SUPER MEGA SPOILER THREAD

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Good Vibrations "Persuasion"  (134). Anyone heard this before?

[Cliff1000uk]

I was trying to work out what Teeter Totter Love reminded me of..a simple chord progression going on in the background with bizarre shouty vocals...and then it hit me: Drip Drop

Reminds me of a gently steaming pile of sh*t.

Would that be a gently steaming pile of sh*t, Motherfugger?!

[exposedbrain]

Teeter Totter Love sounds great, way better than I expected. Reminds me of some of Shelly Manne's music for the tv show Daktari

[TonyW]

It reminds me of Monster Mash ... 

[monicker]

Teeter Totter Love just has connections to stuff of the period like French Yé-yé. I suspect those who are so appalled by it have a very narrow, stodgy view of music. And give me a break, the singing is not terrible. He sounds (much) better than Bob Dylan and some other revered "singers."When the HMV link got posted yesterday, this was the first track i went to play because, in my past experiences, when so many people speak THAT poorly of something, 9/10 times i have found that it ends up being something truly great.

The sound quality is blowing me away too. It's crazy that it was sourced from an acetate, i would have never known. What's the other Jasper Daily track from the period that hasn't surfaced?

Also, i cannot believe how great the transition between the ending of YAMS and Barnshine is. That sounds perfect. I'm really happy about that. It might be my new favorite transition in all of this music. That alone will make up for eliminating the hard cut into the bicycle rider chorus in Worms, and eliminating the hard cut going into the chorus of Wind Chimes. The hard cuts all over Smile were always, for me, one of many amazing details that elevated these recordings to another level. It's really a shame that this release seems to be doing away with them completely. But it's the sessions that matter here anyway, so screw tracks 1-19.

Speaking of which, does anyone have any clue why spectral editing software wasn't used for the Humble Harv vocals? I honestly do not like being the negative nancy type, but that just seems completely inexcusable. Within 24 hours of the release, "amateurs" in their bedroom, i'm sure, will be successfully isolating the IIGS/Barnyard demo vocals.

[runnersdialzero]

I'm in a lot of bands and I've not once seen that. I think that's a really really strange coincidence.

Okay.

[JMZ]

Speaking of which, does anyone have any clue why spectral editing software wasn't used for the Humble Harv vocals? I honestly do not like being the negative nancy type, but that just seems completely inexcusable. Within 24 hours of the release, "amateurs" in their bedroom, i'm sure, will be successfully isolating the IIGS/Barnyard demo vocals.

The clue is that "spectral editing software" is still hard to handle and get good results with. Even those days. And also, these software can be massive audio artefacts generators. I prefer 10 times that Mark Linett respected the audio material as much as he could by not using this kind of software on his mix.

And by the way, I really like how he decided to mix the piano/vocals upfront in Barnyard, rather than trying by any mean to "integrate" Brian's vocals as if they were a "standard" overdub. This is clever and works rather well IMO.

Let's leave the "spectral manipulations" to amateurs for their "bedroom" fan-mixes

[Freddie French-Pounce]

72    My Only Sunshine (Part 2: Master Take With Vocal Overdubs)

It says WITH vocal overdubs, when its actually ONLY the barnshine vocal overdubs!

[Matt Bielewicz]

THE SUPER-COOL VEGA-TABLES DEMO BACKING VOCALS ARE ON THE 45 VINYL MIX OF VEGA-TABLES!!!!!!!

You know, 'Run all around dig a hole in the ground'

and

'Pop those buttons right off of my shirt'

!!!!!!

!!!!!!

Mind... blown...

[Wrightfan]

72    My Only Sunshine (Part 2: Master Take With Vocal Overdubs)

It says WITH vocal overdubs, when its actually ONLY the barnshine vocal overdubs!

Part 2 probably means Barnshine. Part 1 being Old Master Painter/Sunshine

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

What's the story with the new percussion sounds on Wind Chimes?

[Freddie French-Pounce]

72    My Only Sunshine (Part 2: Master Take With Vocal Overdubs)

It says WITH vocal overdubs, when its actually ONLY the barnshine vocal overdubs!

Part 2 probably means Barnshine. Part 1 being Old Master Painter/Sunshine

I realise that, but it says with, when its a capella

[Matt Bielewicz]

What's the story with the new percussion sounds on Wind Chimes?

The mix just brings out some of the percussion that is on the tape, and was there in earlier mixes, but mixed very low and thus hard to hear. It's clearer now. There's a sort of weird detuned piano thing that happens as well, just before the quiet opening verses/marimba section goes into the loud chorus section. I don't remember hearing this little bit before.

MattB

[Runaways]

THE SUPER-COOL VEGA-TABLES DEMO BACKING VOCALS ARE ON THE 45 VINYL MIX OF VEGA-TABLES!!!!!!!

You know, 'Run all around dig a hole in the ground'

and

'Pop those buttons right off of my shirt'

!!!!!!

!!!!!!

Mind... blown...

my vinyl to cd recorder will be put to use on that one....vinyl -> cd -> itunes -> ipod.

POSSIBLY ROUNDABOUT. 

[Matt Bielewicz]

...and another spoiler, already mentioned on its own thread, as I just thought it was SOOoo cool, but I have to put it in here too...

