia,,, the Italian kind. Hey we hate to see you're health suffer,  that's the most important, thing capiche? take care of your health, now about these papers, my fiend's, Johnny Musso, Mr Scotti
we'd like you to sign these papers.


SO long story short, if this is where Joe Thomas and his musicians originated, it's almost as bad as another Dennis And Charlie Manson kind of thing.
But you know pop stars, for example put out a record written by their pal Charlie Manson, and suffer no consequences except maybe some jokes
at their expense. If Joe Thomas is hooked up with that old Scotti Brothers eye of the tiger crowd, well, I just lost about 60% of my interest in the
whole thing. It begs another question as well., Those kind of people wouldn't be beyond, taking songs from demo tapes, roadies, students, passerby
people they lock in closets... very very very bad karma to be involved with those people., and call this a creative artistic endeavor, of all the just typically
sketchy people in the music biz, to voluntarily   sign up to work with that crowd, you gotta be on heavy melds or owe somebody a piece of your income
for services rendered in the past...

That may all sound kooky and dramatic, but I'm telling you   straight up, the origins of those people are the Mob, it's common knowledge, it's not even
debatable. One of them threatened me  right in the building on Sunset, talked about your health (my health) why don't you do this. God knows who
actually wrote that song. If that's it's provenance.

[Jaspy]

Have to say, after thinking 'Oh-oh' for a second, I'm now even more optimistic about the potential of this song. Everybody says it's great. Brian doesn't write hits anymore, perhaps this song is just what the BB need now. It was written for them and seems to be fantastic. Exactly what the BB need now to kick off their tour and promote the new album.

And to be true, I guess I'm not the only one to wonder sometimes how many of his solo songs Brian did really write by himself or without a little or more than a little help of his friends since, let's say the mid 80's. God, even Brian's autobiography was ghost-written. But that's business, the music business, I think we shouldn't forget that. Brian the genius. People want Brian written and produced records, people get Brian written and produced records, even if in reality he just was a co-writer and co-producer. "Midnight's Another Day" was a left-over from the Landy-era, who knows who was involved in writing it, in re-writing it, how much Scott Bennett added etc.

Can't wait!

[Wirestone]

"Midnight's Another Day" was a left-over from the Landy-era.

I think you've got your songs confused. MAD was co-written by Brian and Scott in '06 -- they took turns working it out at the piano, according to Scott.

"California Role," on the other hand, is taken from a Landy-era song called "Wondering What You're Up to Now" that Scott totally reworked as a movie-business song. Brian didn't tell him the melody was old, though. AGD did.  

[Jaspy]

"Midnight's Another Day" was a left-over from the Landy-era.

I think you've got your songs confused. MAD was co-written by Brian and Scott in '06 -- they took turns working it out at the piano, according to Scott.

"California Role," on the other hand, is taken from a Landy-era song called "Wondering What You're Up to Now" that Scott totally reworked as a movie-business song. Brian didn't tell him the melody was old, though. AGD did.  

Really? That's funny.

Ok. I thought I read somewhere that MAD originally was a fast rock song they reworked to what it is now. MAD a new collaboration? I happily stay corrected!

[Wirestone]

"Midnight's Another Day" was a left-over from the Landy-era.

I think you've got your songs confused. MAD was co-written by Brian and Scott in '06 -- they took turns working it out at the piano, according to Scott.

"California Role," on the other hand, is taken from a Landy-era song called "Wondering What You're Up to Now" that Scott totally reworked as a movie-business song. Brian didn't tell him the melody was old, though. AGD did.  

Really? That's funny.

Ok. I thought I read somewhere that MAD originally was a fast rock song they reworked to what it is now. MAD a new collaboration? I happily stay corrected!

I heard the fast song reworked thing too, but not that it was Landy era. But after stumbling across an interview of Scott by AGD, though, it seems a little more straightforward.

Andrew: "Midnight" is just staggeringly beautiful, probably the best new work Brian has done since the early 70s - what was your role in creating such a gem ?

