SMiLE A.D. v2.0: A Revised Stereo Mix.

[seltaeb1012002]

But back to seltaeb's mix. Thank you for your efforts and for sharing your ideas. You are obviously a very creative individual and I especially enjoyed your Elements. The transition from Fire to IWBA is quite dreamy.

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!

I don't get why you went to all the trouble to make Our Prayer sound so bad though. A creative choice I suppose- do you care to explain it?

As far as Our Prayer goes:

I really wanted to get a stereo mix going for the '66 version, minus the '68 overdubs. I went with the TSS mix w/stereo reverb on the 1st edition. Could've went with the 20/20 version, but that's too typical.

So, the only other options I had were:
1) To sync pieces of the Prayer session with the mono mix. But that wouldn't have worked, due to lack of material.
2) To try and isolate all of the different vocal parts, and pan them out.

I went with 2. I really didn't think Melodyne would be able to sense all the parts, but sure enough it did. I knew right away that the quality was gonna suffer. But for sheer coolness of being able to hear all the different vocal parts isolated, I decided to go ahead and start the process.
It took a lot of editing to make it sound as good as it does now. There were entire notes missing all over the place.

I threw the vinyl crackle on there and made the quality even worse. Kinda gave me the feeling that I was listening to some rare 10th generation cassette dub of a Durrie Parks acetate or something. 

So, yeah the quality suffers, but it's still a very cool listen. I definitely recommend a headphones listen for that one.

Have you taken a stab at folding the "ribbon of concrete" vocals from BWPS into your mix? I'd be interested in having that if you are ever successful
I also liked the H&V horns added to Barnyard, but you might have overdone it just a bit. Still, it's a very original mix.

Cool, I'll keep that in mind re: Ribbon Of Concrete.
Yeah, Barnyard's a tough one. I think I've made about 10 mixes of that one so far, haha. I'm determined to get that thing sounding like a record!
 

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

if you're interested i've made a stereo chorus mix using fragments from yours and others mixes.

Sure man!

http://www.mediafire.com/?kbvpu5p0i60izeg

Just for you to check out

[RadBooley]

Hiya,
Loved the first version of SMiLE AD you put out and the second version is great as well! Only comments I have are...
-I sort of miss the definition of Our Prayer in the beginning. I get that it jives better with the bit of vinyl crackle that ends the album but, well-- to me, I've always been trying to get SMiLE material in better quality and it just seemed like an odd choice to sort of regress a little on that.
-Also, any reason why you went with the alternate intro to Heroes and Villains versus the one on the album and the single? I think it sounds a lot smoother and punchier than how the alternate version began.

Great work as always, though! And I love your remade stereo version of Look too!

[robertgotshall]

Nice work! Great sync of Surf's Up. The main reason I'm not happy with TSS stereo mix of Surf's Up is the sync (along with Carl's vocal), which is a shame because it sounds so good otherwise.

I noticed that you were working on a vocals only Surf's Up at one point. Are you finished with that and do you plan on offering it in the future?

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

I think someone should use Tune X to make a Surf's Up Part 2, I was so close, but I got stuck.

[seltaeb1012002]

Hiya,
Loved the first version of SMiLE AD you put out and the second version is great as well! Only comments I have are...
-I sort of miss the definition of Our Prayer in the beginning. I get that it jives better with the bit of vinyl crackle that ends the album but, well-- to me, I've always been trying to get SMiLE material in better quality and it just seemed like an odd choice to sort of regress a little on that.
-Also, any reason why you went with the alternate intro to Heroes and Villains versus the one on the album and the single? I think it sounds a lot smoother and punchier than how the alternate version began.

Great work as always, though! And I love your remade stereo version of Look too!

Thanks for listening!
Yeah, Prayer was just an experiment. Really, a lot of this stuff is. Hopefully one day technology will reach a point to where we can extract stuff like the Prayer vocals in higher quality.
Although this extraction definitely served a purpose in the "Look" mix. That one falsetto line Brian sings is probably my favorite extraction thus far.

Nice work! Great sync of Surf's Up. The main reason I'm not happy with TSS stereo mix of Surf's Up is the sync (along with Carl's vocal), which is a shame because it sounds so good otherwise.

I noticed that you were working on a vocals only Surf's Up at one point. Are you finished with that and do you plan on offering it in the future?

Definitely. I'd like to get my own sync of just the vocals going. I have a feeling "Surf's Up" is gonna get a nice treatment for 3.0 

I think someone should use Tune X to make a Surf's Up Part 2, I was so close, but I got stuck.

Hmmmm. 

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

haha, there's an idea for 3.0!

Honestly, it fit pretty well without melody changing!

[Summertime Blooz]

This version of Cabinessence sounds splendid. I feel I can hear every vocal part and instrument with unprecedented seperation. Thank you.

