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« on: October 28, 2011, 08:16:38 AM » |
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WWP vocals??
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 09:01:00 AM » |
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Do you mean "The Elements: Fire?"  I think it sounds absolutely fantastic. It's the probably the best fly-in in terms of not being able to tell the vocals are flown in.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 02:19:20 PM » |
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Do you mean "The Elements: Fire?"  I think it sounds absolutely fantastic. It's the probably the best fly-in in terms of not being able to tell the vocals are flown in. I totally agree. I love the vocals on it, and yes, you cannot tell that they were flown in. Terrific!
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 03:00:14 PM » |
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I have to say -- the Fire vox are one of those BWPS additions that are so obvious in retrospect and that sound so good, they just make you wonder ...
Anyway, great version.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 11:57:29 PM » |
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The new mix is great. It is a actually very similar to the mono mix with fire sound effects. I even think I can hear them faintly in the background..for example. It uses the same transition to the ending part as the fire sound efects mix (the 'quieter part with less instruments). For my 'basic Smile mixes' I'm going to make a stereo Fire from the sessions, without the vocal fly ins.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 11:57:44 PM » |
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The new mix is great. It is a actually very similar to the mono mix with fire sound effects. I even think I can hear them faintly in the background..for example. It uses the same transition to the ending part as the fire sound efects mix (the 'quieter part with less instruments). For my 'basic Smile mixes' I'm going to make a stereo Fire from the sessions, without the vocal fly ins.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 06:43:06 AM » |
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The new mix is great. It is a actually very similar to the mono mix with fire sound effects. I even think I can hear them faintly in the background..for example. It uses the same transition to the ending part as the fire sound efects mix (the 'quieter part with less instruments). For my 'basic Smile mixes' I'm going to make a stereo Fire from the sessions, without the vocal fly ins.
Awesome. I love that transition near the end so much better. The other mix ends WAY too quick.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 07:18:57 AM » |
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Like everyone above has stated, those fly-ins work really well!
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 11:39:05 PM » |
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Like everyone above has stated, those fly-ins work really well!
Come on, there MUST be someone who hates them!  (Not me, though.)
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 09:23:41 AM » |
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Like everyone above has stated, those fly-ins work really well!
Come on, there MUST be someone who hates them!  (Not me, though.) After hearing the vocals on the first live RFH show back in 2004, it was like having a moment of clarity. Those vocals from Fall Breaks... were meant for Fire all along. I love having the vocals on it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 10:26:33 AM » |
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I think the crackling i there as well - wonderful
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 10:28:30 AM » |
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This about the scariest song ever, but it is awesome! 
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 04:34:04 PM » |
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This about the scariest song ever
Well, it IS Halloween 
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 06:16:54 PM » |
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This about the scariest song ever
Well, it IS Halloween  Good point, should play this song for the Holiday.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 08:01:47 PM » |
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out of curiosity where do they fly the vocals in from?
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 08:12:52 PM » |
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Love the new mix, and these are among the best fly-ins on the album for sure. I always dug the vocals on BWPS so this is one of the rare cases where I'm glad they followed that template so closely.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 09:07:50 PM » |
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out of curiosity where do they fly the vocals in from?
"Fall Breaks And Back To Winter". It's generally assumed that the vocals in that song were lifted from "Fire" anyway, so being in the same key, it works really well.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2011, 01:48:42 PM » |
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wow just heard it and it sounds perfect.. 
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2011, 03:48:35 PM » |
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-I like how they still kept the fire in (very low in the mix although I always liked it up front  ). -Wow, those fly-ins DO work well. Use to hate that in the PC mix  -EXTENDED ENDING! YES! -Sounds clearer then ever.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 12:07:33 PM » |
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I think the lifting of the Fall Breaks vocals and inserting them into Fire/Cow was another thing that Brian remembered during the piecing together of BWPS. And like many people, when I first heard it.....'twas like a jigsaw falling into place. Those vocals were made for Fire, no doubt about it.
Scariest song ever? You need to listen to some of King Crimson's headier works.
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 09:36:45 PM » |
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And also the entirely of Frank Zappa's album "Everything Is Healing Nicely." Creepiest foda'ing thing I've ever heard.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2011, 11:39:18 AM » |
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For an album called SMiLE, it sure doesn't fit overall theme. I never understood the point of this song being on the album in that context. Listen to it while you look at the cover - it makes no sense! This song would certainly have not appealed to young teenage girls in 1967 who expected Barbara Ann or Help Me Rhonda again.  That being said, of course I love it! This song would fit nicely in a King Crimson show.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2011, 01:19:31 PM » |
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It's a very creative and powerful piece of music. I'd love to know what the other Elements tracks would have sounded like.
In my mind, the only properly finished Smile track is "Good Vibrations".
All the other Smile tracks (including the released versions of Heroes & Villains, Cabinessence and Surf's Up) were editied after Brian's meltdown in 1967 and are therefore not 100% authentic Smile era.
Assuming that "The Elements:Part One" is an instrumental (possibly with a vocal overdub) it is probably the next most authentic Smile track. Makes me think that a properly finished album would have been mind-blowing (and much better than the approximation of half-completed tracks that survive today).
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 01:20:52 AM » |
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Check out the bonus track at the end of CD 4, which has the isolated crinkling "fire sound effects". If you listen closely, you can hear what sounds like the wind blowing behind the "fire". Freaking creepy.
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2011, 09:00:45 AM » |
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Like everyone before, i just dig this with the vocals--takes the song to a whole different level. Hip cred? Yep. No question the boys across the pond would have dug it.
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