Mike Love types in other bands?

[SMiLE Brian]

You guys should read up on what it was like working with Captain Beefheart.

I did, it was a miracle they didn't kill him after the crap he put them through in making trout mask replica.

[hypehat]

The anti-Oasis vibe here is staggering and confounding. Shows the kind of work that the media can do. It's like "Disco Sucks!" all over again!

This is so funny it's almost unbelievable. The media LOVE Oasis. If they didn't, i might stop hearing about their friggin' awful solo records every couple of days. If there's a single Oasis song that has the class, attention to detail or basic respect for humanity of a CHIC Organisation production, that sh*t has not even been bootlegged. I have WASTED FORMATIVE YEARS in the belief Oasis were worthwhile.

Well, your not wasting your years now, believing about the greatest band ever, THE BEACH BOYS!!!.

HOOORAY TO THAT 

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

J.C. Fogerty

Word!

Fogerty is obviously an insanely talented guy, but from what I've read and heard regarding him, it wasn't any fun being in a band with him and his behavior seemed to be aggressively antagonistic toward the other guys.

He still talks crap about their playing, which boggles my mind because Creedence (for my money) had one of the best rhythm sections of all time. Sure he wrote the songs, but there is a lot more to being a convincing band than the material alone. 

[Magic Transistor Radio]

Would I be accurate in saying that there is a similar split in Beatle fandom? Pro McCartney fans who dislike Lennon and visa versa?

I don't think Peter Tork was egotistical, was he? I don't know of any Monkee that has a Mike Love reputation. Davy Jones might be the least talented.

[hypehat]

The Lennon/Macca divide isn't anywhere near as strong, though. ALthough more people hate Macca, I don't think it's for the same reasons people hate Love. Although he did break up The Beatles, imo.

[rogerlancelot]

Peter Tork is neither talentless nor a jerk. The definition at the start of this thread was "egotistical talentless jerk". Davy Jones all the way! You're all familiar with the '86 reunion recordings and all? His latest putdowns about every other member of the band (especially Mike Nesmith)? And although late in the Monkees career he co-wrote a couple of songs. Besides "You And I" (1969) can anyone else here even remember a single other song with any kind of substance? He makes Micky Dolenz look like a genius.....

[runnersdialzero]

If there's a single Oasis song that has the class, attention to detail or basic respect for humanity of a CHIC Organisation production, that sh*t has not even been bootlegged. I have WASTED FORMATIVE YEARS in the belief Oasis were worthwhile.

I don't know. When it comes to egotistical, talentless jerks I think the Gallagher brothers, particularly Liam, beat Mike hands down.

Noel's egotism is justified. Liam's, not so much. Regardless, 90% of the time, they say what they say to willingly fuck with people. Regardless, Mikey boi has done several more f*cked up things than either of those two combined. Getting thrown off a ferry for being drunk isn't terribly douchey, just stupid.

The Oasis hate around here is indeed staggering. Listen to "The Masterplan" or "Talk Tonight", you fuckers.

When it comes to running a name into the ground and taking a ride on the nostalgia train for one too many years, Jerry Only of the Misfits may have Mike Love beaten.

[Dead Parrot]

The Oasis hate around here is indeed staggering. Listen to "The Masterplan" or "Talk Tonight", you fuckers.

Or..
Acquiesce
Half The World Away
Flashbax
Gas Panic
Columbia
One Way Road
Part of the Queue
Going Nowhere
Just Getting Older

[runnersdialzero]

The Oasis hate around here is indeed staggering. Listen to "The Masterplan" or "Talk Tonight", you fuckers.

Or..
Acquiesce
Half The World Away
Flashbax
Gas Panic
Columbia
One Way Road
Part of the Queue
Going Nowhere
Just Getting Older

Or...

*goes on*

[Mike's Beard]

Peter Tork is neither talentless nor a jerk. The definition at the start of this thread was "egotistical talentless jerk". Davy Jones all the way! You're all familiar with the '86 reunion recordings and all? His latest putdowns about every other member of the band (especially Mike Nesmith)? And although late in the Monkees career he co-wrote a couple of songs. Besides "You And I" (1969) can anyone else here even remember a single other song with any kind of substance? He makes Micky Dolenz look like a genius.....