[Domino]

"Permission Denied" on the mp3s.

[Lonelysea30]

Yea me too

[seltaeb1012002]

"Permission Denied" on the mp3s.

Yea me too

Apologies for the delay. Here's the latest version (4.0) - http://www.sendspace.com/file/tub01h

I plan on completing 5.0 sometime within the next few months. A few of the things I'm tackling:

1) Surf's Up - with the Tune X strings on part 2

2) levels / mix-quality adjustments

3) new attempts at some of the extractions in higher quality

[leggo of my ego]

"Permission Denied" on the mp3s.

Yea me too

Apologies for the delay. Here's the latest version (4.0) - http://www.sendspace.com/file/tub01h

I plan on completing 5.0 sometime within the next few months. A few of the things I'm tackling:

1) Surf's Up - with the Tune X strings on part 2

2) levels / mix-quality adjustments

3) new attempts at some of the extractions in higher quality

Why does SendSpace have its own downloader?
Its not very fast -- Down it All one Click in Mozilla can get ave. speeds of 300kb sec
while sendspace is hovering between 30-75kb.  yawn!

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Dat Surf's Up. Please do it. I tried and failed, seeing that idea pan out would be mindblowing.

[seltaeb1012002]

Dat Surf's Up. Please do it. I tried and failed, seeing that idea pan out would be mindblowing.

That one's almost done. There's some artifacts but it definitely gives you a sense of what it could have sounded like. Good call on that one.

If anyone else has any suggestions for 5.0 I'm all ears. Definitely looking for new ideas to make 5.0 different from the previous versions.

[bgas]

"Permission Denied" on the mp3s.

Yea me too

Apologies for the delay. Here's the latest version (4.0) - http://www.sendspace.com/file/tub01h

I plan on completing 5.0 sometime within the next few months. A few of the things I'm tackling:

1) Surf's Up - with the Tune X strings on part 2

2) levels / mix-quality adjustments

3) new attempts at some of the extractions in higher quality

Why does SendSpace have its own downloader?
Its not very fast -- Down it All one Click in Mozilla can get ave. speeds of 300kb sec
while sendspace is hovering between 30-75kb.  yawn!

How do I find that to use it?

[EgoHanger1966]

If anyone else has any suggestions for 5.0 I'm all ears. Definitely looking for new ideas to make 5.0 different from the previous versions.

I'd love to hear an extended (maybe even just slightly) Barnyard on your 5.0.

Have you ever thought of flying in harmonies or vocals from other BB records (non-SMiLE Sessions) into one of your A.D mixes? That might be a little too far out!

[hypehat]

May be tricky, but the 'third section' of Dada (you know, the take breaks down on some CIFOTM sh*t in the Part 2 track) appears to exist as a piano track played by BW on a CCW track on the box set. Any chance you could work with that and sorta 'complete' it? (I realise this sounds kinda a massive undertaking)

Also, a version of You're Welcome that utilises the dumb vocals they do at the end of the session  

[seltaeb1012002]

If anyone else has any suggestions for 5.0 I'm all ears. Definitely looking for new ideas to make 5.0 different from the previous versions.

I'd love to hear an extended (maybe even just slightly) Barnyard on your 5.0.

Have you ever thought of flying in harmonies or vocals from other BB records (non-SMiLE Sessions) into one of your A.D mixes? That might be a little too far out!

Cool cool, I'll see what I can do with Barnyard. I wanna revamp Heroes entirely. Kinda tempted to string together a version based on Andy's description of the DP acetates, but at the same time, I kinda wanna leave an element of surprise when they finally leak. Decisions, decisions. I definitely do want to base more stuff off of BW's test mixes though.

As far as harmonies.. yeah for sure, as long as they're from the "golden era" with all of the original voices in tact. Do you have any specific ideas?

May be tricky, but the 'third section' of Dada (you know, the take breaks down on some CIFOTM sh*t in the Part 2 track) appears to exist as a piano track played by BW on a CCW track on the box set. Any chance you could work with that and sorta 'complete' it? (I realise this sounds kinda a massive undertaking)

Also, a version of You're Welcome that utilises the dumb vocals they do at the end of the session 

Re: Dada - That's what the f*ck I'm talking about! Will mess with this for sure.

Re: You're Welcome - Hmm, interesting. I'll check it out!


Btw, I just started re-extracting BW's lead on "Wonderful" last night. This time I did it from the 96000 Hz vinyl transfer. The quality difference is pretty awesome. Can't wait to finish it and let you guys hear it.

[EgoHanger1966]

Re: flown in harmonies - possibly something like the Don't Talk unreleased b/g vox, or the Spanish b/gs from IJWMFTT?

[leggo of my ego]

If anyone else has any suggestions for 5.0 I'm all ears. Definitely looking for new ideas to make 5.0 different from the previous versions.

