If you could go back in time and change anything about any Beach Boys song...

[Ram4]

I can't stand their quick fadeouts on so many songs in the 60's.  They should have allowed those songs to go a good 10-20 seconds longer.  Probably had some AM radio BS behind that move.  For example - the Fun Fun Fun stereo mix fades out right away right when they get into the coda where Brian is doing his thing.  At least we have the longer mono version. 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I think this thread would be more interesting if we kept specifically and strictly to the premise--not about including things on albums, or whether a song should have even been recorded or not, but about intra-song changes.  It still has to be recognizable at the end of the day.

And in order to suggest a change, you should have to supply what's necessary if possible.  So if you think lyrics should be changed, you have to write new ones.

Mixing decisions are an interesting discussion.

By the way, I think there's pretty convincing evidence that Dennis DID record the lead for IJWMFTT and it was recorded over.

Good idea! I would change the length of SS "Wind Chimes" - the ending is too short. Why not make it last longer? It's the most ethereal and beautiful moment of Smiley Smile imo!

Yeah, why not add a Bob Dylan feat on it adding a verse with his creepy voice man!

[Ziggy Stardust]

hahahahaha

[Sheriff John Stone]

I think this thread would be more interesting if we kept specifically and strictly to the premise--not about including things on albums, or whether a song should have even been recorded or not, but about intra-song changes.  It still has to be recognizable at the end of the day.

And in order to suggest a change, you should have to supply what's necessary if possible.  So if you think lyrics should be changed, you have to write new ones.

Mixing decisions are an interesting discussion.

By the way, I think there's pretty convincing evidence that Dennis DID record the lead for IJWMFTT and it was recorded over.

Good idea! I would change the length of SS "Wind Chimes" - the ending is too short. Why not make it last longer? It's the most ethereal and beautiful moment of Smiley Smile imo!

Yeah, why not add a Bob Dylan feat on it adding a verse with his creepy voice man!

What's your comment supposed to mean? What does Bob Dylan have to do with Wind Chimes? 

The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind...

[runnersdialzero]

MOAR LIKE BLOWIN' GUYS

[Ziggy Stardust]

creepy voice man.

[runnersdialzero]

MOAR LIKE BLOWIN' GUYS

I'm not a guy. My name is Marianne. I choose my nick because of my fondness of the Range Rover cars. I used to watch Top Gear. That's why.

wat

[slickman9696]

I feel like a bunch of these were about talking parts in the songs. I feel like Santa Ana Winds could be a great song if it didn't have that stupid tidbit of information at the top of the track.

[runnersdialzero]

I feel like a bunch of these were about talking parts in the songs. I feel like Santa Ana Winds could be a great song if it didn't have that stupid tidbit of information at the top of the track.

Hey, piss off. The world didn't have Wikipedia back then to look this sh*t up. Honestly, I wish more songs opened with a speech stating exactly what the song was about.

[Newguy562]

Get rid of the spoken "I love you" on "Please Let Me Wonder".

Record a less goofy "You're under arrest" for H&V.

wtf why? when i hear "i love you" at the end it gives me goosebumps

[Newguy562]

1. Take that stupid sounding synthesizer out of "I'll bet he's nice".
2. On that's why god made the radio I'd use more of the first half of the chorus and change the versus.
3. On solar system I'd keep the chorus and change the topic and the versus.
3. Make ding dang longer.
4. Make child is the father of the man longer as well and towards the end I'd bring back the intro but let it fade away.
5. Take that annoying space sound out of funky pretty that's far in the background!

[runnersdialzero]

1. Take that stupid sounding synthesizer out of "I'll bet he's nice".

>: (

3. On solar system I'd keep the chorus and change the topic and the versus.

Hey, little tomboy, sit here on my lap
I got things that I gotta tell you
No more skateboards, put away your baseball mitt.
Your rough livin' days are through
You could find places to go
You could see that boys love you so
They're doin' it all over the world

Solar system
Brings us wisdom

Hey, little tomboy, I've had my eyes on you
Thinkin' what a girl you could be
Mmm, I smell perfume, let's try some cut-off jeans
Look at all the changes I see
I'm gonna teach you to kiss
You're gonna feel just like this
They're doin' it all over the world

Solar system
Brings us wisdom

[Newguy562]

