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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2011, 12:40:25 PM »

Go for sure. Not sure of your meaning 'I have verified' though.

I simply mean that I have verified that The Grammys are to include a reunion of a legendary band.  However, I have no idea who that is going to be.  It isn't hard to verify the reunion as it has been announced, though right now the band name is being withheld.  Since I hadn't seen the announcement online and didn't care to look for it, I simply spoke to someone I know who confirmed the announcement.  In other words, I don't know anything you can't find online.  If anyone can confirms it is The Beach Boys please do.

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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2011, 12:43:34 PM »

Here is the official announcement that there will be a reunion of a legendary band:

http://www.grammy.com/news/valerie-simpson-mike-stoller-and-usher-to-team-for-grammy-nominee-special

And here is the post from The Grammys twitter page that indicates it will be Van Halen (this comment is the basis of all claims that it will be Van Halen):

https://twitter.com/#!/TheGRAMMYs/statuses/132257028172288001

But then this article pretty much says Van Halen will not be performing at The Grammys:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/van-halen-sign-to-interscope-reports-20111114

So we know straight from the Grammys there will be a reunion of a legendary band...but we don't know who it will be.

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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2011, 01:19:11 PM »

Sounds interesting!


'will feature a special live announcement from a truly iconic group regarding their historic band reunion'
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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2011, 01:23:11 PM »

Truly iconic group= The Beach Boys Wink
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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2011, 01:26:56 PM »

We'll know 'who' that band is in five days.
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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2011, 01:27:26 PM »

Thanks mps !!

I seriously don't care about Van Halen
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2011, 01:38:11 PM »

It's Van Halen. They've got a new album in the can and they'll be touring again soon.
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2011, 01:56:37 PM »

Van Halen were great at what they did (first album in particular) but "truly iconic"?

BB reunion at the Grammys would be very interesting to say the least.
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2011, 02:03:39 PM »

It's Van Halen. They've got a new album in the can and they'll be touring again soon.

Could be the Beach Boys. They've got a new album in the can and they'll be touring again soon. LOL
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« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2011, 02:50:43 PM »

It's gonna be Van Halen, you can't take that twitter message any other way

Still, as long as The Beach Boys are at the Grammys, that's all that matters

Edit..

Just saw The Rolling Stone article was long after the twitter post, hmmm, then the press release was after that..

Complicated, but still we have hope  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2011, 02:52:32 PM »

Rocker: I don't care about Van Halen either, I was trying to communicate all pertinent info as to whether or not it is going to be The Beach Boys.

Jason: To clarify, the link below states it will not be Van Halen, at least according to a source at Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/van-halen-sign-to-interscope-reports-20111114

Also, I don't think Van Halen could be called "truly iconic".  I could understand someone referencing them as "iconic" but "truly iconic", to me, is like saying, "We aren't talking about possibly inconic bands such as Van Halen, Black Sabbath, etc., but rather truly iconic bands, like The Beatles, The Beach Boys, The Rolling Stones, etc."  Futher, there is little that is "historic" about a Van Halen reunion.  First, as far as I can tell, the VH reunion will not include Michael Anthony so its not really a reunion (see next point).  Second, the current lineup just toured a few years ago so there is nothing historic about them reuniting, even for an album.  Third, VH has already reunited, made an album, etc.  They can't announce what they've already announced and done.  I am pretty sure it is not VH.

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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2011, 02:54:12 PM »

It's gonna be Van Halen, you can't take that twitter message any other way

Still, as long as The Beach Boys are at the Grammys, that's all that matters

Edit..

Just saw The Rolling Stone article was long after the twitter post, hmmm, then the press release was after that..

Complicated, but still we have hope  Grin

There are other ways to take the Twitter message.  The guy was asking who people thought it would be and threw out VH as a suggestion.  Trust me, Recording Academy employees are not permitted to breath a word of this.  If he was annoucing the act the post would have been pulled and he would have been fired.  The post wasn't pulled and he wasn't fired.  The existence of the post indicates that it isn't VH.
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« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2011, 03:17:30 PM »

Keep in mind Al's interview back in Feb, the same story he broke the news of the SMiLE release.

'I would like to see us doing the Grammys this year as a Lifetime Achievement situation, but unfortunately that’s not gonna happen because the group would rather start next year, so that gives me a year to prepare.

So for 2012 we hope to kick-off the Grammys, then a worldwide tour.  I think you’ll get a chance to see us live, because it will be quite a coming-out party in 2012.

Brian’s team has been very encouraging; we just have to figure out how to do it, you know, who will the players be and who will be involved, but everyone has agreed in principle to do it.'



Sounds to me as he had a tip- off about a invite to perform unlike the award presentation only of 01.
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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2011, 06:12:09 PM »

Van Halen were great at what they did (first album in particular) but "truly iconic"?