I'd love to hear an extended (maybe even just slightly) Barnyard on your 5.0.

Have you ever thought of flying in harmonies or vocals from other BB records (non-SMiLE Sessions) into one of your A.D mixes? That might be a little too far out!

Cool cool, I'll see what I can do with Barnyard. I wanna revamp Heroes entirely. Kinda tempted to string together a version based on Andy's description of the DP acetates, but at the same time, I kinda wanna leave an element of surprise when they finally leak. Decisions, decisions. I definitely do want to base more stuff off of BW's test mixes though.

As far as harmonies.. yeah for sure, as long as they're from the "golden era" with all of the original voices in tact. Do you have any specific ideas?

May be tricky, but the 'third section' of Dada (you know, the take breaks down on some CIFOTM sh*t in the Part 2 track) appears to exist as a piano track played by BW on a CCW track on the box set. Any chance you could work with that and sorta 'complete' it? (I realise this sounds kinda a massive undertaking)

Also, a version of You're Welcome that utilises the dumb vocals they do at the end of the session 

Re: Dada - That's what the f*ck I'm talking about! Will mess with this for sure.

Re: You're Welcome - Hmm, interesting. I'll check it out!


Btw, I just started re-extracting BW's lead on "Wonderful" last night. This time I did it from the 96000 Hz vinyl transfer. The quality difference is pretty awesome. Can't wait to finish it and let you guys hear it.

Very Good! This is first radically different SMiLE mix I have heard -- Your ideas are similar to some of my own but what I have mixed is pretty elementary, going thru my collection and finding the discarded bits (like "Dont Talk yodel" bg voc.) and adding them back to the track. 

So far I've just listened to S2.0 on my PC but I will burn a CD so I can hear on the main system.

Will you make WAV or FLAC files of it available?? Thanks for the extra effort you put into these mixes!

 

[Dudd]

Love this! Wonderfully creative... you add your own unique touch to each track. Essential stuff for Smiley Smilers!

[Nile]

Love the work you're putting into these mixes!
How about something completely straight regarding heroes? verse, a cappela break down with  verse music in the background, cantina with swedish frog in the background, quick children, 3 sore and 5, stand or fall, barbershop part, and maybe intro at the last note 'by the heroes and'? or finish wit mission pak and fade to pt1-piano part..
Love to hear somethnig like this but since i'm no expert cant seem to get it right!

Laso, loved your HV-DYDW mix from few months back. I think that's the road than BW would have taken for these songs in december 66 if he had support from others and ...well a lot of other stufff.

[bonnevillemariner]

I'm a little confused about where all this stuff is at and what some of your titles mean, so forgive me if this question is totally out of the ballpark (or if I'm asking the entirely wrong person).  I'm also not a Smile expert, so...

I was on the beachboyssmilead website and listened to the "Look" mix.  I recognized the section that sounds like it comes partially from "Good Vibrations" (da-da-da-da-da - da-da-da...) but more extended.  But I can't figure out where you got the light vocal from that section from.  Is that vocal from one of the Smile Sessions tracks or a bootleg?

[seltaeb1012002]

Love the work you're putting into these mixes!
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Thanks, glad you're enjoying them!

loved your HV-DYDW mix from few months back. I think that's the road than BW would have taken for these songs in december 66 if he had support from others and ...well a lot of other stufff.

Yeah, I wanted to get a vintage feel going for that version of H&V using the early unreleased test mixes. The biggest thing to me though was ending it with the "part 1 tag", which we have to assume was definitely gonna be the ending of the song at some point. Maybe with the Durry Parks acetate version of "Great Shape", we have something close to what would have been part 1. Who knows, it's all fun. I just like hearing alternate versions of these songs.

I'm a little confused about where all this stuff is at and what some of your titles mean, so forgive me if this question is totally out of the ballpark (or if I'm asking the entirely wrong person).  I'm also not a Smile expert, so...

I was on the beachboyssmilead website and listened to the "Look" mix.  I recognized the section that sounds like it comes partially from "Good Vibrations" (da-da-da-da-da - da-da-da...) but more extended.  But I can't figure out where you got the light vocal from that section from.  Is that vocal from one of the Smile Sessions tracks or a bootleg?

I isolated the "na na na na" from Good Vibrations, and re-pitched and re-algined it to fit the Look bridge melody.

[bonnevillemariner]

I isolated the "na na na na" from Good Vibrations, and re-pitched and re-algined it to fit the Look bridge melody.

Nice!  Wish I would have asked you that a long time ago, since I've been pouring thru TSS the last few weeks looking for that vocal.  Excellent mix there.

My only criticism of what I've heard so far is the really heavy use of the "Child is the father..." refrain.  (Of course I may just be over-perceptive of this refrain because it's my least favorite part of Smile.)