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« Reply #400 on: May 27, 2016, 07:00:04 PM »

Ha ha ha ha...I don't see a problem with it myself
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« Reply #401 on: May 27, 2016, 07:01:51 PM »

Ha ha ha ha...I don't see a problem with it myself

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« Reply #402 on: May 27, 2016, 07:13:51 PM »

Can I become "Douchepool?"
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« Reply #403 on: May 27, 2016, 07:32:45 PM »

Aren't you already?
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« Reply #404 on: May 27, 2016, 07:34:05 PM »

I always was!
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« Reply #405 on: May 27, 2016, 07:49:16 PM »

Aren't you already?

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« Reply #406 on: May 27, 2016, 08:01:59 PM »

Ah ha! At first, I was genuinely upset that RDZ was allegedly banned because of the "asshole" post, and then I read further in this thread and learned he had flagrantly violated other rules, which led to his real banning. And it makes sense now (I'm glad I didn't immediately flame somebody for some out of context post three pages before the most recent post).

So- context does help work through some of this labyrinthine sh*t. Then again, so does being fair minded, rationale and calm.

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« Reply #407 on: May 28, 2016, 12:34:28 AM »

Ah ha! At first, I was genuinely upset that RDZ was allegedly banned because of the "asshole" post, and then I read further in this thread and learned he had flagrantly violated other rules, which led to his real banning. And it makes sense now (I'm glad I didn't immediately flame somebody for some out of context post three pages before the most recent post).

So- context does help work through some of this labyrinthine sh*t. Then again, so does being fair minded, rationale and calm.

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« Reply #408 on: May 28, 2016, 02:32:10 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.


Who showed you the emails? Just curious.
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« Reply #409 on: May 28, 2016, 02:35:09 AM »

Why not just have a poll/referendum so that the board can vote whether he remains a mod or not?  Remain or crexit...

The day members can vote moderators in or out is the day I make this board disappear like it never existed.

The icing on the cake.
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« Reply #410 on: May 28, 2016, 04:01:38 AM »

Why not just have a poll/referendum so that the board can vote whether he remains a mod or not?  Remain or crexit...

The day members can vote moderators in or out is the day I make this board disappear like it never existed.

The icing on the cake.


Keep in mind:

When I agreed to do this, there was no condition of a vote except among the other mods and admins to approve or not. I do not think it is fair nor justified to call for a vote on my status in general unless similar votes can be called for to determine the status of any other member on this board.

When you consider there are at least three cases in this thread alone of either long-term current or previously banned members logging in and posting under completely different accounts from their primary (and most well known) accounts and names, it isn't hard to see how taking a vote on anyone's fate on this board has the potential to be rigged in many ways. Voting in "best album" polls is one thing, but when members are signing in and posting under multiple accounts (not just changing usernames), it isn't possible to judge anything fairly by popular vote except the informal polls, and I will not be subject to it, no matter what the results may be.

This is another case where the behavior of certain members who should know better or at least have more respect for the community have affected the way things are done or could be done. I will strongly reject a vote of any kind not even involving me, considering all of the abuses of the most simple foundations of signing up and posting to this board.


When people post using multiple accounts, as proven has happened multiple times in this thread and who knows how many others, the notion of a fair and accurate vote for any issue beyond informal polls is wiped off the table.
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« Reply #411 on: May 28, 2016, 04:30:26 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.


Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.
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« Reply #412 on: May 28, 2016, 07:27:03 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.


Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.

Wouldn't all of you be guilty of the same thing AGD is accused of: sharing the so-called "potential libel" of an un-named source by PM?
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« Reply #413 on: May 28, 2016, 07:59:23 AM »

If AGD knew it was false and willingly disseminated it them it's cut and dried. Providing proof of said dissemination is not in the same class.
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« Reply #414 on: May 28, 2016, 08:15:29 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.


Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.

Wouldn't all of you be guilty of the same thing AGD is accused of: sharing the so-called "potential libel" of an un-named source by PM?

All of us? Firstly I never got any directly libelous PMs and stated as much - or at least I clarified as much. Secondly, the people who shared them with me didn't pawn off the information enclosed in the PMs as being factual. They were shared because they knew it was bullshit information...and those people said as much. By your logic no one in a court of law could being forth evidence of libel without being prosecuted themselves.
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« Reply #415 on: May 28, 2016, 09:21:53 AM »

Just curious to know why they'd share it with you...