Scott: We traded seats at the piano until we had a cool intro-outro, verse pre-chorus, chorus and bridge. We knew it was special and spiritual, and after Brian showed me his lyric ideas for "Oxygen", I knew it would be OK to write the introspective words that this song needed.

http://www.beachboysbritain.org.uk/index.php/past-interviews.html

[seltaeb1012002]

If Brian OK'd it, that means he put his stamp on it, and therefore.. I'm cool with it. I admire that he's looking to have a contemporary sounding hit record this late in the game. Hit records have always been on his mind.. and being open to cutting other writers songs shows me that he's still competitive in that sense.

"Your Imagination" is a well-written, well-produced record. Featuring some of Brian's best harmony arrangements. (Ok, could've lived without the AC touches) And it was a minor hit...But, think about it. If that had been the lead single for a Beach Boys reunion at the time.. it would've been monsterous.

If "Your Imagination", and all the hype around "TWGMTR" is any indication, I say we give the guy a break, and give him props for putting ego aside and recognizing a great song for his band. If it has the official BW co-sign, we're most likely in for a big treat. (American Spring anyone?)

I can't wait to hear it (and the rest of the album)!

[runnersdialzero]

god must have spent a little more time on the radio

[Freddie French-Pounce]

Other than being a disappointment from a "perfect ending to the story" kind of perspective....

And Summer In Paradise was? 

[The Shift]

Other than being a disappointment from a "perfect ending to the story" kind of perspective....

And Summer In Paradise was? 

Excellent point. Tipping point, in fact. No more scab-scratching, let's be open-minded again.

[vintagemusic]

i'm not bummed that there's a song on the album not written by them, that's not unsurprising at all.  it's that this is the song that has been hyped up, and now it isn't written by them?

it's the song probyn singled out.  It's the song Mike singled out.  Can we assume that this is the song that that drummer guy tweeted about too?  And what about Bruce, he said he'd been playing a Brian song over and over, so hopefully that's another tune.  i mean, talk about the songs the band wrote!!  this is like hyping up "i can hear music" instead of the other great tunes on 20/20.  

We don't know how much the other guys were told about who wrote the song for/with Brian.  Maybe they just don't know.  It's likely they were presented with a bunch of new songs from Brian and Joe, and got straight to work on them, but were not given all the details. 

sweet, so it seems the best song on the next beach boys album wasn't written by a beach boy, but the songwriting power house of Joe Thomas and the guy who wrote "eye of the tiger"

That Eye of the Tiger guy you speak of, Joe Peterik, was of course backed by Tony Scotti,,,,notorious mobbed up record executive, who claims to
be the son of Lucky Luciano, why the Beach Boys would willingly be involved with people from this crowd, I don't get it.

Here is a link with a long article from the New York Observer, with plenty of Quotes directly from Tony Scotti the long tie mentor of

Joe Peternik who apparently wrote, or gets credit for writing, the forthcoming Beach Boys single "that's Why God Made The Radio"
here is a story on his mentor Tony Scotti, mobster record man, from his own lips in the New York Observer.

http://www.observer.com/2000/04/my-pal-anthony-scptti-tells-me-hes-really-lucky-luciano-jr/


Scotti goes on to present scary bodyguards, make threats, explain conspiracies between area 51 the aliens, and himself..
This is the man the mafia guy, who mentored the guy who wrote "that's why God Made the radio"

These people are apparently all involved with Joe Thomas,   these are the people the Beach Boys involved for their swan song 50Th anniversary
album and tour.. If you think it's a joke just read the article and then do some google searches on the mob and Scotti Brothers, Anthony Scotti.,
cross check that with Joe Thomas and Joe Peternik, it's not rocket science, it's fairly easy to start piecing it together.

Of all the talented people in the world, this is who the Beach Boys are getting in bed with

Why ? This is the very antithesis of    Good Vibrations that's for sure

[Andrew G. Doe]

Why ?

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[anazgnos]

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