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Author Topic: When in their career, if ever, do you stop listening to the beach boys?  (Read 28773 times)
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« Reply #75 on: November 25, 2011, 08:10:28 AM »

15BO: Everyone's In Love with You, Had to Phone Ya, Just Once in My Life
MIU: Belles of Paris, Sweet Sunday Love, My Diane, Match Point
LALA: Good Timin, Baby Blue, Sumahama
KTSA: KTSA, Sunshine, Endless Harmony
BB85: Getche Back, Where I Belong, Male Ego
SC: Kokamo, Somewhere Near Japan, Make it Big
SIP: Slow Summer Dancin, SIP



Your overall view I concur with, but I'd disagree on the choice of songs on each of the albums you list.  As for LA, I'm so used to my customized version put together with outtakes and other stuff from that period, I've actually convinced myself this is more than half a good album.  The spoken section in Sumahama makes me hurl, however.  Wish we had the one on First Love  mixed with the singing on the BB version - though I've only heard a so-so boot of the Lovester's original
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« Reply #76 on: November 25, 2011, 08:21:20 AM »

If it is the Beach Boys on the 1985 record or CD label and because you say you don't like that record, so it can't be the Beach Boys, that is plain nonsense. Non of what you state equals the original scenario. Let's end this. It is nonsense to argue over nonsense. Wink

I think you must have misunderstood my point, but something tells me there is little point explaining it it again.  Wink

I understood you perfectly. We can think whatever we want, it doesn't mean that the thinking is correct. If the 3 remaining Beatles release Free As A Bird as The Beatles, then it is The Beatles, whether we rationalize differently or not. Just like with The Beach Boys in concert. There used to a provision that at least 3 members had to be on stage for it to be a Beach Boys show. It is up to the band members to determine what is a group effort, not us.

But there is a point where applying a band's name to a product becomes misleading, and open to debate. The Love album has The Beatles name on the side but many would argue that it is not a real Beatles album. I don't believe their thinking is incorrect, do you? The new Smile Sessions LP has Smile written on the side, which some might take exception to. It's just a label. It's not necessarily the truth, and the decisions of how that label is applied can be arbritary, misguided. Think about all the lawsuits that have taken place over ownership of a band name. Didn't The Beach Boys go through such a dispute? If Mike & Bruce had legally been awarded the right to tour and record under the name The Beach Boys, would all their subsequent albums be real Beach Boys albums? By your reckoning, yes they would, even if that decision was made in a courtroom.

Technically, Summer In Paradise is a Beach Boys record. I'm not disputing that. I'm arguing that for me, that later incarnation is not a band I identify as The Beach Boys. It's a golden oldies outfit imo, so I choose not to listen, and if somebody presented me with that album and said "Ha ha ha! You like this band." I would argue "No, I like a very different band" and this reasoning would not be wrong.
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« Reply #77 on: November 25, 2011, 08:42:05 AM »

buddhahat, I totally understand where you are coming from with this, but in all honesty, while Love is not a proper Beatles album, it is Beatles music, performed by The Beatles. You used the proper word while discussing SIP, the word Technically. There are many bands who record new music without their classic lineups, and it is technically that band, because they are the members comprising the group at that point. My point here is that you recognize SIP as "technically" a Beach Boys album, while the OP that I responded to, said he rationalizes that the late era Beach Boys albums are not performed by The Beach Boys; hence, my nonsense comment.
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« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2011, 08:56:54 AM »

buddhahat, I totally understand where you are coming from with this, but in all honesty, while Love is not a proper Beatles album, it is Beatles music, performed by The Beatles. You used the proper word while discussing SIP, the word Technically. There are many bands who record new music without their classic lineups, and it is technically that band, because they are the members comprising the group at that point. My point here is that you recognize SIP as "technically" a Beach Boys album, while the OP that I responded to, said he rationalizes that the late era Beach Boys albums are not performed by The Beach Boys; hence, my nonsense comment.

