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« Reply #3575 on: June 25, 2021, 01:23:33 AM »

Here's the youtube-link:


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« Reply #3576 on: June 25, 2021, 04:11:52 PM »

Listening to Susie... er... is this a pattern? ie. The preview tracks coming from the least talented songwriters of the group (and definitely the least associated with the creative bonanza that the Sunflower/Surf's Up era represent)... what's next... a Bruce song?

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« Reply #3577 on: June 25, 2021, 05:19:25 PM »

That’s a pretty odd choice to promote the set ... a 15 Big Ones-era live track w the horns, etc? Not ‘69-‘71 era, and not really one of their better live performances or periods for live shows either IMO.
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« Reply #3578 on: June 25, 2021, 07:09:49 PM »

That’s a pretty odd choice to promote the set ... a 15 Big Ones-era live track w the horns, etc? Not ‘69-‘71 era, and not really one of their better live performances or periods for live shows either IMO.


A very odd choice indeed. As a hard-core fan I can certainly appreciate it, but it's just a strange choice on every level, I don't think this choice of a teaser single will get one additional person to purchase the box. I'm not dissing it though, it's a good performance and I've always liked this song, although I'm sure it's not one of the best tracks on the entire box, and perhaps they're just really trying to keep the best stuff under wraps for now.

My guess would be the powers that be were really trying to be diplomatic about giving a spotlight to each of the band members and their own songs. That may well have been some contractual thing. Or maybe it's just some sort of a directive from marketing to showcase each member and this song was chosen because somebody working on this it happens to like it. But my guess is that Al gave it a thumbs up and then he probably still has an affection for his own song.
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« Reply #3579 on: June 25, 2021, 07:38:16 PM »

That’s a pretty odd choice to promote the set ... a 15 Big Ones-era live track w the horns, etc? Not ‘69-‘71 era, and not really one of their better live performances or periods for live shows either IMO.


A very odd choice indeed. As a hard-core fan I can certainly appreciate it, but it's just a strange choice on every level, I don't think this choice of a teaser single will get one additional person to purchase the box. I'm not dissing it though, it's a good performance and I've always liked this song, although I'm sure it's not one of the best tracks on the entire box, and perhaps they're just really trying to keep the best stuff under wraps for now.

My guess would be the powers that be were really trying to be diplomatic about giving a spotlight to each of the band members and their own songs. That may well have been some contractual thing. Or maybe it's just some sort of a directive from marketing to showcase each member and this song was chosen because somebody working on this it happens to like it. But my guess is that Al gave it a thumbs up and then he probably still has an affection for his own song.

I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea of the ‘69-‘71 set including live performances of songs from the era but performed in other eras. I don’t get that ... I’d rather hear, say- “Country Air” as it was performed in 1970 ... just seems to me that the continuity and vision for the set would be better served with that than a 1989 performance of “This Whole World” ending the original Sunflower LP. One man’s opinion. Possibly a cost-saving measure to include dupes of the same songs, in terms publishing $$$.
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« Reply #3580 on: June 25, 2021, 09:14:36 PM »

I don't understand that choice of songs to release either. It's a recording from 5 years after the era being presented on the box. If this is a teaser to generate interest, why not generate interest with a track from the era being covered on the set?

I'll speak freely on this one...it reminds me of the label's decision to release "Runaway Dancer" as a single from Brian's "No Pier Pressure" and have it performed on Conan's TV show to generate interest in the album and tour. It wasn't in the top-5 songs on that album, objectively and in my opinion, yet the label said let's push this as a single. Never agreed with that decision considering what else surrounded that song in terms of quality and representing Brian Wilson's music.

It would be like putting a track from a Mike & Bruce concert in the 2000's on the Made In California set and using it as a teaser. It doesn't make sense, but I hope whatever interest is generated is positive for the set itself. 
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« Reply #3581 on: June 25, 2021, 11:12:06 PM »

So... my 2cd order from amazon UK has been pushed back to September 2nd

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« Reply #3582 on: June 25, 2021, 11:38:39 PM »

Amazon U.K. also lowered the presale price to £74.91 (all pre orders will go out at the lowest price it hits before release)
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« Reply #3583 on: June 26, 2021, 05:52:10 AM »

So... my 2cd order from amazon UK has been pushed back to September 2nd

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Yep my Amazon US order of the 5CD set was pushed to 8/27
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« Reply #3584 on: June 26, 2021, 06:55:24 AM »

So... my 2cd order from amazon UK has been pushed back to September 2nd

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Yep my Amazon US order of the 5CD set was pushed to 8/27

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Could this mean that worldwide release has been postponed to late August? I'd be disappointed.
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« Reply #3585 on: June 26, 2021, 06:56:08 AM »

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« Reply #3586 on: June 26, 2021, 07:30:19 AM »

This release isn't just celebrating the Sunflower/Surf's Up era, it's also celebrating the songs created and recorded during this time.  I'm fine with the idea of including live versions of these songs as performed through the years - most were not performed live in 69-71 anyway.

