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« Reply #6925 on: February 25, 2021, 05:48:23 AM »

Does anyone know if theres more information on this interview with Derek Taylor? On April 29, Taylor announced in Disc & Music Echo that "All the 12 songs for the new Beach Boys album (Smile) are completed and ... there are plans to release the album on a rush-schedule any moment." I wonder if Taylor was lying or just buying time or something or was Smile really "complete" at this point? So many questions!!
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« Reply #6926 on: February 27, 2021, 05:43:52 PM »

Probably he was buying time, as it wasnít complete. Only several days later, Taylor announced the abandonment of Smile to the press.
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« Reply #6927 on: February 27, 2021, 10:44:09 PM »

Probably he was buying time, as it wasnít complete. Only several days later, Taylor announced the abandonment of Smile to the press.


Yes it appears that Derek is flubbing... but at the same time, depending how privy he was to the Boys sessions ... he could have very well believed it was nearing the end. He could be lying to buy some time... but I see it as equally possible that either he heard enough, session wise; or he had been told by Brian himself that he was close.

You have to remember that saying it was close to completion would help Derek, too.
Going on, regardless of Derekís input.
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« Reply #6928 on: April 20, 2021, 08:44:41 PM »

Who played the acoustic guitar on Bluebirds?

EDIT: And what about the orchestra?
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« Reply #6929 on: April 21, 2021, 05:21:47 AM »

Who played the acoustic guitar on Bluebirds?

EDIT: And what about the orchestra?

It appears Carl and Al overdubbed the acoustic guitars on BLUEBIRDS, possibly while in New York City. During the NYC sessions, Van McCoy (later of disco masterpiece THE HUSTLE fame) was hired to add the strings and horns.
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« Reply #6930 on: April 21, 2021, 05:29:53 AM »

Who played the acoustic guitar on Bluebirds?

EDIT: And what about the orchestra?

It appears Carl and Al overdubbed the acoustic guitars on BLUEBIRDS, possibly while in New York City. During the NYC sessions, Van McCoy (later of disco masterpiece THE HUSTLE fame) was hired to add the strings and horns.

Really? Thatís another track for the Al list, I didnít have any clue! I kinda figured that Carl was one of the guitarists, seeing as he & Bruce were producers.
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« Reply #6931 on: April 21, 2021, 05:54:43 AM »

Who played the acoustic guitar on Bluebirds?

EDIT: And what about the orchestra?

It appears Carl and Al overdubbed the acoustic guitars on BLUEBIRDS, possibly while in New York City. During the NYC sessions, Van McCoy (later of disco masterpiece THE HUSTLE fame) was hired to add the strings and horns.

That info comes from Bruce, on two different occasions.

Really? Thatís another track for the Al list, I didnít have any clue! I kinda figured that Carl was one of the guitarists, seeing as he & Bruce were producers.
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« Reply #6932 on: April 21, 2021, 10:48:23 AM »

One of my guilty pleasures... who played on Walkiní? Tongue
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« Reply #6933 on: April 21, 2021, 11:50:13 AM »

In addition to Walkiní who played on Weíre Together Again (both versions)?
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« Reply #6934 on: April 21, 2021, 12:01:47 PM »

Which Smile songs were played live by the Beach Boys in any configuration?
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« Reply #6935 on: April 21, 2021, 12:05:54 PM »

Which Smile songs were played live by the Beach Boys in any configuration?

Off the top of my head...

Heroes & Villains
Wonderful
Surfís Up
Vega-Tables
Wind Chimes
Good Vibrations

Other than that Iíd actually be curious to know if there was more.
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« Reply #6936 on: April 22, 2021, 07:29:52 AM »

Do we know who played bass & the organ on Do It Again?
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« Reply #6937 on: April 22, 2021, 08:08:14 AM »

Do we know who played bass & the organ on Do It Again?

That depends on your definition of the word "know"....
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« Reply #6938 on: April 22, 2021, 08:11:05 AM »

It's most likely Brian and Brian, although no way to be absolutely certain, as the tracking session and first generation tape don't survive.
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« Reply #6939 on: April 22, 2021, 08:12:55 AM »

Do we know who played bass & the organ on Do It Again?