Fair enough.
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« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2011, 10:13:59 AM »

buddhahat, I totally understand where you are coming from with this, but in all honesty, while Love is not a proper Beatles album, it is Beatles music, performed by The Beatles. You used the proper word while discussing SIP, the word Technically. There are many bands who record new music without their classic lineups, and it is technically that band, because they are the members comprising the group at that point. My point here is that you recognize SIP as "technically" a Beach Boys album, while the OP that I responded to, said he rationalizes that the late era Beach Boys albums are not performed by The Beach Boys; hence, my nonsense comment.

Man, you are taking things too literally. Comments made were by people/me saying that they virtually consider the influences, sounds, music, production etc. of latter day albums to be likened to that of a different band from earlier work. Nobody is saying the music is by a band that isn't/shouldn't be CALLED THE BEACH BOYS. I'm not saying put it in a different section in the music shop marked "NOT THE BEACH BOYS". You'd have to be stoopid to do that. Or stoopid to take it literally.
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« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2011, 11:44:35 AM »

buddhahat, I totally understand where you are coming from with this, but in all honesty, while Love is not a proper Beatles album, it is Beatles music, performed by The Beatles. You used the proper word while discussing SIP, the word Technically. There are many bands who record new music without their classic lineups, and it is technically that band, because they are the members comprising the group at that point. My point here is that you recognize SIP as "technically" a Beach Boys album, while the OP that I responded to, said he rationalizes that the late era Beach Boys albums are not performed by The Beach Boys; hence, my nonsense comment.

Man, you are taking things too literally. Comments made were by people/me saying that they virtually consider the influences, sounds, music, production etc. of latter day albums to be likened to that of a different band from earlier work. Nobody is saying the music is by a band that isn't/shouldn't be CALLED THE BEACH BOYS. I'm not saying put it in a different section in the music shop marked "NOT THE BEACH BOYS". You'd have to be stoopid to do that. Or stoopid to take it literally.
I only see what is written, not what is meant. You'd be surprised what people believe and what people take as fact, especially in here. Again, Don't READ it, if you don't like what I have to say.
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Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
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« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2011, 11:50:17 AM »

buddhahat, I totally understand where you are coming from with this, but in all honesty, while Love is not a proper Beatles album, it is Beatles music, performed by The Beatles. You used the proper word while discussing SIP, the word Technically. There are many bands who record new music without their classic lineups, and it is technically that band, because they are the members comprising the group at that point. My point here is that you recognize SIP as "technically" a Beach Boys album, while the OP that I responded to, said he rationalizes that the late era Beach Boys albums are not performed by The Beach Boys; hence, my nonsense comment.

Man, you are taking things too literally. Comments made were by people/me saying that they virtually consider the influences, sounds, music, production etc. of latter day albums to be likened to that of a different band from earlier work. Nobody is saying the music is by a band that isn't/shouldn't be CALLED THE BEACH BOYS. I'm not saying put it in a different section in the music shop marked "NOT THE BEACH BOYS". You'd have to be stoopid to do that. Or stoopid to take it literally.
I only see what is written, not what is meant. You'd be surprised what people believe and what people take as fact, especially in here. Again, Don't READ it, if you don't like what I have to say.

How is one supposed to know if they don't like something unless they read it first? I wish I could un-read your comments, truly. Next time I'll start a thread and then never read any reply. Gotcha.

Anyway, I came here for something more than this.
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« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2011, 12:15:07 PM »

buddhahat, I totally understand where you are coming from with this, but in all honesty, while Love is not a proper Beatles album, it is Beatles music, performed by The Beatles. You used the proper word while discussing SIP, the word Technically. There are many bands who record new music without their classic lineups, and it is technically that band, because they are the members comprising the group at that point. My point here is that you recognize SIP as "technically" a Beach Boys album, while the OP that I responded to, said he rationalizes that the late era Beach Boys albums are not performed by The Beach Boys; hence, my nonsense comment.

