TSS vs 91 Box

[jimmy1949]

Hi, Jimmy! Don't worry about the insensitive people such as Mr. Doe. He is often seen frequenting backstage at Brian Wilson shows and the stage hands look at each other whispering "isn't that the British pansy who enjoys getting pistol-whipped by Bruce Johnstain in the bathtub while he farts into his tape recorder?". Perhaps if he could get the gun out of his rectum he might be a little nicer to new posters?

And nice to have you here!

That is pretty rough on Mr Doe but pretty f***ing funny regardless

[The Heartical Don]

My earlier retort was for Jimmy's use of the non-word "alot", which for some reason bugs the crap outta me when I see people use it in a sentence. I don't know why - I'm not an English teacher.  A lot of people still write it that way though!

You are right, Mikie, I see that alot.

 

I should of thought of that reply. But still: all newbies are potential freinds, do not forget that. They're soitanly not a seperate entity. We're not at war here.

[Mr. Wilson]

Sorry Mikie.Ive been reading your posts since about 2000,Didn't mean to turn your face read.How about the other messages boards on BB fan club links. Smile shop etc..And your probably right about it being 5th street..The recording studio..Unmarked but didn't it  have a marking or a gold record or something in the back alley. In 76-77 DW was recording POB and he used to eat at a little coffee shop up the block.Met him numerous times..I got the address from the back of the 15 Big Ones lp..Memory a little fuzzy.You walked in the front door and there was a small reception area with pics of BB in frames behind the lady upfront + some of those were used in the concert books.Lived in Glendale at the time + used to go to Santa Monica beach alot +BB recording studio was allways a place i stoped before + after i went to beach

[Mikie]

And your probably right about it being 5th street..The recording studio..Unmarked but didn't it  have a marking or a gold record or something in the back alley.

Yep! In front of the back door. A Surfin' U.S.A gold record.

In 76-77 DW was recording POB and he used to eat at a little coffee shop up the block.Met him numerous times..I got the address from the back of the 15 Big Ones lp..Memory a little fuzzy.You walked in the front door and there was a small reception area with pics of BB in frames behind the lady upfront + some of those were used in the concert books.Lived in Glendale at the time + used to go to Santa Monica beach alot +BB recording studio was allways a place i stoped before + after i went to beach

VERY cool, Mr. Wilson. I think I got the address from the album cover too!  I think Ed Roach's ex was the receptionist, wasn't she? I know she worked there and I think even sang on Dennis' record.

[Camus]

As others have said, the mastering for the TSS set is much, much better.  Essentially they are different mixes and are much rawer.  For example, the transition from Vegetables to Do A Lot is very rough, Vegetables stops, pause and then Do A Lot starts.  The sequences of some songs are different, Vege-Tables and Windchimes are the most obvious.  There are no fly in vocals, so Love To Say Da Da for instance only has the low vocal line.  The Smile tracks are:

Our Prayer (this is the undubbed Smile era recording and IIRC a dry mix with little reverb)
Heroes and Villains (Cantina version) exactly the same as H&V Part One on TSS but mastering not as good
Heroes and Villains Sections (identical to the TSS but mono and mastering not as good)
Wonderful (same version as TSS without the yodel fly ins)
Cabinessence 20/20 version
Wind Chimes (different mix most notably the piano coda is an alt take than the TSS disc 1 mix)
Heroes and Villains (Intro) (now used as the first section of Fire)
Do You Like Worms (different mix, no vocals on the verses not sure if the bicycle rider vocals are on the second chorus or not)
Vegetables (different mix and very roughly edited together)
I Love to Say Da Da (No fly in vocals, only original low vocal line)
Surf's Up (1966 piano demo IIRC a dry mix)

Hope that helps a bit.  I can appreciate that the track list is available quickly by doing a google search, but unless you've heard them you wouldn't know the differences.

[jimmy1949]

Thanks Camus

[JohnMill]

There are also some subtle (and not so subtle) differences between the "Heroes And Villains (Sections)" on the GV box when compared to TSS. 

[Roger Ryan]

There are also some subtle (and not so subtle) differences between the "Heroes And Villains (Sections)" on the GV box when compared to TSS. 

Exactly -  one of my favorite surprises on TSS was that "Heroes & Villains (Sections)" was new and improved with an edit/mix that made it feel much more like a finished song in its own right.