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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 03:29:33 PM »

however that it's hard to imagine it coming out well artistically. 

That's the way I feel. I mentioned the song 'Desert Drive' before and I'll stick with my example: Desert Drive isn't a bad song, it is just artistically uninteresting. There is nothing overly creative about it. Some of us would be happy with a Beach Boy album that had that rehashed that sound of the mid 60s Brian Wilson productions....others want the creative Brian - the Oxygen to the Brain Brian. I don't cringe at artistic creativity, I cringe when someone tries to capitalize on something that has been done FAR too many times before.

Ugh, people would be expecting hits like 'Kokomo' on the album, and Brian is FAR past that. It would be amazing if people bought the album expecting fun-in-the-sun hits and got an album that "people would pray to".....

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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2010, 07:39:55 PM »

I loved it back in the day when they were referred to as "Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys" by radio stations, concert promos,etc. After 1970, I never saw or heard that again. Cry
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2010, 07:44:07 PM »

Um, yeah, because Brian wasn't touring with them!
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2010, 07:50:04 PM »

Um, yeah, because Brian wasn't touring with them!
Um,uh-whatever -Brian stopped touring well before they stopped using the phrase.
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2010, 09:16:17 PM »

i def just mean a Beach Boys album with Brian in general.  I'd love a most brian thing, but if the covers album crap went down etc.  Just however opinion you have on it.  

i'd probably buy it regardless. unless it was all covers.  then heck no.  actually unless it's obviously got some good brian production behind it then no.
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2010, 10:03:19 PM »

I'd be happy to see them do a song together. Not as the Beach Boys but as friends and family who want to sing together.
Beyond that I don't want any albums. Let them play live but the Beach Boys as recording artists died with Carl Wilson imo.
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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2010, 10:53:54 PM »


And on his first day on the job as a Beach Boy, Dennis Wilson fired him.   Grin

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If this isn't completely accurate, maybe AGD or Stebbins will correct me. Foskett was hired by the Beach Boys - I think it was around Christmas time, 1981. He was at the airport to get to his first gig with the group. At the gate, he saw Dennis Wilson sleeping off the previous night's activities. He introduced himself to Dennis and told him that he was listening to some Beach Boys stuff the night before. He said to Dennis, "How about this old gem?", and he played a tape of "Auld Lang Syne" from the Beach Boys Christmas album. Dennis responded with, "How about this old gem? 'You're fired!'"


Seems rather vindictive for such a trivial "offense"(?) He was obviously in pretty bad shape by then and must have been REALLY grouchy that day, if the incident actually unfolded that way.
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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2010, 12:28:00 AM »

Um, yeah, because Brian wasn't touring with them!
Um,uh-whatever -Brian stopped touring well before they stopped using the phrase.

Um, concert promoters promoted/billed The Beach Boys in concert as "Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys" WELL after Brian had stopped touring???
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2010, 12:42:14 AM »

Hell, the promotional picture for a Beach Boys concert in West Virginia (?) recently showed Brian, Dennis and Carl.

Ah, truth in advertising.
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2010, 12:44:20 AM »

It would sell exactly the same as BWRG or TLOS.  Same audience.  Nobody else cares.  This isn't 1966 or even 1976.  Music barely sells these days as it is and the people that are buying certainly don't give a foder about the Beach Boys or Brian Wilson producing them.


Agree.
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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2010, 05:45:31 AM »

Um, yeah, because Brian wasn't touring with them!
Um,uh-whatever -Brian stopped touring well before they stopped using the phrase.

Um, concert promoters promoted/billed The Beach Boys in concert as "Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys" WELL after Brian had stopped touring???
After he stopped touring, they were still referred to as BW and the BB's on the radio quite a bit.
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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2010, 12:21:47 PM »

Well, in that case it would be certainly true  Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2010, 12:57:15 PM »

And on his first day on the job as a Beach Boy, Dennis Wilson fired him.   Grin

Didn't Dennis fire every single new person in the BBs organization the first time he'd meet someone?
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2010, 02:30:03 AM »

Just slap a sticker on the shrink-wrap that reads in big bold letters "PRODUCED BY BRIAN WILSON", and there you have it.  

I disagree. Many people don't know who Brian is nowadays and those who do probably wouldn't believe that he is up to producing a new album single handedly.

As others have said, the thing that could help the album would be the anniversary as that would immediately get massive publicity. If the band were to do one or two big concerts and a TV special then that couldn't hurt.

For the album itself, hiring an outside producer who would have the power to select or reject songs or ideas would be important. It would also allow the band members to spend a limited amount of time in each other's company as I can't see them collaborating together as they did in the old days.

I would try to make the song selection as democratic as possible picking a couple from Mike's solo album, You're Still a Mystery, one or two others from the Paley sessions maybe and then whatever new stuff the members could come up with. Plus I like the suggestion of including Dennis by completing one of his old songs and either having a Carl vocal or writing credit too.

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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2010, 02:56:44 AM »

This is not 1976 with the bands best years and line-up still fresh in the minds of a generation. This is 2010 with a scratch band at best minus the best voice.

A group should be like any artist. Set out with a vision that makes them happy, and if it is a good product, release it.

The day the most important consideration is how much money a reunion may earn.....its doomed!
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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2010, 03:29:49 AM »



A group should be like any artist. Set out with a vision that makes them happy, and if it is a good product, release it.


Not a chance with this band.

All of the members, certainly including Brian, care an awful lot about sales.
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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2010, 03:45:59 AM »

It must be hard to lose that kind of mindframe when you spent the first few years of your career getting No1 records.
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« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2010, 06:26:24 AM »

It must be hard to lose that kind of mindframe when you spent the first few years of your career getting No1 records.

Yeah, it should be. Except they've had almost 45 years to get used it.
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