The isolated Baldwin overdub for the Smiley Smile H&V chorus is available as a hidden track on Disc 3 of the 5-disc set.

How cool is that?

I know some folks don't like the Baldwin, but I also know it has its fans (of which I am one). And I can't get over how freaking cool this little part sounds.

[Matt Bielewicz]

Also: the sessionography in the box explains a VERY INTERESTING fact:

...to wit, the 'rinky-dink' organ part on Vega-Tables, the part Brian played directly into a mono mix (remember the endless takes of it you can hear him doing unsuccessfully on SOT17) and which was included at the very end of the *Smiley Smile* version of Vegetables...

...was actually done at a *Smiley* mono mix session (June 3rd), not a SMiLE one. Which, I guess, is why that part is NOT on the box anywhere. That'll necessitate the reworking of quite a few fan mixes...! (several of mine included...)

MattB

[guitarfool2002]

The DaDa Fender Rhodes bit...holy crap, that's soulful and funky as hell! It makes you wonder what direction Brian's music would have gone, or would have been perceived, had he substituted either the Baldwin or the detuned piano for a Rhodes on certain tracks, Wild Honey-era. The feel that Brian had playing chords was so damn unique and good!

It's amazing how the timbre of a keyboard like the Rhodes can instantly add *soul* to a piano track you've heard many times before. Makes you wonder "what if?" And why did he abandon that beautiful Rhodes sound in the first place...

[Matt Bielewicz]

my vinyl to cd recorder will be put to use on that one....vinyl -> cd -> itunes -> ipod.

POSSIBLY ROUNDABOUT. 

Roundabout? Hell no - I mean, what other way is there to do it? I ripped my vinyl singles (and Side 4 of the album) Friday night, and it's all right there on my iPod already.

Bit mad, I grant you: the original analogue tapes were digitised by Mark Linett for the project, mixed in digital, then cut to analogue vinyl, then I ripped them back to digital again to go onto the iPod...

...er, OK, I see what you mean. It *is* roundabout...!

MattB

[runnersdialzero]

Also: the sessionography in the box explains a VERY INTERESTING fact:

...to wit, the 'rinky-dink' organ part on Vega-Tables, the part Brian played directly into a mono mix (remember the endless takes of it you can hear him doing unsuccessfully on SOT17) and which was included at the very end of the *Smiley Smile* version of Vegetables...

...was actually done at a *Smiley* mono mix session (June 3rd), not a SMiLE one. Which, I guess, is why that part is NOT on the box anywhere. That'll necessitate the reworking of quite a few fan mixes...! (several of mine included...)

MattB

Several items on these mixes and several tracks all together on here are post-Smile, though. Unless you mean that track only exists on the mixdown and nowhere else. Unealaejg9hwearjh98ase5h84698

[Mahalo]

Also: the sessionography in the box explains a VERY INTERESTING fact:

...to wit, the 'rinky-dink' organ part on Vega-Tables, the part Brian played directly into a mono mix (remember the endless takes of it you can hear him doing unsuccessfully on SOT17) and which was included at the very end of the *Smiley Smile* version of Vegetables...

...was actually done at a *Smiley* mono mix session (June 3rd), not a SMiLE one. Which, I guess, is why that part is NOT on the box anywhere. That'll necessitate the reworking of quite a few fan mixes...! (several of mine included...)

MattB

Several items on these mixes and several tracks all together on here are post-Smile, though. Unless you mean that track only exists on the mixdown and nowhere else. Unealaejg9hwearjh98ase5h84698

I was going to say that exact same thing....

[Micha]

Also: the sessionography in the box explains a VERY INTERESTING fact:

...to wit, the 'rinky-dink' organ part on Vega-Tables, the part Brian played directly into a mono mix (remember the endless takes of it you can hear him doing unsuccessfully on SOT17) and which was included at the very end of the *Smiley Smile* version of Vegetables...

...was actually done at a *Smiley* mono mix session (June 3rd), not a SMiLE one. Which, I guess, is why that part is NOT on the box anywhere. That'll necessitate the reworking of quite a few fan mixes...! (several of mine included...)

MattB

Yup, noted that too. I'll keep in in my V-T mix anyway.

My mix is soooooo historically inaccurate... it features BWPS vocals and even one part of the tribute show (when was that again? around 2000 some time).

[c-man]

Also: the sessionography in the box explains a VERY INTERESTING fact:

...to wit, the 'rinky-dink' organ part on Vega-Tables, the part Brian played directly into a mono mix (remember the endless takes of it you can hear him doing unsuccessfully on SOT17) and which was included at the very end of the *Smiley Smile* version of Vegetables...

...was actually done at a *Smiley* mono mix session (June 3rd), not a SMiLE one. Which, I guess, is why that part is NOT on the box anywhere. That'll necessitate the reworking of quite a few fan mixes...! (several of mine included...)

MattB

Several items on these mixes and several tracks all together on here are post-Smile, though. Unless you mean that track only exists on the mixdown and nowhere else. Unealaejg9hwearjh98ase5h84698

Yep, that's why.  It'll have to wait for the Smiley Smile box set.  (Just kidding)