Man, you are taking things too literally. Comments made were by people/me saying that they virtually consider the influences, sounds, music, production etc. of latter day albums to be likened to that of a different band from earlier work. Nobody is saying the music is by a band that isn't/shouldn't be CALLED THE BEACH BOYS. I'm not saying put it in a different section in the music shop marked "NOT THE BEACH BOYS". You'd have to be stoopid to do that. Or stoopid to take it literally.
I only see what is written, not what is meant. You'd be surprised what people believe and what people take as fact, especially in here. Again, Don't READ it, if you don't like what I have to say.

How is one supposed to know if they don't like something unless they read it first? I wish I could un-read your comments, truly. Next time I'll start a thread and then never read any reply. Gotcha.

Anyway, I came here for something more than this.
Thank you. I am so glad you would do me that favor. From your first response to my post, you didn't agree with my position. You could have stopped there. I came here for more too, but shat happens, you know. I would have left it at my initial response, but you and others responded and I didn't want to be rude and not reply. That is kind of what we do here if you haven't figured that out yet. We discuss and give our opinions. I think we all wore this particular topic out considering the OP I addressed hasn't bothered to weigh in on it. Wink
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And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
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« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2011, 07:45:44 PM »

I'll leave if you want

That'd be great! And don't tell me to bugger off, lady, ya don't impress me a bit. I'm just the only person straightforward enough to state outright what pretty much, well, EVERYONE else is thinking. Quit trying to correct other people's personal views, it is embarrassing. It doesn't make you look smarter than anyone else, seriously.
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« Reply #84 on: November 26, 2011, 12:31:27 AM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".
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« Reply #85 on: November 26, 2011, 12:32:25 AM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
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« Reply #86 on: November 26, 2011, 12:46:23 AM »

I'll leave if you want

That'd be great! And don't tell me to bugger off, lady, ya don't impress me a bit. I'm just the only person straightforward enough to state outright what pretty much, well, EVERYONE else is thinking. Quit trying to correct other people's personal views, it is embarrassing. It doesn't make you look smarter than anyone else, seriously.
Listen I Spaceadet, I'll post and reply to whatever I damn well please. I have just as much right as anyone else in here to give my views. What are you, the censor cop? Don't like me, don't F'in READ my posts. Now for the second straight time, Bugger Off!!!
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« Reply #87 on: November 26, 2011, 12:45:49 PM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
How am i lost?
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« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2011, 03:53:32 PM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
How am i lost?
He's probably just trying to say that there is quite a bit of good Beach Boys music post-1970. Surfs Up, Holland, Carl & The Passions are all great Beach Boys albums but they are a bit different from the earlier ones - more mature, with a social conscience.

These albums are different musically as well, because Carl, Dennis, Mike, Al and Bruce took the reins on 20/20 and Sunflower, which form kind of a midway point between the Boys' late 60's sound and early 70's sound. The group then took their sound to a somewhat darker, more socially-conscious place on Surfs Up. Jack Riely's management of the band and the lyrics he wrote contributed to this transformation, as did the departure of Bruce Johnston after Sunflower.

Then, with the addition of Blondie and Ricky to the band for Holland and Carl & The Passions, they morphed some more. The group had added two new members who were vocalists, songwriters, and instrumentalists, so this affected the sound of the group appreciably.

When they came back in 1976 with 15 Big Ones, they were the commercially-minded "fun and sun" group again, without the innocence and exuberance of the early to mid 60s. The Wilson brothers were in dire straits, and the band was never truly the same afterwards. 1977's "Love You," however, is one of their absolute best albums, although it is somewhat of an acquired taste.

All this to say that because of their vast catalogue, different eras with varying sounds, and eventual calcification into a shadow of their former selves starting in 1980, being a Beach Boys fan is all about evolving. When I first got into The Beach Boys, I was all about Pet Sounds and I followed that to what I could find of SMiLe, and then the rest of the group's late 60's output. I adored Sunflower, but Surf's Up, aside from "'Til I Die" and a couple other tracks, left me cold, and Holland didn't make that much of an impression on me. Now, I listen to those albums frequently and enjoy them quite a bit.