I suspect the live 69-71 concerts will come in a copyright dump online at the end of the year.
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« Reply #3587 on: June 26, 2021, 08:08:30 AM »

So... my 2cd order from amazon UK has been pushed back to September 2nd

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Yep my Amazon US order of the 5CD set was pushed to 8/27

 Huh

Could this mean that worldwide release has been postponed to late August? I'd be disappointed.

The physical one for sure. But curiously, both Amazon and Apple Music still list the date as July 30th. Hopefully it's just the physical that's delayed and we don't have to wait another month to hear it at all.
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« Reply #3588 on: June 26, 2021, 08:25:56 AM »

So... my 2cd order from amazon UK has been pushed back to September 2nd

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Yep my Amazon US order of the 5CD set was pushed to 8/27

 Huh

Could this mean that worldwide release has been postponed to late August? I'd be disappointed.

The physical one for sure. But curiously, both Amazon and Apple Music still list the date as July 30th. Hopefully it's just the physical that's delayed and we don't have to wait another month to hear it at all.

Ah thank you. I'm not acquainted with the way Amazon and Apple Music do these things. I'll patiently wait for the 5CD-set; it's always a delight to order it at my local retailer's, and hand Paul (the owner's name) the money myself when it will have arrived. It is a good, modern, not-too-big record shop; it's aways been a family business, and have bought my vinyl and CDs there for 40 years now. Incredible, when I think about this. This kind of pleasant ritual is so satisfying.
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« Reply #3589 on: June 26, 2021, 09:18:22 AM »

This release isn't just celebrating the Sunflower/Surf's Up era, it's also celebrating the songs created and recorded during this time.  I'm fine with the idea of including live versions of these songs as performed through the years - most were not performed live in 69-71 anyway.

I suspect the live 69-71 concerts will come in a copyright dump online at the end of the year.

I don't think anyone who posted about "Susie" has an issue with including these live versions from other eras on the actual set, in fact I think everyone welcomes them on the set. It was the issue of using a live track from 1976 as an advance promo or teaser kind of thing for the 69-71 set. I don't think it represents what the overall vibe of the set is about, but again that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #3590 on: June 26, 2021, 12:16:45 PM »

The official Beach Boys FB page is now saying Aug. 27 for the release date.
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« Reply #3591 on: June 26, 2021, 12:30:22 PM »

It's August 27th, folks.

Nothing untoward, weird, or sinister -- just a scheduling thing, as is commonplace.
I promise, a ton of cool stuff coming up.

Get pumped.
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« Reply #3592 on: June 26, 2021, 01:05:20 PM »

It's August 27th, folks.

Nothing untoward, weird, or sinister -- just a scheduling thing, as is commonplace.
I promise, a ton of cool stuff coming up.

Get pumped.

To be entirely clear, since they still all say July 30th, this does include the digital releases, doesn't it?
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« Reply #3593 on: June 26, 2021, 02:32:50 PM »

It's August 27th, folks.

Nothing untoward, weird, or sinister -- just a scheduling thing, as is commonplace.
I promise, a ton of cool stuff coming up.

Get pumped.

Cool, and if anything, the new date makes it closer to the original Aug 31, 1970 release date of Sunflower. Thanks for the update, Howie.
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« Reply #3594 on: June 26, 2021, 02:57:46 PM »

That’s a pretty odd choice to promote the set ... a 15 Big Ones-era live track w the horns, etc? Not ‘69-‘71 era, and not really one of their better live performances or periods for live shows either IMO.

I kinda like the idea of having the live tracks over the years included. Honestly I was kinda hoping Dylan's More Blood, More Tracks set was gonna use live tracks on that one to demonstrate how the songs have changed over the years on stage.

