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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2021, 08:45:16 PM »

Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Shame to hear. I quite enjoy the album, and it's a gaping hole in my CD collection. At least I have it on vinyl.
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2021, 09:22:51 PM »

Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.
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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2021, 10:44:03 PM »

Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.


I know there's a moment in the 1989 BBs campfire sessions where Mike seems to want to bury the LBWL album when Brian brings it up. It's pretty shocking to hear the album as obscure as that brought up by Brian almost a decade later.

Mike seems genuinely embarrassed, although he plays it off in a joking manner. Granted that was 32 years ago, but that's some decent evidence that he's certainly not proud of that work, and I don't think it ever got well reviewed or had many fans. 

How Mike could years later give the greenlight to any number of other more recent atrocities that he has released under his own name baffles the mind, because it would seem that at one point he at least expressed the ability to be embarrassed by his own work when it was substandard.
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2021, 05:18:53 PM »

Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.


I know there's a moment in the 1989 BBs campfire sessions where Mike seems to want to bury the LBWL album when Brian brings it up. It's pretty shocking to hear the album as obscure as that brought up by Brian almost a decade later.

Mike seems genuinely embarrassed, although he plays it off in a joking manner. Granted that was 32 years ago, but that's some decent evidence that he's certainly not proud of that work, and I don't think it ever got well reviewed or had many fans. 

How Mike could years later give the greenlight to any number of other more recent atrocities that he has released under his own name baffles the mind, because it would seem that at one point he at least expressed the ability to be embarrassed by his own work when it was substandard.

I was going to mention that same moment - Mike was clearly embarrassed by the mention of it.

I suspect - and have read, although I'm very much paraphrasing - that in the wake of Dennis' solo effort Mike was quite jealous of all the positive attention Dennis got. No surprise there. Suddenly within about a year of Pacific Ocean Blue - Mike has 2 albums worth of unreleasable solo material ready to go - and no-one would distribute it!!

I seem to remember also that there was a bit of an issue that arose when Mike was away doing the Maharishi's TM Sidhis course and the CBS contact was signed - precluding the release of solo albums. I think Mike may have been furious. This is just from memory, but I'm sure it's in Steven Gaines' book.

Point being, I think Mike was desperate to go solo -at that time- and then when his album didn't sell I think he realised solo albums were never going to be his strong suit! There's also the quote from, I think, the press conference after Dennis' death. Something like "We are not disbanding. We have tried specialisation, it doesn't work as well as the togetherness of the group". That one appears in the An American Band doco towards the end.

Interestingly, post Mike's album and pre Dennis' death, in the middle there is the Mike and Dean era and also the 1982 recordings with Adrian Baker.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2021, 05:51:31 PM »

Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.


I know there's a moment in the 1989 BBs campfire sessions where Mike seems to want to bury the LBWL album when Brian brings it up. It's pretty shocking to hear the album as obscure as that brought up by Brian almost a decade later.

Mike seems genuinely embarrassed, although he plays it off in a joking manner. Granted that was 32 years ago, but that's some decent evidence that he's certainly not proud of that work, and I don't think it ever got well reviewed or had many fans. 

How Mike could years later give the greenlight to any number of other more recent atrocities that he has released under his own name baffles the mind, because it would seem that at one point he at least expressed the ability to be embarrassed by his own work when it was substandard.

I was going to mention that same moment - Mike was clearly embarrassed by the mention of it.

I suspect - and have read, although I'm very much paraphrasing - that in the wake of Dennis' solo effort Mike was quite jealous of all the positive attention Dennis got. No surprise there. Suddenly within about a year of Pacific Ocean Blue - Mike has 2 albums worth of unreleasable solo material ready to go - and no-one would distribute it!!

I seem to remember also that there was a bit of an issue that arose when Mike was away doing the Maharishi's TM Sidhis course and the CBS contact was signed - precluding the release of solo albums. I think Mike may have been furious. This is just from memory, but I'm sure it's in Steven Gaines' book.

Point being, I think Mike was desperate to go solo -at that time- and then when his album didn't sell I think he realised solo albums were never going to be his strong suit! There's also the quote from, I think, the press conference after Dennis' death. Something like "We are not disbanding. We have tried specialisation, it doesn't work as well as the togetherness of the group". That one appears in the An American Band doco towards the end.

Interestingly, post Mike's album and pre Dennis' death, in the middle there is the Mike and Dean era and also the 1982 recordings with Adrian Baker.


You're absolutely right, I had totally forgotten about those unreleased solo albums that were presumably deemed unreleasable by labels that came *right in the wake of POB*. No way that timing is a coincidence.

It's remarkable because it really shows an instance of Mike nearly identically doing what he would do many years later when Brian solo shows got much better reviews than Mike... Mike would then decide to "up his game" and try to get competitive, lest he be outshined by the Wilson's to a degree that was too large for his ego to handle.

Interesting to think that as mediocre, which is to be generous, as the LBWL album is, it was something like the third and only successful attempt by Mike to get an album released.

The fact that he had recently tried a country album - and so quickly abandoned that genre - really makes it seem like he was having an identity crisis much like the character Buck Swope, played by Don Cheadle, did in the film Boogie Nights. And much like Buck eventually got absorbed back into the adult business which was his bread and butter, so did Mike soon do the same with being absorbed back into the band when nothing else worked.
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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2021, 09:00:17 PM »

I think I better clarify something. It was Carl who makes the togetherness comment I wrote about above.

Don't want to be thought to suggest it was Mike speaking.
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2021, 10:02:53 PM »

I recall Mike saying "I'm not against it" in response to this question in an interview or fan chat a few years back.
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