Beach Boys vinyl

[SMiLE Brian]

By the way for anyone who for feels like picking up a Pet Sounds vinyl, to my horror they sell it in Urban Outfitters, I guess Pet Sounds really is a hipster album

Cripes.

Ok, gotta shake it.

Two sources for vinyl that I'll let you know about   are gemm.com and elusivedisc.com. The latter has all kinds of vinyl related goodies and hardware as well. New and rare/collectables.

Gemm has sources from all over the world, I've had some luck there with really obscure things - although they're a bit well known now. In fact I just got a newsletter for the first time ever - after over 15 years of shopping there.

Of course it's hard to beat local stores as you can lay hands on the disc in question.

I've also had tremendous luck (as others have mentioned) on ebay. I've ordered many albums that really were mint or better, only once did I get burned. And for $15 it's hard to get too pissed - just give 'em a bad rating.

I will check these websites out, and i will ask urban outfitters when they are getting copies of smiley smile, love you, and the early surf and car albums.

[FUN³]

check the ebay, but wherever you shop, keep your peepers peeled for the 80's capitol green label represses (check for the green sticker). those are yum; i ended up getting originals, and then picking up the green labels when i saw them. they can usually be had on the cheap and are really incredible sounding.

[WaxOn]

I just had a perfect example of what's not good about ordering from sources like e-bay.

Nothing to do with the seller, quality of item or the way it was packaged.

I got back home yesterday and looked over at the mailbox, and there leaning next to it in the sun was my LP. The mailman (probably not the regular) didn't come up and put it on the front porch as they do all over-sized items. It was 102° here in the shade yesterday. Who knows how long the thing had been sitting out there, leaning at an angle, soaking up the heat. And yes, the box was HOT. So, I ran inside, pulled it out of the packaging and put it flat on a table with a stack of books on top of the LP.

I haven't had a chance to see if it's messed up or not - but there's an advantage to buying in a shop!

[hypehat]

Yeah, like going home on the tube, and it being rush hour on the Central line where 100 people cram into tiny carriages really quickly, and your new flimsy vinyl gets caught in the throng and snaps   

[WaxOn]

Yeah, like going home on the tube, and it being rush hour on the Central line where 100 people cram into tiny carriages really quickly, and your new flimsy vinyl gets caught in the throng and snaps  

I'll take my Rural problems over your Urban ones any day friend!
I don't miss that lifestyle one bit.

check the ebay, but wherever you shop, keep your peepers peeled for the 80's capitol green label represses (check for the green sticker). those are yum; i ended up getting originals, and then picking up the green labels when i saw them. they can usually be had on the cheap and are really incredible sounding.

Now you have me confused.
The Green Label ones were late 60's to early 70's, mostly lime green with the "new logo" (funky "C") on them. Also, if I'm not mistaken (and somebody here surely knows) many were also the Record Club versions - the ones with a black "C". I had always assumed that record club LP's were pressings from an older master and not as good, but some folks here swear by 'em.

http://www.friktech.com/btls/capitol/capitollabels.pdf
http://www.friktech.com/btls/rci.htm
http://www.shaded-dog.de/label/Capitol.cfm

All of the ones produced through most of the mid-late 70's were a typo solution that sort of bled off the bottom of the label. The links here shows red only - I'm inclined to believe that - but I can always go fish some out and look!

I'm not aware of any green label in the 80's, as I thought they went to black in the 80's, and then returned to the rainbow. I think I have a 180 gram that's black only that's old - the newer ones are the rainbow.

Any label aficionados out there?

[?]

The 80's green label is dark green like this one (not my auction):

http://cgi.ebay.com/BEACH-BOYS-BEACH-BOYS-CONCERT-LP-CAPITOL-NM-/110710319969?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item19c6d96b61

And yeah, these are amazing pressings.

[WaxOn]

The 80's green label is dark green like this one (not my auction):
http://cgi.ebay.com/BEACH-BOYS-BEACH-BOYS-CONCERT-LP-CAPITOL-NM-/110710319969?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item19c6d96b61
And yeah, these are amazing pressings.

Ah-ha!
I haven't seen those!
And, being my cynical self, I would assume anything printed in the '80's as "A Capitol Value" when LP's were on the steep decline was total crap.

Thanks!

Anybody know a bit of history behind these?
It'd be interesting to know the period these were printed, pre CD (early 80's) or post (mid-on).

[gxios]

For the most part, the 80's green labels are very good.  Stay away from "Today", and "Summer Days" which are rechannelled.  Pet Sounds is ok, but I still like the Warner cut of that one.  I also like the Capital original of "Friends" over the green label- there seems to be more dynamic range.  The rest are fine.  "Surfer Girl" lp is superb- they conquered all the heavy sibilances that are on all the other presses.

[Cliff1000uk]

I have the 2xcoloured vinyl (green and gold) Pet Sounds set, which sounds absolutely amazing.