Who are the other banned posters using an alter ego on this thread? Come on, fess up! All of you!  police
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« Reply #416 on: May 28, 2016, 09:25:48 AM »

Just curious to know why they'd share it with you...

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« Reply #417 on: May 28, 2016, 10:14:13 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.


Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.

Wouldn't all of you be guilty of the same thing AGD is accused of: sharing the so-called "potential libel" of an un-named source by PM?

No, because it was me who asked for it, as part of the investigation.
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« Reply #418 on: May 28, 2016, 10:20:38 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.


Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.

Wouldn't all of you be guilty of the same thing AGD is accused of: sharing the so-called "potential libel" of an un-named source by PM?

All of us? Firstly I never got any directly libelous PMs and stated as much - or at least I clarified as much. Secondly, the people who shared them with me didn't pawn off the information enclosed in the PMs as being factual. They were shared because they knew it was bullshit information...and those people said as much. By your logic no one in a court of law could being forth evidence of libel without being prosecuted themselves.

"Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can."

I'm not following you I guess, what PMs did you receive if not those under discussion? If you didn't share an of the secondhand (AGD attributed them as from a source, not him) allegedly potentially libelous posts which I thought you were referring to or only shared them with a mod then no it wouldn't apply to you. But those members who shared them with you it would, they shared info from an un-known source by PM just as AGD allegedly did. However, between your two posts, I am confused about what you are saying you received and shared from/with fellow board members; together they read to me as if you shared and received the PMs you didn't share or receive.
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« Reply #419 on: May 28, 2016, 10:24:03 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.



Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.

Wouldn't all of you be guilty of the same thing AGD is accused of: sharing the so-called "potential libel" of an un-named source by PM?

No, because it was me who asked for it, as part of the investigation.

Rab was receiving PMs from board members for you?
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« Reply #420 on: May 28, 2016, 10:33:37 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.



Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.

Wouldn't all of you be guilty of the same thing AGD is accused of: sharing the so-called "potential libel" of an un-named source by PM?

No, because it was me who asked for it, as part of the investigation.

Rab was receiving PMs from board members for you?

I asked him if he received any of the PMs from Andrew Doe in regards to Melinda, because of another PM I received from a different person. And no, I'm not going into any more detail because I don't want to violate anybody else's confidentiality, so you're really going to have to let this one go, especially considering we've already been through this multiple times.
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« Reply #421 on: May 28, 2016, 10:41:01 AM »

I asked him if he received any of the PMs from Andrew Doe in regards to Melinda, because of another PM I received from a different person. And no, I'm not going into any more detail because I don't want to violate anybody else's confidentiality, so you're really going to have to let this one go, especially considering we've already been through this multiple times.

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« Reply #422 on: May 28, 2016, 11:29:58 AM »


I saw some of the PMs that got Andrew G Doe banned (some of the more outlandish Melinda rumors included). I'm not sure that people like Lee Dempsey would have left had the evidence come to light. I'm not sure that Bgas would've left. I'm not sure there would have been uproar and an increase in calls for questioning the moderation here had the evidence come out. Maybe I'm 100% wrong - maybe they would've left anyways. But I truly think that the evidence would've cleared up a lot of speculation amongst many members here.


Who showed you the emails? Just curious.

Fellow board members who had received some of the PMs...members who shared them with me after I had made it known to them that I had recieved a PM from Doe regarding Melinda's story in Love and Mercy. Other board members showed me PMs during and after Billy's investigation of the matter. Specifically who I wont share for privacy sake. But if they want to come forward they can.

Wouldn't all of you be guilty of the same thing AGD is accused of: sharing the so-called "potential libel" of an un-named source by PM?
Hi Cam, we've covered this in another thread. If the person disseminating the information is not claiming that it's true, it's not libel. But if they did claim it's true, it can be.
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« Reply #423 on: May 28, 2016, 12:35:45 PM »

Now I'm going to get serious on the mods:
Why do I only get sporadic notifications in my email for PMs? Huh? What's that about? I think you're biased.
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« Reply #424 on: May 28, 2016, 03:30:57 PM »

Now I'm going to get serious on the mods:
Why do I only get sporadic notifications in my email for PMs? Huh? What's that about? I think you're biased.

LOL

Seriously,  though, that's a bug...just like i don't get reported posts
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