1. Take that stupid sounding synthesizer out of "I'll bet he's nice".

>: (

3. On solar system I'd keep the chorus and change the topic and the versus.

Hey, little tomboy, sit here on my lap
I got things that I gotta tell you
No more skateboards, put away your baseball mitt.
Your rough livin' days are through
You could find places to go
You could see that boys love you so
They're doin' it all over the world

Solar system
Brings us wisdom

Hey, little tomboy, I've had my eyes on you
Thinkin' what a girl you could be
Mmm, I smell perfume, let's try some cut-off jeans
Look at all the changes I see
I'm gonna teach you to kiss
You're gonna feel just like this
They're doin' it all over the world

Solar system
Brings us wisdom

you like the synthesizer on i'll bet he's nice? it's creepy :/
and ha ha ha...matter of fact i wish he changed the whole top but used the melody of the chorus on solar system and made a not so cheesy song from it.

[Newguy562]

3. Make ding dang longer.
Agree on that.
5. Take that annoying space sound out of funky pretty that's far in the background!

Not so long ago I used to think the same way but eventually that spacey synths have grown on me and today I can't imagine the song without them.

it still hard for me to get used to them :/

[Sheriff John Stone]

I feel like a bunch of these were about talking parts in the songs. I feel like Santa Ana Winds could be a great song if it didn't have that stupid tidbit of information at the top of the track.

I totally agree, especially with "Santa Ana Winds". Which reminds me of another one, even though it is just one word, and I know it's gonna get me in trouble....But, I wish Carl would've left out that "Hi" at the beginning of "Trader". I always considered the song, while not overly serious, kind of arty. And the "Hi" is too gimicky and out of place, IMO.

[jpinmyroom]

Id go back to the 'love you' sessions and try to convince brian not to include the lyrics "we do it holding hands its so cold i go brrrr" in roller skating child.

[Wall of (Pet) Sound(s)]

Write less cheesy lyrics (or bring in a lyrical collaborator) for the songs Friends and When a Man Needs a Woman. Record better vocal for the verses on Be Here in the Mornin'. Friends is a brilliant album at times musically, but the lyrics on a couple of the tracks are downright embarrassing.

[Newguy562]

Write less cheesy lyrics (or bring in a lyrical collaborator) for the songs Friends and When a Man Needs a Woman. Record better vocal for the verses on Be Here in the Mornin'. Friends is a brilliant album at times musically, but the lyrics on a couple of the tracks are downright embarrassing.

most of the lyrics they did post smile was so cheesy :/ f*ck in their lyrics they say sh*t so embarassing it just makes you cringe..

[Runaways]

I kinda wish slip on through didn't have that metronome on it

[Newguy562]

I kinda wish slip on through didn't have that metronome on it

i kinda wish that song didnt exist..

[lance]

It's not a metronome it's cowbell given the Desper treatment ala Do It Again. Unless you're thinking about something. And that song is the SEXIEST the Beach Boys ever got, IMO.

[Smilin Ed H]

I don't know about songs but in terms of albums I'd add WIBNTLA and 4th of July to Surf's Up, Out in the Country to CATP, Hard Times and We Got Love; for LA, I'd add Santa Ana Winds, Lookin' Down the Coast, (finish and add) Don't Fight the Sea, California Feelin', (record a band version of and add) Country Pie and add the Lovester's I Don't Wanna Know (which I would have rather had on the new album instead of Daybreak...). I'd take off Sumahama, HCTN, Shortenin' Bread, Goin' South.

[Wall of (Pet) Sound(s)]

I don't know about songs but in terms of albums I'd add WIBNTLA and 4th of July to Surf's Up

Yes. I absolutely agree.

[bossaroo]

i absolutely LOVE all the lyrics on Friends (and Love You)

"Anna Lee" are easily the worst lyrics on Friends. what is embarrassing about "Friends" or "When A Man Needs A Woman"?!!

if you don't dig those lyrics, you don't quite "get" Brian.

if you don't like "Solar System" fine, but don't pretend that you can do it better.

[runnersdialzero]

most of the lyrics they did post smile was so cheesy :/ f*ck in their lyrics they say sh*t so embarassing it just makes you cringe..

i kinda wish that song didnt exist..

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