Is the PS remaster mentioned above in Urban Outfitters any better?

[hypehat]

It's the 2006 180g Capitol remaster, and it sounds great to these ears!

[D409]

I found my vinyl copy of Pacific Ocean Blue in the £1.00 bin in a second-hand record store in Guildford, it was out of print at the time, couldn't believe my luck, bought it and left quickly thinking the guy obviously didn't realise what it was ! The actual record was a bit worn and scratchy, the inner sleeve had been replaced by the one from "Saturday Night Fever" but it sounded tremendous - bassy and huge. My first introduction to this wonderful album. I bought the deluxe double CD edition when it came out a couple of years ago, which sounds pretty good, but will continue to enjoy the deep vibrations and the subtleties of the vinyl, particularly on the tracks Moonshine and Time.

[Custom Machine]

It'd be interesting to know the period these were printed, pre CD (early 80's) or post (mid-on).

The dark green Capitol label probably dates to at least October 1980 when, according to Brad Elliot's book, reissues of truncated 10 track versions of Surfin' Safari, Shut Down Vol 2 (retitled Fun Fun Fun), All Summer Long, Summer Days and Summer Nights (retitled California Girls), and Beach Boys Today (retitled Dance Dance Dance) were once again released.

In April 1981 I purchased green label reissue copies of Wild Honey, Friends, and 20/20.  At that time they didn't have the "A Capitol Value" sticker on them, and they were priced $5.99.  In August 86 I purchased eight more of the green label LPs, with "A Capitol Value" stickers on them, and price tags of $3.99, $4.99, and $5.98.  (Chronologically, starting with Party, and including Concert, the green label reissues, thankfully, were no longer stripped of two tracks.)

In Oct 94 I purchased the entire original Capitol LP series once again, when all of the non-greatest hits albums were reissued, except for the Christmas Album.  By now we were firmly entrenched in the CD era, so Capitol went to extra trouble to make these album reissues appealing. They were all done with the original Capitol rainbow label (except for Smiley Smile with the Brother label) and matched the originals that had fold-over covers, along with a booklet for Concert, pics for Party, and book for Stack o Tracks.

[WaxOn]

Hmm, so it appears as if the green label was around from 80 to about 86? Interesting.

I'm pretty familiar with anything in the 90's, or the 60's and 70's.
Any BB's I purchased was in the 70's or recent reissues/remasters. While I was still buying vinyl in the mid 80's on, I can't remember any groups being on Capitol any time in the 80's. Oh wait, I can think of 2 Capitol records in early 80's - The Tubes, but those were custom labels I believe. Now I have to go dig through my LP's to see what might be on a Capitol label during that period.

Thanks!

[Custom Machine]

Hmm, so it appears as if the green label was around from 80 to about 86? Interesting.

The dark green label probably was available past '86, but I don't know exactly how long.  I'm guessing that label was used only for their less expensive "value" reissues.

[metal flake paint]

For the most part, the 80's green labels are very good.  Stay away from "Today", and "Summer Days" which are rechannelled.  Pet Sounds is ok, but I still like the Warner cut of that one.  I also like the Capital original of "Friends" over the green label- there seems to be more dynamic range.  The rest are fine.  "Surfer Girl" lp is superb- they conquered all the heavy sibilances that are on all the other presses.

Always intrigued me that the cuts that were deleted from these two issues (namely In the Back Of My Mind, Amusement Parks U.S.A. and I'm Bugged At My Old Man) were released in mono on the Be True To Your School compilation. Begs the question why those two LPs weren't released thus.

[bgas]

It'd be interesting to know the period these were printed, pre CD (early 80's) or post (mid-on).

The dark green Capitol label probably dates to at least October 1980 when, according to Brad Elliot's book, reissues of truncated 10 track versions of Surfin' Safari, Shut Down Vol 2 (retitled Fun Fun Fun), All Summer Long, Summer Days and Summer Nights (retitled California Girls), and Beach Boys Today (retitled Dance Dance Dance) were once again released.

In April 1981 I purchased green label reissue copies of Wild Honey, Friends, and 20/20.  At that time they didn't have the "A Capitol Value" sticker on them, and they were priced $5.99.  In August 86 I purchased eight more of the green label LPs, with "A Capitol Value" stickers on them, and price tags of $3.99, $4.99, and $5.98.  (Chronologically, starting with Party, and including Concert, the green label reissues, thankfully, were no longer stripped of two tracks.)

In Oct 94 I purchased the entire original Capitol LP series once again, when all of the non-greatest hits albums were reissued, except for the Christmas Album.  By now we were firmly entrenched in the CD era, so Capitol went to extra trouble to make these album reissues appealing. They were all done with the original Capitol rainbow label (except for Smiley Smile with the Brother label) and matched the originals that had fold-over covers, along with a booklet for Concert, pics for Party, and book for Stack o Tracks.