That depends on your definition of the word "know"....

Actually aside from the guitars (Carl and Al) and the drums (John Guerin & Dennis, with the former also on tambourine and woodblock), I have no idea who couldíve played the other instruments. The bass sounds a bit easy (thereís a tab on Ultimate Guitarís website) and the organ is simplistic too.
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« Reply #6940 on: April 22, 2021, 08:14:15 AM »

It's most likely Brian and Brian, although no way to be absolutely certain, as the tracking session and first generation tape don't survive.

Really? I guess probably.
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« Reply #6941 on: April 22, 2021, 08:18:20 AM »

The piano and organ both play during Brian's count-in, so they're likely overdubs (tracksheet lends to that too), and the dynamic of the track suggests the bass, drums, and at least one rhythm guitar were live. The bass is in Brian's style, quite messy. Difficult to say it both Carl and Al played guitar or if Carl handled both.

Carl played the tambourine, shaken a the same time as Guerin's drum performance.
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« Reply #6942 on: April 22, 2021, 08:29:09 AM »

Iíve always wondered about All I Want To Do. The only thing Iíve seen about the song is that the drums are Mike Kowalski (and even that was Wikipedia). Then there was the fuzz bass, the lead guitar, the piano and the horns. No idea. Is there any information? Judging by the lack of results I assume not. It sounds like mostly session musicians and not the boys, itís a really tight arrangement.
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« Reply #6943 on: April 22, 2021, 08:33:03 AM »

Iíve always wondered about All I Want To Do. The only thing Iíve seen about the song is that the drums are Mike Kowalski (and even that was Wikipedia). Then there was the fuzz bass, the lead guitar, the piano and the horns. No idea. Is there any information? Judging by the lack of results I assume not. It sounds like mostly session musicians and not the boys, itís a really tight arrangement.

Remember that less documentation usually means no session musicians.
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« Reply #6944 on: April 22, 2021, 08:35:53 AM »

Iíve always wondered about All I Want To Do. The only thing Iíve seen about the song is that the drums are Mike Kowalski (and even that was Wikipedia). Then there was the fuzz bass, the lead guitar, the piano and the horns. No idea. Is there any information? Judging by the lack of results I assume not. It sounds like mostly session musicians and not the boys, itís a really tight arrangement.

Remember that less documentation usually means no session musicians.

Thatís a good point. That fuzz bass rocks though. Maybe Mike, Daryl & Ed were utilized.
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« Reply #6945 on: April 22, 2021, 01:39:28 PM »

Who plays the bass on Arenít You Glad? From my understanding it was Carl because of how the bass sounded, but for whatever reason on Wikipedia it was switched to Brian, which just doesnít sound right. Was it Carl? As soon as I saw that happen on Wikipedia I began questioning anyone and everyone that could have possibly made that change.
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« Reply #6946 on: April 22, 2021, 02:46:39 PM »

Who plays the bass on Arenít You Glad? From my understanding it was Carl because of how the bass sounded, but for whatever reason on Wikipedia it was switched to Brian, which just doesnít sound right. Was it Carl? As soon as I saw that happen on Wikipedia I began questioning anyone and everyone that could have possibly made that change.

My guess would be it's Brian. I think there was a feeling until a few years ago that Brian didn't do much in those sessions, but around the time of Sunshine Tomorrow that seemed to change a bit, with recognition of Brian's more extensive involvement. I don't remember any specific piece of info coming out to change that particular reference though. C-man might jump in at this point. . .
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« Reply #6947 on: April 22, 2021, 04:33:35 PM »

Probably not Brian on bass because piano and bass were put down simultaneously.
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« Reply #6948 on: April 22, 2021, 04:41:30 PM »

Thus putting Carl on bass (unless if thereís a guitar on the basic)?
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« Reply #6949 on: April 22, 2021, 05:06:57 PM »

Well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNfG5hLgjg8 is what we have and the only voices I hear are Brian and Carl's.  So draw what conclusions you will.
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