"I Was Made to Love Her" on Wild Honey and Carol Kaye's claims
DonnyL:
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 04, 2011, 12:15:12 AM
Did you actually read this part of my post - "I don't dispute she was an iconic bass player in the LA studio scene and her contribution to to literally hundreds, thousands of classic songs is rightly lauded. She is unquestionably a legend." - ?
Actually, we're talking about someone who says she played on a mess of Motown hits, The Doors "Light My Fire" and "Surfin' USA" and "Surf City" when the AFM contracts say she didn't (e.g Surf City AFM).
sometimes people believe things that are not true. and i don't think the 'facts' of the '60s are black & white.
Andrew G. Doe:
Quote from: DonnyL on December 04, 2011, 12:33:35 AM
Well, I don't think it's a good idea to fight fire with fire. This is a public forum and many here are making disrespectful & offensive statements quite casually. It just reeks, that's all.
Ah... so CK can call me a liar, a thief and a phony on her website forum, and drag my mother into the nonsense purely to try and make me look small, and that's OK, but when I reply in kind by calling her a proven liar according to the very AFM contracts she holds as near-gospel, that's disrespectful and offensive ?
You're related to her, aren't you ? I'll bet she could come over to your place, break the windows, steal your car and set fire to the house and that'd be OK with you because hey, it's Carol Kaye, and you have the utmost respect for her. I may be a picky historian, but I'm not blinkered that badly.
Carol Kaye says she has never visited Detroit. All the Motown hits she claims to have played on were recorded in Detroit. End of argument.
Awesoman:
Quote from: DonnyL on December 04, 2011, 12:33:35 AM
Well, I don't think it's a good idea to fight fire with fire. This is a public forum and many here are making disrespectful & offensive statements quite casually. It just reeks, that's all.
Hear, hear. I always get amused at how my fellow Beach Boys fans like to take things so personally. Carol Kaye wants to believe she played bass on everyone's tracks? Fine. Her living in her fantasy land don't bother me none. Sure, she said some nasty things directed at AGD. But there is a simple reason for that: she's crazy. And you can't fix crazy.
DonnyL:
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 04, 2011, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: DonnyL on December 04, 2011, 12:33:35 AM
Well, I don't think it's a good idea to fight fire with fire. This is a public forum and many here are making disrespectful & offensive statements quite casually. It just reeks, that's all.
Ah... so CK can call me a liar, a thief and a phony on her website forum, and drag my mother into the nonsense purely to try and make me look small, and that's OK, but when I reply in kind by calling her a proven liar according to the very AFM contracts she holds as near-gospel, that's disrespectful and offensive ?
You're related to her, aren't you ? I'll bet she could come over to your place, break the windows, steal your car and set fire to the house and that'd be OK with you because hey, it's Carol Kaye, and you have the utmost respect for her. I may be a picky historian, but I'm not blinkered that badly.
Carol Kaye says she has never visited Detroit. All the Motown hits she claims to have played on were recorded in Detroit. End of argument.
nah, i wasn't really talking about you, but some of the others. but you are a little hot-headed, as least on the internet. i'm sure you're a nice guy in real life. i am too.
no relation to Carol; the only person in the Beach Boys world I know if real life and would consider a personal friend is Durrie Parks, who is a very sweet lady incidentally.
The Heartical Don:
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 04, 2011, 12:15:12 AM
Did you actually read this part of my post - "I don't dispute she was an iconic bass player in the LA studio scene and her contribution to to literally hundreds, thousands of classic songs is rightly lauded. She is unquestionably a legend." - ?
Actually, we're talking about someone who says she played on a mess of Motown hits, The Doors "Light My Fire" and "Surfin' USA" and "Surf City" when the AFM contracts say she didn't (e.g Surf City AFM).
Good points, well made. Perhaps the upshot of it all must be: she's a great artist, and also a pathological liar. The latter means: for the last decade or so, she can't act otherwise, kind of a compulsion. Which does not diminish the gravity of the insults she spreads around.
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