The 'bunk' Beach Boys albums, 15 Big Ones, M.I.U., Light Album, Keepin' The Summer Alive, BB'85, Still Cruisin', and Summer in Paradise are the last ones you will likely get into if you are anything like me. I've been a Beach Boys fan for many years and I've only recently decided to give KTSA and the 1985 album another chance. They make 15 Big Ones seem like a pretty good album by comparison, but there are a few scattered gems to be found on the later albums... and even when the group's songwriting and production is absolutely execrable, their harmonies always shine.

The Beach Boys dipped in quality for the first time with 15 Big Ones, got better with Love You, dipped again with M.I.U., got a little bit better with Light Album, and then went into their terminal decline with Keepin' The Summer Alive.

Now, someone is going to tell me that I lose... c'est la vie.
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« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2011, 04:09:21 PM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
How am i lost?
He's probably just trying to say that there is quite a bit of good Beach Boys music post-1970. Surfs Up, Holland, Carl & The Passions are all great Beach Boys albums but they are a bit different from the earlier ones - more mature, with a social conscience.

These albums are different musically as well, because Carl, Dennis, Mike, Al and Bruce took the reins on 20/20 and Sunflower, which form kind of a midway point between the Boys' late 60's sound and early 70's sound. The group then took their sound to a somewhat darker, more socially-conscious place on Surfs Up. Jack Riely's management of the band and the lyrics he wrote contributed to this transformation.

Then, with the addition of Blondie and Ricky to the band for Holland and Carl & The Passions, they morphed some more. The group had added two new members who were vocalists, songwriters, and instrumentalists, so this affected the sound of the group appreciably.

When they came back in 1976 with 15 Big Ones, they were the commercially-minded "fun and sun" group again, without the innocence and exuberance of the early to mid 60s. The Wilson brothers were in dire straits, and the band was never truly the same afterwards. 1977's "Love You," however, is one of their absolute best albums, although it is somewhat of an acquired taste.

All this to say that because of their vast catalogue, different eras with varying sounds, and eventual calcification into a shadow of their former selves starting in 1980, being a Beach Boys fan is all about evolving. When I first got into The Beach Boys, I was all about Pet Sounds and I followed that to what I could find of SMiLe, and then the rest of the group's late 60's output. I adored Sunflower, but Surf's Up, aside from "'Til I Die" and a couple other tracks, left me cold, and Holland didn't make that much of an impression on me. Now, I listen to those albums frequently and enjoy them quite a bit.

The 'bunk' Beach Boys albums, 15 Big Ones, M.I.U., Light Album, Keepin' The Summer Alive, BB'85, Still Cruisin', and Summer in Paradise are the last ones you will likely get into if you are anything like me. I've been a Beach Boys fan for many years and I've only recently decided to give KTSA and the 1985 album another chance. They make 15 Big Ones seem like a pretty good album by comparison, but there are a few scattered gems to be found on the later albums... and even when the group's songwriting and production is absolutely execrable, their harmonies always shine.

The Beach Boys dipped in quality for the first time with 15 Big Ones, got better with Love You, dipped again with M.I.U., got a little bit better with Light Album, and then went into their terminal decline with Keepin' The Summer Alive.

Now, someone is going to tell me that I lose... c'est la vie.
The albums you weren't quite feeling are the same ones that left me confused and dissatisfied Smiley
i wonder why people think surf's up and holland are their best albums but everyone has their own taste and opinion.
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« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2011, 04:26:45 PM »

I'll leave if you want

That'd be great! And don't tell me to bugger off, lady, ya don't impress me a bit. I'm just the only person straightforward enough to state outright what pretty much, well, EVERYONE else is thinking. Quit trying to correct other people's personal views, it is embarrassing. It doesn't make you look smarter than anyone else, seriously.
Listen I Spaceadet, I'll post and reply to whatever I damn well please. I have just as much right as anyone else in here to give my views. What are you, the censor cop? Don't like me, don't F'in READ my posts. Now for the second straight time, Bugger Off!!!