I missed these somehow, or ignored them, maybe.  But you'e saying that Concert, Party and SOT were almost identical to their earlier releases?  Do they have newer catalog numbers on them, so they can be differentiated from the outside( if they're sealed) ?

[Custom Machine]

It'd be interesting to know the period these were printed, pre CD (early 80's) or post (mid-on).

In Oct 94 I purchased the entire original Capitol LP series once again, when all of the non-greatest hits albums were reissued, except for the Christmas Album.  By now we were firmly entrenched in the CD era, so Capitol went to extra trouble to make these album reissues appealing. They were all done with the original Capitol rainbow label (except for Smiley Smile with the Brother label) and matched the originals that had fold-over covers, along with a booklet for Concert, pics for Party, and book for Stack o Tracks.

I missed these somehow, or ignored them, maybe.  But you'e saying that Concert, Party and SOT were almost identical to their earlier releases?  Do they have newer catalog numbers on them, so they can be differentiated from the outside( if they're sealed) ?

Very easy to identify the 1994 reissues - they all have bar codes on the back with new catalog numbers.  Rather than the original 60's album cover construction with slicks pasted on gray paperboard, (except for 20/20, which originally featured the new Unipak construction), the '94 reissues use the modern method of printing the artwork directly on white paperboard.  On most of the '94 reissues, the cover art covers the entire front, so there is no white border (or in the case of Friends, a black border). 

Concert uses a mono cover, but is actually in stereo.  The pictures inside Party do not have perforations, but instead black dots printed where the perforations were on the original pictures.  The Smily Smile Brother label also features the Capitol logo.  The Stack o Tracks booklet looks identical to the original, but has the new catalog number on the back.    The '94 20/20 is a fold-over cover, but does not use the original thin cover Unipak design, which probably hadn't been used on album covers for around 20 years.  All of the Duophonic/rechanneled stereo albums are presented in mono, even though some say "Duphonoic for Stereo Phonographs" or "For Stereo Phonographs". The discs are in plastic innersleves, rather than paper.

I'm guessing not many of the '94 reissues were sold, as during this time we were firmly entrenched in the CD era, with many people gladly dumping their old LPs.  Today vinyl is enjoying somewhat of a resurgence, but the eternal mystery is why Summer in Paradise and Stars and Stripes have never seen release on vinyl.  (Actually maybe those albums were released on vinyl somewhere in the world, but the owners of such albums may be reluctant to reveal their ownership.  Ah, heck, I may as well admit it, I'd buy 'em both if they were released on vinyl at a reasonable price.)

[Mikie]

But the eternal mystery is why Summer in Paradise and Stars and Stripes have never seen release on vinyl.

Summer In Paradise was released on vinyl in Korea, and I think Australia.

[smile-holland]

... but the eternal mystery is why Summer in Paradise and Stars and Stripes have never seen release on vinyl.  (Actually maybe those albums were released on vinyl somewhere in the world, but the owners of such albums may be reluctant to reveal their ownership.  Ah, heck, I may as well admit it, I'd buy 'em both if they were released on vinyl at a reasonable price.)

You were aware that Summer In Paradise was in fact released on vinyl, albeit only in South Korea?

EDIT: ah, Mikie beat me to it. Forgot the name of the label, but it was Korean, and released in that country + Australia only, as far as I can recall.

In case one needs proof: found this on the web, but if necesary I can make better pictures as I have a copy as well.

[bgas]

And Stars and Stripes, while not making it to vinyl, did make it to the test pressing/acetate  stage, as I have one(  maybe the only surviving one?)
 The labels have xerox copies of the graphics glued on and hand printed side info.
 Smells just like an acetate should!  10 inch, not 12.  Front and back covers with the two sides showing:   

   

   

[Mikie]

Mikie beat me to it. Forgot the name of the label, but it was Korean, and released in that country + Australia only, as far as I can recall.

Summer In Paradise (vinyl) was issued on the "Sampony/Sung Eum" label.

[Custom Machine]

Thanks for the info, guys.  My collection is obviously woefully incomplete!

[smile-holland]

And Stars and Stripes, while not making it to vinyl, did make it to the test pressing/acetate  stage, as I have one(  maybe the only surviving one?)
 The labels have xerox copies of the graphics glued on and hand printed side info.
 Smells just like an acetate should!  10 inch, not 12.  Front and back covers with the two sides showing:   

   

   

Nice one !

[MBE]

Even if it sucks I would love Stars and Stripes on vinyl just to have a complete collection.

[Andrew G. Doe]

And Stars and Stripes, while not making it to vinyl, did make it to the test pressing/acetate  stage, as I have one(  maybe the only surviving one?)
 The labels have xerox copies of the graphics glued on and hand printed side info.
 Smells just like an acetate should!  10 inch, not 12.  Front and back covers with the two sides showing:  

    

    

Only seven songs, however...