Guys you do realise my Peter Tork remark was a joke right? The most musically gifted member of the Monkees was also the most passive and as a result had relatively few of his songs on albums. The two assholes of the band were Mike Nesmith and Davy Jones. However I defend Nesmith's right to be an asshole as he had the talent, songs and drive to back it up. It was mainly due to his insistence that the band were able to wrest control of their output after the second record and play on the recordings. All Jones did was rattle a tambourine and his endless slagging of other band members over the years is unreal.

[Alex]

Aren`t we forgetting the biggest talentless douche of them all...W. Axl Rose!                                      And speaking of Oasis, What`s the Story Morning Glory is a freakin` Beatles ripoff masterpiece! No one plagiarizes 60s pop better than Noel.

[hypehat]

Not to derail the thread with talk of Oasis.....

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10772.0.html

[Iron Horse-Apples]

The anti-Oasis vibe here is staggering and confounding. Shows the kind of work that the media can do. It's like "Disco Sucks!" all over again!

I read an interview with Oasis in the early 90's, when they were pretty much unknown. Halfway through the interview one of the two twats ripped into the Beach Boys, dismissing them as "hippy s h i t", whilst extolling the Beatles in the same breath. This sort of put me against them. Then when I heard their feeble attempts at music my dislike turned to hate. Fast forward a few years to when everyone and their mother loved Oasis, to when Noel Gallagher was being called a genius, I felt as if I was the only sane person in Bedlam. Do these people not have ears?

And I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone could be a fan of Oasis and The Beach Boys

To me that is like being a fan of a pile of turd and.....er.....The Beach Boys.

I don't need the media, or anyone else to tell me what to think of Oasis.

Beach Boy fan since '88

Oasis Hater since '92

And eternal bedfellow of Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart

I thank you

And goodnight

[Mike's Beard]

Liam Gallagher is not worthy to carry Mike Love's turban.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Oasis - OK, but I prefer my Beatles straight.

[Cam Mott]

  Cat Mother and the All Night Newsboys- Cat was a total mother.

Agreed, saw them in Kansas City with some follow up band. I think he had a John Sebastian Complex.

[hypehat]

A John Sebastian complex?

[Andrew G. Doe]

A John Sebastian complex?

Favors jeans, tie-dyes and wire-rimmed glasses.

[18thofMay]

I have seen O a sis twice first time completely off their freakin heads second time one off the greatest performances ever.. Sound familiar! I had the chance to have a few quiet ones with the brothers and it was a good laugh! Daniel johns and I compared smile thoughts whilst drinking with the lads

[Cam Mott]

A John Sebastian complex?

Yeah, Sebastian is a supreme prick...no wait....that's not it...Cat Mother and the All Night Newsboys wished they were the Lovin' Spoonful as I remember.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

The anti-Oasis vibe here is staggering and confounding. Shows the kind of work that the media can do. It's like "Disco Sucks!" all over again!

I read an interview with Oasis in the early 90's, when they were pretty much unknown. Halfway through the interview one of the two twats ripped into the Beach Boys, dismissing them as "hippy s h i t", whilst extolling the Beatles in the same breath. This sort of put me against them. Then when I heard their feeble attempts at music my dislike turned to hate. Fast forward a few years to when everyone and their mother loved Oasis, to when Noel Gallagher was being called a genius, I felt as if I was the only sane person in Bedlam. Do these people not have ears?

You're right. There was an advanced study that showed that the people who made What's The Story Morning Glory the 4th biggest selling album in the UK of all time had no ears. The study went on to show that the people who actively disliked Oasis DID have ears and really "knew their music."

Also, I have a hard time believing your claim. You're telling me you don't like Oasis because they put down The Beach Boys but not The Beatles? I can't believe that you would seriously consider that a valid enough reason for dismissing their music.