It's a social environment and you can choose to either respond to social cues or not.  Right now everyone is kind of slowly backing away from you towards the edges of the room and avoiding eye contact with you, while you loudly insist to no-one in particular that it's all because you are just "too real" for anybody to handle. 

Now you have made a few good points in the midst of a lot of frothing, and I for one wouldn't tell you to bugger off.  You could probably do with a bit more good faith in engaging with other people's opinions, and less coming from the position that everyone else is being disingenuous or dense.  Of course you are free to post "whatever you want", just as you're free to attend a party naked and covered in feces. 
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« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2011, 04:37:17 PM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
How am i lost?
The albums you weren't quite feeling are the same ones that left me confused and dissatisfied Smiley
i wonder why people think surf's up and holland are their best albums but everyone has their own taste and opinion.
Absolutely. I know there are some posters here who like the 80's and 90's Beach Boys albums that I can't stand.

One of my favorite things about music is how it grows inside you, like a tapeworm. Some of my favorite albums and songs are those that left me cold when I first purchased them. There is a certain genius in crafting an album like Surf's Up, which at first blush seems like a group of disparate songs, with most of the good stuff at the end. Later on, the other tracks on the album grow on you and you start to like them and see how they fit. (In my mind, these tracks are the non-Brian and non-Carl tracks).

At the same time, a song like "Til I Die" never gets old, and is so musically deep and unique that it is impossible for me to become tired of it. So at this point, listening to Surf's Up, which I've owned for more than a decade and which didn't tickle my fancy at first, is a treat. I enjoy it more than I ever have in the past and my ardor for it continues to grow.

Holland is a different kind of album from Surf's Up because it is more cohesive, but it only has a couple of 'stand-out' tracks upon first listen. This album is also a grower though; one great example is "Steamboat," which doesn't have a traditional commercial pop song structure and does not go out of its way to ingratiate itself with the listener. It just rolls lazily along and evokes the atmosphere of a steamboat on a river with cinematic ease. I barely noticed the song when I first acquired a copy of Holland, but now it's one of my go-to Beach Boys tracks.

I love the fact that the group at that time had the balls to make "Steamboat" the second cut on the album - not that the song is bereft of hooks or melody, but it doesn't try too hard like "It's OK" or some other Beach Boys tunes.

There are very few forced smiles on Surf's Up, Holland, or Carl & The Passions.

Most listeners get into The Beach Boys because of Brian's superlative, adventurous songwriting and production work, first and foremost. When Brian receded into the background, the group changed into a somewhat different animal. In hindsight, it is a small miracle that The Beach Boys managed to consistently remain viable creatively, if not commercially, for almost a decade after SMiLe collapsed.

The post-Brian Beach Boys were lucky in that they had five extremely talented band members who were champing at the bit to unleash their creativity by the time he abdicated. The early 70's influx of new blood and the group's willingness to change with the times, however belated and woefully brief, resulted in something new and different that you may grow to appreciate more with time.
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« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2011, 04:54:12 PM »

I stopped listening after Beach Boys 1985...I think The Beach Boys died with Dennis.
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« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2011, 05:12:12 PM »

I stopped listening after Beach Boys 1985...I think The Beach Boys died with Dennis.
Agreed, and Dennis' lack of presence on Keepin' the Summer Alive greatly impacts that album as well.
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« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2011, 06:06:04 PM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
How am i lost?
The albums you weren't quite feeling are the same ones that left me confused and dissatisfied Smiley
i wonder why people think surf's up and holland are their best albums but everyone has their own taste and opinion.
Absolutely. I know there are some posters here who like the 80's and 90's Beach Boys albums that I can't stand.

One of my favorite things about music is how it grows inside you, like a tapeworm. Some of my favorite albums and songs are those that left me cold when I first purchased them. There is a certain genius in crafting an album like Surf's Up, which at first blush seems like a group of disparate songs, with most of the good stuff at the end. Later on, the other tracks on the album grow on you and you start to like them and see how they fit. (In my mind, these tracks are the non-Brian and non-Carl tracks).

