The Stephen Desper Thread
king of anglia:
Quote from: brother john on January 02, 2006, 05:09:21 AM
Mr Desper,
I've listened again to the two versions of Surf's Up, and absorbed your comments, and in a compare and contrast kind of way have found a few intriguing thing.....
You could always collapse the 2 tracks (Box-Set and Surf's Up album versions) to mono, synch them up and invert one. It may reveal the differences between the 2.
brother john:
Thankyou Stephen, very much...
OK, I have just one more comment/question on this...
The swelling noise I mentioned and which you described as 'below noise level adjacent track leakage from unused tracks' (but from an unused track...? I don't know enough to understand this I don't think) is very apparent on the box set version of Surf's Up (track) but all but absent from the twofer with Sunflower (2000, 24-bit remaster). Can you explain this? I guess the only way to hear it the way it should be is to listen to the original 12" LP version, though in the UK these tend to be scarce and pricey.
Thanks again for your time and wisdom,
B.J.
andy:
I'm not Stephen, but I know the noise you're talking about.
I always assumed it was a slow swell from a crash cymbal emulating a tidal wave. Do you remember that happening by chance, Stephen?
Stephen W. Desper:
Quote from: king of anglia on January 02, 2006, 07:16:21 AM
Quote from: brother john on January 02, 2006, 05:09:21 AM
Mr Desper,
I've listened again to the two versions of Surf's Up, and absorbed your comments, and in a compare and contrast kind of way have found a few intriguing thing.....
You could always collapse the 2 tracks (Box-Set and Surf's Up album versions) to mono, synch them up and invert one. It may reveal the differences between the 2.
It will only result in amplitude differences, not temporal differences. ~swd
Stephen W. Desper:
Quote from: brother john on January 02, 2006, 07:54:56 AM
Thankyou Stephen, very much...
OK, I have just one more comment/question on this...
The swelling noise I mentioned and which you described as 'below noise level adjacent track leakage from unused tracks' (but from an unused track...? I don't know enough to understand this I don't think) is very apparent on the box set version of Surf's Up (track) but all but absent from the twofer with Sunflower (2000, 24-bit remaster). Can you explain this? I guess the only way to hear it the way it should be is to listen to the original 12" LP version, though in the UK these tend to be scarce and pricey.
I hope I understand what you are talking about.
The leakage is on the multitrack. It's below noise, so when the twofer was made they used one of the digital noise cancellation algorythms (NONOISE) to remove some analog hiss, and along with that took out the leakage with the noise along with analog beauty.
The UK LP is one generation removed from its USA counterpart. The most pure form is an early issue USA LP. The only release approved by Carl and myself. ~swd
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