I will say though, the inclusion of a live 1976 version of "Back Home" is odd. I get that "Back Home" was recorded during the Sunflower sessions, hence it's inclusion. However, while the 1963 version and the 15 Big Ones version are very similar, the Sunflower era version is quite different, perhaps due to the creative mind of one Alan Jardine. Now granted, this Sunflower era version does have the wailing "back home, I spent my summer" part, and that definitely does tie it closer to the 1976 live version. But still, altogether a peculiar choice, and one that would of course fit better on a 15 Big Ones set. Either way though, it's cool, and I'm glad to be getting the track on the new set.
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« Reply #3595 on: June 26, 2021, 05:51:52 PM »

It's August 27th, folks.

Nothing untoward, weird, or sinister -- just a scheduling thing, as is commonplace.
I promise, a ton of cool stuff coming up.

Get pumped.

Glad it's not something untoward, weird or sinister. I hate those things. With Iconic in charge now, surely we've seen the end of that type of crap.

Disappointing though about the sliding date. I'll be okay with it though if it's happened in order to facilitate a concurrent blu-ray audio release, or a live video or something else super-cool like that. If it's just like they don't want this coming out too close to a John Lennon, or George Harrison release or whatever - not happy!
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« Reply #3596 on: June 26, 2021, 07:06:13 PM »

It's August 27th, folks.

Nothing untoward, weird, or sinister -- just a scheduling thing, as is commonplace.
I promise, a ton of cool stuff coming up.

Get pumped.

Glad it's not something untoward, weird or sinister. I hate those things. With Iconic in charge now, surely we've seen the end of that type of crap.

Disappointing though about the sliding date. I'll be okay with it though if it's happened in order to facilitate a concurrent blu-ray audio release, or a live video or something else super-cool like that. If it's just like they don't want this coming out too close to a John Lennon, or George Harrison release or whatever - not happy!

My guess is it's either being moved to accommodate extra vinyl pressings from better than expected pre-sales... or that the powers that be think a late summer release is the best way to get the best of both worlds when it comes to some fans buying a "summer" (late summer, but still a summer month) BBs product, while also having its existence still be in recent memory for other potential purchasers when it comes time for a holiday gift near the end of the year.
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« Reply #3597 on: June 26, 2021, 07:34:30 PM »

Hoping it’s all linked to pre-sales demand. FWIW, I’ve been searching regularly on sites closer to my country than going the US Amazon route, with several listing the set but none yet to have a date or price. Perhaps the algorithms pick this up and the powers that be have decided to increase the run so the suppliers worldwide have stock.
I’ve no knowledge of the business of these releases, but just tossing it in the mix.
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« Reply #3598 on: June 27, 2021, 12:11:22 AM »

It's August 27th, folks.

Nothing untoward, weird, or sinister -- just a scheduling thing, as is commonplace.
I promise, a ton of cool stuff coming up.

Get pumped.

Thank you Howie -

but are you sure that the delay isn't a consequence of Mike Love having rewritten the booklet notes, in secret and in the last minutes? This kind of thing does happen sometimes, I was told.

It also explains the gap between online and physical release dates.
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« Reply #3599 on: June 27, 2021, 05:13:22 AM »

That’s a pretty odd choice to promote the set ... a 15 Big Ones-era live track w the horns, etc? Not ‘69-‘71 era, and not really one of their better live performances or periods for live shows either IMO.

I kinda like the idea of having the live tracks over the years included. Honestly I was kinda hoping Dylan's More Blood, More Tracks set was gonna use live tracks on that one to demonstrate how the songs have changed over the years on stage.

I will say though, the inclusion of a live 1976 version of "Back Home" is odd. I get that "Back Home" was recorded during the Sunflower sessions, hence it's inclusion. However, while the 1963 version and the 15 Big Ones version are very similar, the Sunflower era version is quite different, perhaps due to the creative mind of one Alan Jardine. Now granted, this Sunflower era version does have the wailing "back home, I spent my summer" part, and that definitely does tie it closer to the 1976 live version. But still, altogether a peculiar choice, and one that would of course fit better on a 15 Big Ones set. Either way though, it's cool, and I'm glad to be getting the track on the new set.

Quite by accident I found this post from C-man a few years back.


Speaking of lyrical differences, has anyone here heard the live version from '76 as sung by Al (at the shows for which Brian was not present)?  It's hilarious in that Al changed part of it to reflect a summer in the inner city, stealing hubcaps and such.  Been a few years since I heard it last, so I can't quote him verbatim without going downstairs and digging out the old cassettes, but it's really funny.

Perhaps the inclusion of the '76 track is due to it containing a lead by Alan, with changed lyrics. Did Al deliver something which was closer to the '70 version? This would explain it's inclusion.
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