At the same time, a song like "Til I Die" never gets old, and is so musically deep and unique that it is impossible for me to become tired of it. So at this point, listening to Surf's Up, which I've owned for more than a decade and which didn't tickle my fancy at first, is a treat. I enjoy it more than I ever have in the past and my ardor for it continues to grow.

Holland is a different kind of album from Surf's Up because it is more cohesive, but it only has a couple of 'stand-out' tracks upon first listen. This album is also a grower though; one great example is "Steamboat," which doesn't have a traditional commercial pop song structure and does not go out of its way to ingratiate itself with the listener. It just rolls lazily along and evokes the atmosphere of a steamboat on a river with cinematic ease. I barely noticed the song when I first acquired a copy of Holland, but now it's one of my go-to Beach Boys tracks.

I love the fact that the group at that time had the balls to make "Steamboat" the second cut on the album - not that the song is bereft of hooks or melody, but it doesn't try too hard like "It's OK" or some other Beach Boys tunes.

There are very few forced smiles on Surf's Up, Holland, or Carl & The Passions.

Most listeners get into The Beach Boys because of Brian's superlative, adventurous songwriting and production work, first and foremost. When Brian receded into the background, the group changed into a somewhat different animal. In hindsight, it is a small miracle that The Beach Boys managed to consistently remain viable creatively, if not commercially, for almost a decade after SMiLe collapsed.

The post-Brian Beach Boys were lucky in that they had five extremely talented band members who were champing at the bit to unleash their creativity by the time he abdicated. The early 70's influx of new blood and the group's willingness to change with the times, however belated and woefully brief, resulted in something new and different that you may grow to appreciate more with time.
ok what are the standout tracks from wild honey? sunflower? friends? and holland for you?
(curious to see what your taste is like)
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« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2011, 06:16:11 PM »

...I think The Beach Boys died with Dennis.
Bingo.
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« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2011, 07:15:35 PM »

I'll leave if you want

That'd be great! And don't tell me to bugger off, lady, ya don't impress me a bit. I'm just the only person straightforward enough to state outright what pretty much, well, EVERYONE else is thinking. Quit trying to correct other people's personal views, it is embarrassing. It doesn't make you look smarter than anyone else, seriously.
Listen I Spaceadet, I'll post and reply to whatever I damn well please. I have just as much right as anyone else in here to give my views. What are you, the censor cop? Don't like me, don't F'in READ my posts. Now for the second straight time, Bugger Off!!!

It's a social environment and you can choose to either respond to social cues or not.  Right now everyone is kind of slowly backing away from you towards the edges of the room and avoiding eye contact with you, while you loudly insist to no-one in particular that it's all because you are just "too real" for anybody to handle. 

Now you have made a few good points in the midst of a lot of frothing, and I for one wouldn't tell you to bugger off.  You could probably do with a bit more good faith in engaging with other people's opinions, and less coming from the position that everyone else is being disingenuous or dense.  Of course you are free to post "whatever you want", just as you're free to attend a party naked and covered in feces. 
Sounds like a wonderful idea. Where's the party? Wink Let's let this die, like The Beach Boys apparently have.
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« Reply #97 on: November 26, 2011, 08:11:35 PM »

Haha. Ah bless.
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« Reply #98 on: November 26, 2011, 09:23:58 PM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
How am i lost?
The albums you weren't quite feeling are the same ones that left me confused and dissatisfied Smiley
i wonder why people think surf's up and holland are their best albums but everyone has their own taste and opinion.
Absolutely. I know there are some posters here who like the 80's and 90's Beach Boys albums that I can't stand.