BB reunion at the Grammys would be very interesting to say the least.

I think Van Halen was truly iconic. 100 million albums sold around the world and one of the few artists in history to have two albums sell over 10 million copies. Eddie is widely regarded as one of the five greatest rock guitarists of all-time and Alex is no slouch in the drumming category. Dave places highly on frontman lists. They were basically America's version of Led Zeppelin.

And this album would be the first with Dave since 1983.
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« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2011, 06:58:51 PM »

Wait, Van Halen reunited officially two years ago. Toured and toured since then, and are now working on a new album.
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« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2011, 08:37:32 PM »

I think Van Halen was truly iconic. 100 million albums sold around the world and one of the few artists in history to have two albums sell over 10 million copies. Eddie is widely regarded as one of the five greatest rock guitarists of all-time and Alex is no slouch in the drumming category. Dave places highly on frontman lists. They were basically America's version of Led Zeppelin.

And this album would be the first with Dave since 1983.

I am not fully persuaded that VH is "truly iconic" but you make a good case.  I agree that Eddie is a truly iconic rock guitarist, but I'm not sure that is enough to make VH truly iconic.  I may be overstating the case, but I bet half of Gen Y couldn't tell you the name of a single VH album.  If they can name an album I'd bet double or nothing they can't name two.  I just don't see VH in the same league as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, and The Beach Boys.  I realize this is a super-exclusive list, but that is the point, they are "truly iconic", not just Van Halen, Black Sabbath, U2 type iconic.
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« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2011, 08:50:32 PM »

I agree mypetsounds. My own 'truly iconic' list is very short!

But I also think the grammy people may over-hype any act if the intention is for the program to make money, priority 1 nowdays. Heck...we could be talking the Partridge Family!
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« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2011, 09:03:13 PM »

I agree mypetsounds. My own 'truly iconic' list is very short!

But I also think the grammy people may over-hype any act if the intention is for the program to make money, priority 1 nowdays. Heck...we could be talking the Partridge Family!

Pretty funny, and I agree.  I may be reading waaaaay too much into it, but this is my whole take on "truly" preceding iconic.  Its as if they realize they would call The Partridge Family and Van Halen and Black Sabbath iconic, so in order to cut through their own BS they add the word "truly," as in, "this isn't just talk, this isn't fluff, we aren't just building suspense, the group we have lined up is *truly* iconic."  But I could be wrong, it could just be more BS.  If the group truly is iconic, though, then it pretty much has to be The Beach Boys.
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« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2011, 10:43:44 PM »

Semantics. Inserting 'truly' before 'iconic' adds Nothing to the meaning. I'd I say something is 'truly red' is it any redder that if I simply described it as 'red'? No. It's just the Grammy people trying to be dramatic and creating a superlative out of nothing.

I'm no generation y bloke, btw, but I couldn't name one Van Halen LP; never liked that genre. That said, I've quite a few Led Zepp albums! I don't think Van Halen are in the same upper echelons of rock as The Beach Boys or Led Zeppelin.

Hmm... Led Zeppelin... Now there would be a truly iconic reunion, album and tour!
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« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2011, 02:52:37 AM »

Well, the Beach Boys also had a "Dancin' the night away"....sort of....  Cheesy
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« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2011, 05:51:38 AM »

No, Van Halen is not in the same category as the Beach Boys or Led Zeppelins or Rolling Stones of the world. They are a notch below, with the Polices, Aerosmiths and Fleetwood Macs. Even then, they are still in the upper upper echelons of artists who have existed. Therefore, I would say they are "truly iconic".
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« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2011, 06:24:52 PM »

I don't care what it is, as long as all the guys are standing on stage together I'll be happy
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« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2011, 06:32:28 PM »

Comparing Van Halen and the Beach Boys is like comparing uhhh... a pizza and a blanket or something. They're... both very warm but otherwise have got f*** all to do with each other. That was terrible. You get my point.

Shut up, you guys!

Also of relevance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2CyQ7Eslg4
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« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2011, 07:54:12 PM »

No, Van Halen is not in the same category as the Beach Boys or Led Zeppelins or Rolling Stones of the world. They are a notch below, with the Polices, Aerosmiths and Fleetwood Macs. Even then, they are still in the upper upper echelons of artists who have existed. Therefore, I would say they are "truly iconic".

Yes. And the Beatles are above both groups with only Bach and Vince Guilardi joining them.
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« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2011, 01:25:24 AM »

No, Van Halen is not in the same category as the Beach Boys or Led Zeppelins or Rolling Stones of the world. They are a notch below, with the Polices, Aerosmiths and Fleetwood Macs. Even then, they are still in the upper upper echelons of artists who have existed. Therefore, I would say they are "truly iconic".

Yes. And the Beatles are above both groups with only Bach and Vince Guilardi joining them.

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