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« on: November 10, 2011, 05:35:44 PM »

On the Landlocked version of this song, is it Brian or Al singing the falsetto on the verses?

I've always wondered why Al took a perfectly good Brian song (Sailplane Song) and turned into this abomination.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 06:10:07 PM »

Sailplane is song is awesome, I guess Al just got obsessed with it and just went overboard trying to improve it, hence "loop de loop"
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 06:24:13 PM »

How weird, today I was taking a piss (literally) and I was thinking, why the hell did Al take so long to release LdL? And my assumption was because it took him all this time to realize it will never hold up to sail plane song.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 07:28:41 PM »

I'd imagine Brian shelved it and Al unshelved it? "Sail Plane Song" is better but doesn't sound particularly finished, to me.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 07:57:48 PM »

Am i the only one that likes Alan"s version of LDL..!! Altho the final version with the lower voiced vocals is not as good as the booted version with voices in the nose bleed seats..!! 1st time i heard the booted version i thought the song was a HIT single..That would be late 60"s or early 70"s recording.. 1st time i heard it was 83.. REMEMBER WHEN YOU COULD ORDER BOOTS FROM A CERTAIN COLLECTOR NEWSPAPER..!.I met Alan at cerritos center 95 and asked him what happened and he laughed and said..BW doesnt like it..He didnt call him Brian.. He called him BW..!..Interesting.. I started asking him about MIU lp.. He was sheepish about that lp....To me LDL sounds like classic BB.. Sail plane song sounds more like a stoner song..IMHO
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 09:23:17 PM »

I met Alan at cerritos center 95 and asked him what happened and he laughed and said..BW doesnt like it

Interesting/amusing.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 10:13:45 PM »

today I was taking a piss (literally) and I was thinking, why the hell did Al take so long to release LdL?

The toilet (I guess you pissed there) is certainly a good place for good ideas. That's why I always have a pencil and piece of paper lying there. But what I really wanted to post: Take "Sail Plane Song" and "Loop De Loop", mix them, shake them and you have a groovy c.ocktail, sort of a "Good Vibrations" for the poor. -> Watch
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 10:25:43 PM »

today I was taking a piss (literally) and I was thinking, why the hell did Al take so long to release LdL?

The toilet (I guess you pissed there) is certainly a good place for good ideas. That's why I always have a pencil and piece of paper lying there. But what I really wanted to post: Take "Sail Plane Song" and "Loop De Loop", mix them, shake them and you have a groovy c.ocktail, sort of a "Good Vibrations" for the poor. -> Watch

That is really cool.  Not bad at all.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 12:03:42 AM »

I find Loop De Loop (and its Christmas cousin) too loud, too busy, too intrusive on the ears. Sail Plane Song is better by far, IMHO. It is so etherical, so simple, so dreamlike... should've been on Friends, in stead of Transcendental Meditation.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 12:42:15 AM »

On the Landlocked version of this song, is it Brian or Al singing the falsetto on the verses?

I've always wondered why Al took a perfectly good Brian song (Sailplane Song) and turned into this abomination.

1 - as there never was a Landlocked, no Landlocked version.

2 - "Sail Plane Song" is just a rough demo.

3 - The falsetto is Alan.

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 01:18:38 AM »

On the Landlocked version of this song, is it Brian or Al singing the falsetto on the verses?

I've always wondered why Al took a perfectly good Brian song (Sailplane Song) and turned into this abomination.

1 - as there never was a Landlocked, no Landlocked version.

2 - "Sail Plane Song" is just a rough demo.

3 - The falsetto is Alan.


Isn't there at least 2 variations floating around on boots?
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 01:51:37 AM »

Didn't Jack Reiley hate Loop De Loop  and forbid Al from working on it anymore? If he hadn't there's a very good chance it could have ended up on "Surf's Up".

PS. I like Loop De Loop.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 01:59:15 AM »

I love the 1969 Jardine vocal and version. He was a little upset that Brian wouldn't sing the lead or backups, but Desper told me Brian did do some things musically on it at least.
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 02:12:30 AM »

On the Landlocked version of this song, is it Brian or Al singing the falsetto on the verses?

I've always wondered why Al took a perfectly good Brian song (Sailplane Song) and turned into this abomination.

1 - as there never was a Landlocked, no Landlocked version.

2 - "Sail Plane Song" is just a rough demo.

3 - The falsetto is Alan.



1.  I know this and called it after the most common bootleg it appears on so people would realise I didn't mean the Endless Harmony version.
2. I also know this - I am comparing them as songs, not recordings.
3. Thankyou.
4. Being a bit pedantic aren't you?  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2011, 03:10:00 AM »

On the Landlocked version of this song, is it Brian or Al singing the falsetto on the verses?