(SNIP SNIP SNIP SNIP SNIP)

Most listeners get into The Beach Boys because of Brian's superlative, adventurous songwriting and production work, first and foremost. When Brian receded into the background, the group changed into a somewhat different animal. In hindsight, it is a small miracle that The Beach Boys managed to consistently remain viable creatively, if not commercially, for almost a decade after SMiLe collapsed.

The post-Brian Beach Boys were lucky in that they had five extremely talented band members who were champing at the bit to unleash their creativity by the time he abdicated. The early 70's influx of new blood and the group's willingness to change with the times, however belated and woefully brief, resulted in something new and different that you may grow to appreciate more with time.
ok what are the standout tracks from wild honey? sunflower? friends? and holland for you?
(curious to see what your taste is like)

Wild Honey:
- Aren't you Glad
- Country Air
- Let the Wind Blow
* Can't Wait Too Long (from the twofer)

Friends:
- Little Bird
- Meant For You
- Friends
- Busy Doin' Nothin'
- Wake The World

20/20:
- I Can Hear Music
- Time To Get Alone
- I Went To Sleep
- Be With Me
* Break Away (from the twofer) - the mix of Hawthorne, CA is incredible. Great song.

Sunflower:
- Slip on Through
- This Whole World
- It's About Time
- All I Wanna Do
- Cool Cool Water

Surfs Up:
- Long Promised Road
- Feel Flows
- Surfs Up
- Til I Die
- Disney Girls
* Honorable mentions - Day in the Life of a Tree and Disney Girl

Holland:
- Steamboat
- Big Sur
- California
- Trader
- Better Get Back In Bed

Carl & The Passions:
- You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone
- Marcella
- All This is That

15 Big Ones:
- Rock and Roll Music (used to find it mediocre, now I appreciate its demented quality)
- Palisades Park
- Just For Once in My Life

Love You:
- Roller Skatin' Child
- Honkin' Down The Highway
- I'll Bet He's Nice
- Airplane
- The Night Was So Young
- Mona
- Johnny Carson (when Brian mentions wanting to do a "rock and roll" album, this is what I think of).

M.I.U. Album:
- My Diane
- Pitter Patter

L.A. (Light Album:
- Good Timin'
- Love Surrounds Me
- Angel Come Home
- Shortenin' Bread

Keepin' The Summer Alive:
- Goin' On
- Keepin' The Summer Alive

The Beach Boys (1985):
- Male Ego
- It's Getting Late
- Maybe I Don't Know

Brian Wilson (1988):
- Baby Let Your Hair Grow Long
- There's So Many
- Rio Grande

Still Cruisin'
- In My Car (sounds like an update of Honkin' Down The Highway. Similar drum beat! Great stuff, love the synth bass).
* Honorable Mention: Somewhere Near Japan (Much of this album doesn't sound like it was given a proper mix down).

Summer in Paradise:
- The Blessed Silence (between the tracks on the CD)

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« Reply #99 on: November 26, 2011, 09:56:14 PM »

Everything After 1970.
Standout Songs after 1970.. are "Til i Die".."All This is That".."The Night Was So Young" & "I Do Love You".

You lost, Bobby.
How am i lost?
The albums you weren't quite feeling are the same ones that left me confused and dissatisfied Smiley
i wonder why people think surf's up and holland are their best albums but everyone has their own taste and opinion.
Absolutely. I know there are some posters here who like the 80's and 90's Beach Boys albums that I can't stand.

(SNIP SNIP SNIP SNIP SNIP)

Most listeners get into The Beach Boys because of Brian's superlative, adventurous songwriting and production work, first and foremost. When Brian receded into the background, the group changed into a somewhat different animal. In hindsight, it is a small miracle that The Beach Boys managed to consistently remain viable creatively, if not commercially, for almost a decade after SMiLe collapsed.