And I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone could be a fan of Oasis and The Beach Boys

To me that is like being a fan of a pile of turd and.....er.....The Beach Boys.

Is that what it's like? That's quite the analysis.

[ghost]

Oasis and others were part of a defining overall scene for 90s English pop music. If you put on their first album it just sounds like being in England in that year. That's the appeal they had and still have to many I'd imagine. They are a good old boys in the pub sort of band. With all the overconfidence & swagger of youth to back it up. Now they're old and have turned into the Rolling Stones. They will live forever like Mike Love & Bruce Johnston touring.

[Sam_BFC]

Oasis were the band that pretty much turned me onto music.  I went to a couple of their gigs in the past...to this day I like a lot of their songs and after Beach Boys related CDs I probably have more Oasis than any other artist in my collection.  Although these days I prefer The Stone Roses for that kind of thing.

The disappointing thing about Oasis is they never really grew musically and their last few albums were just entirely ordinary as far as I am concerned...or maybe I just grew out of them.

I don't really like Liam, but Noel seems to have his head screwed on a bit more.  Still I think I remember a quote where he criticised Brian Wilson for not writing his own lyrics or some such...how saying the same to Noel about not producing his own records ?

[Iron Horse-Apples]

The anti-Oasis vibe here is staggering and confounding. Shows the kind of work that the media can do. It's like "Disco Sucks!" all over again!

I read an interview with Oasis in the early 90's, when they were pretty much unknown. Halfway through the interview one of the two twats ripped into the Beach Boys, dismissing them as "hippy s h i t", whilst extolling the Beatles in the same breath. This sort of put me against them. Then when I heard their feeble attempts at music my dislike turned to hate. Fast forward a few years to when everyone and their mother loved Oasis, to when Noel Gallagher was being called a genius, I felt as if I was the only sane person in Bedlam. Do these people not have ears?

You're right. There was an advanced study that showed that the people who made What's The Story Morning Glory the 4th biggest selling album in the UK of all time had no ears. The study went on to show that the people who actively disliked Oasis DID have ears and really "knew their music."

Also, I have a hard time believing your claim. You're telling me you don't like Oasis because they put down The Beach Boys but not The Beatles? I can't believe that you would seriously consider that a valid enough reason for dismissing their music.

And I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone could be a fan of Oasis and The Beach Boys

To me that is like being a fan of a pile of turd and.....er.....The Beach Boys.

Is that what it's like? That's quite the analysis.

I'm sure everyone has a pet hate that makes them unreasonable, and mine is Oasis. I hate them so much that it actually feels nice, and I dismiss their music because it is rubbish. I don't care how many people bought it. Owning an Oasis album is as idiotic as owning a mobile (cell) phone imo History would be full of forgotten fads if they hadn't been forgotten.

...and the analysis was what it was, sorry you didn't get the point. Oasis are turds basically. Couldn't be simpler.

90% of their music is a pale regurgitation of someone else's, and the other 10% is just too foul to contemplate. Their success is a sad reflection of the decline in musical standards which has been occurring gradually with brief respites since the early 19th century. If I could return to the 18th century I would leave today, and bollocks to the boxset!

Just imagine a bewigged, pantaloon clad, counterpoint composing smiley inserted right here. Oasis are knob-heads of the highest order.

I of course respect your right to form an opinion, odious and repugnant though it is.

(and lay off the sarcasm, you're terrible at it....)

[bossaroo]

I really can't see the comparison with Fogerty or Waters, both were the chief creative forces of their respective bands. it makes sense they would call most of the shots.

Paul Revere seems pretty right-on. He's content being a nostalgia act, replacing every member of the band if necessary.


I think McGuinn and Crosby of the Byrds are similar to Mike in a lot of ways... McGuinn especially. neither was much of a writer, yet they kept much of Gene Clark's brilliant material from being released. McGuinn became the leader by default, but his talents never matched those of bandmates like Clark, Gram Parsons, Clarence White, or Chris Hillman.

and speaking of Crosby, Stephen Stills is an egotistical ass as well. in fact, CSN might be like 3 Mikes in one band!