I've always wondered why Al took a perfectly good Brian song (Sailplane Song) and turned into this abomination.

1 - as there never was a Landlocked, no Landlocked version.

2 - "Sail Plane Song" is just a rough demo.

3 - The falsetto is Alan.



1.  I know this and called it after the most common bootleg it appears on so people would realise I didn't mean the Endless Harmony version.
2. I also know this - I am comparing them as songs, not recordings.
3. Thankyou.
4. Being a bit pedantic aren't you?  Wink

I call it being accurate.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2011, 03:15:21 AM »

Andrew? Pedantic? You must be thinking of someone else.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 03:29:01 AM »

Andrew? Pedantic? You must be thinking of someone else.

Word.  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 11:08:17 AM »

I met Alan at cerritos center 95 and asked him what happened and he laughed and said..BW doesnt like it.

By 1995, Brian had long since mined "Loop De Loop" for its hook in "Daddy's Little Girl" (1989). A track that should have been included on his solo debut remaster in 2000, but I digress...
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2011, 01:14:11 PM »

I actually quite like LDL.............!
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2011, 05:04:09 PM »

I love "Loop De Loop", "Sail Plane Song" AND "Transcendental Mediation".

I despise "Some Of Your Love", BB85 and any cover song that Al ruined in the 70's.

We all have opinions.
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2011, 06:34:27 PM »

On the Landlocked version of this song, is it Brian or Al singing the falsetto on the verses?

I've always wondered why Al took a perfectly good Brian song (Sailplane Song) and turned into this abomination.

1 - as there never was a Landlocked, no Landlocked version.

2 - "Sail Plane Song" is just a rough demo.

3 - The falsetto is Alan.



1.  I know this and called it after the most common bootleg it appears on so people would realise I didn't mean the Endless Harmony version.
2. I also know this - I am comparing them as songs, not recordings.
3. Thankyou.
4. Being a bit pedantic aren't you?  Wink

I call it being accurate.

Only if you refuse to acknowledge the existence of bootlegs, and very well known ones, at that...
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2011, 10:11:53 PM »

September 1st 1970: master for "2nd Warner Brothers LP" prepared. The tracks on the tape (as noted on the box label) were: Loop De Loop/Susie Cincinnati/San Miguel/H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way")/Take A Load Off Your Feet/Carnival/I Just Got My Pay/Good Time/Big Sur/My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love")/When Girls Get Together/Lookin' At Tomorrow/How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead). Also scrawled on the box is "GRILLO HIPE". [Artisan Sounds ?]

Said assembly has been commonly (and incorrectly) known as Landlocked since the late 70s, hence my comment.  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2011, 11:23:31 PM »

On the Landlocked version of this song, is it Brian or Al singing the falsetto on the verses?

I've always wondered why Al took a perfectly good Brian song (Sailplane Song) and turned into this abomination.

1 - as there never was a Landlocked, no Landlocked version.

2 - "Sail Plane Song" is just a rough demo.

3 - The falsetto is Alan.



1.  I know this and called it after the most common bootleg it appears on so people would realise I didn't mean the Endless Harmony version.
2. I also know this - I am comparing them as songs, not recordings.
3. Thankyou.
4. Being a bit pedantic aren't you?  Wink

I call it being accurate.

Only if you refuse to acknowledge the existence of bootlegs, and very well known ones, at that...
Bootlegs most definitely do not exist.
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2011, 10:11:54 PM »

I love "Loop De Loop", "Sail Plane Song" AND "Transcendental Mediation".

I despise "Some Of Your Love", BB85 and any cover song that Al ruined in the 70's.

We all have opinions.
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2011, 10:25:36 PM »

September 1st 1970: master for "2nd Warner Brothers LP" prepared. The tracks on the tape (as noted on the box label) were: Loop De Loop/Susie Cincinnati/San Miguel/H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way")/Take A Load Off Your Feet/Carnival/I Just Got My Pay/Good Time/Big Sur/My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love")/When Girls Get Together/Lookin' At Tomorrow/How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead). Also scrawled on the box is "GRILLO HIPE". [Artisan Sounds ?]

Said assembly has been commonly (and incorrectly) known as Landlocked since the late 70s, hence my comment.  Smiley

Why the heck is "Til I Die" called "How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up"? I can understand "How Deep Is The Ocean", but is it a possibility that maybe although "Surf's Up" wasn't on the tape, maybe even at that point that were thinking about using the song on their next album? I don't know.
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