The post-Brian Beach Boys were lucky in that they had five extremely talented band members who were champing at the bit to unleash their creativity by the time he abdicated. The early 70's influx of new blood and the group's willingness to change with the times, however belated and woefully brief, resulted in something new and different that you may grow to appreciate more with time.
ok what are the standout tracks from wild honey? sunflower? friends? and holland for you?
(curious to see what your taste is like)

Wild Honey:
- Aren't you Glad
- Country Air
- Let the Wind Blow
* Can't Wait Too Long (from the twofer)

Friends:
- Little Bird
- Meant For You
- Friends
- Busy Doin' Nothin'
- Wake The World

20/20:
- I Can Hear Music
- Time To Get Alone
- I Went To Sleep
- Be With Me
* Break Away (from the twofer) - the mix of Hawthorne, CA is incredible. Great song.

Sunflower:
- Slip on Through
- This Whole World
- It's About Time
- All I Wanna Do
- Cool Cool Water

Surfs Up:
- Long Promised Road
- Feel Flows
- Surfs Up
- Til I Die
- Disney Girls
* Honorable mentions - Day in the Life of a Tree and Disney Girl

Holland:
- Steamboat
- Big Sur
- California
- Trader
- Better Get Back In Bed

Carl & The Passions:
- You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone
- Marcella
- All This is That

15 Big Ones:
- Rock and Roll Music (used to find it mediocre, now I appreciate its demented quality)
- Palisades Park
- Just For Once in My Life

Love You:
- Roller Skatin' Child
- Honkin' Down The Highway
- I'll Bet He's Nice
- Airplane
- The Night Was So Young
- Mona
- Johnny Carson (when Brian mentions wanting to do a "rock and roll" album, this is what I think of).

M.I.U. Album:
- My Diane
- Pitter Patter

L.A. (Light Album:
- Good Timin'
- Love Surrounds Me
- Angel Come Home
- Shortenin' Bread

Keepin' The Summer Alive:
- Goin' On
- Keepin' The Summer Alive

The Beach Boys (1985):
- Male Ego
- It's Getting Late
- Maybe I Don't Know

Brian Wilson (1988):
- Baby Let Your Hair Grow Long
- There's So Many
- Rio Grande

Still Cruisin'
- In My Car (sounds like an update of Honkin' Down The Highway. Similar drum beat! Great stuff, love the synth bass).
* Honorable Mention: Somewhere Near Japan (Much of this album doesn't sound like it was given a proper mix down).

Summer in Paradise:
- The Blessed Silence (between the tracks on the CD)


wow interesting but overall you like most of the ones i like. Smiley
this is mah favorites from each album.

Wild Honey:
-Wild Honey
- Aren't you Glad
- Country Air
- Let the Wind Blow
- A Thing or Two
- Darlin'
-  I'd Love Just Once to See You
- Here Comes the Night
- How She Boogalooed It

Friends:
- Passing By
- Little Bird
- Busy Doin' Nothin'
- Anna Lee The Healer
- Diamond Head

20/20:
- Do It Again
- I Can Hear Music
- Bluebirds Over the Mountain(Don't see why anyone would hate this song)
- Time To Get Alone
- I Went To Sleep
- Be With Me
- Never Learn Not to Love
- Break Away

Sunflower:
- This Whole World
- Add Some Music to Your Day
- Deirdre
- Forever
- Our Sweet Love
- At My Window
- All I Wanna Do
- Cool Cool Water

Surfs Up:
- Surfs Up
- Til I Die



Holland:
- Steamboat
- Sail On Sailor
- Funky Pretty

Carl & The Passions:
- Marcella
- All This is That

15 Big Ones:
- Rock and Roll Music
- It's O.K.
- Had To Phone Ya
- Just For Once in My Life

Love You:

- I'll Bet He's Nice
- The Night Was So Young
-- Let's Put Our Hearts Together

M.I.U. Album:
- Belles In Paris
-Sweet Sunday Kinda Love

L.A. (Light Album:
- Shortenin' Bread

Keepin' The Summer Alive:
- Goin' On


The Beach Boys (1985):
- I Love You
- IIt's Just A Matter Of Time
- Getcha Back


Still Cruisin'
-  Still Cruisin' (Extremely Catchy, Don't know why it gets so much flack)
- Kokomo
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