Scott Bennett discussion thread

[Paul J B]

What legitimate reason was there to change the title of this thread? I feel a rant concerning censorship coming on that may end up in myself getting banned from this forum. This mind you is coming from someone that usually stays away from stirring the ----

[Emily]

What legitimate reason was there to change the title of this thread? I feel a rant concerning censorship coming on that may end up in myself getting banned from this forum. This mind you is coming from someone that usually stays away from stirring the ----

Don't rant and get banned! I think it was just due to two separate threads being combined. I think it was apolitical.

[Paul J B]

What legitimate reason was there to change the title of this thread? I feel a rant concerning censorship coming on that may end up in myself getting banned from this forum. This mind you is coming from someone that usually stays away from stirring the ----

Don't rant and get banned! I think it was just due to two separate threads being combined. I think it was apolitical.

Really? You think or know? i don't see where that was stated. I was done commenting on this subject itself but I'm seeing a bigger picture that seems amiss.

[Emily]

What legitimate reason was there to change the title of this thread? I feel a rant concerning censorship coming on that may end up in myself getting banned from this forum. This mind you is coming from someone that usually stays away from stirring the ----

Don't rant and get banned! I think it was just due to two separate threads being combined. I think it was apolitical.

Really? You think or know? i don't see where that was stated. I was done commenting on this subject itself but I'm seeing a bigger picture that seems amiss.

I know two threads were merged. Halfway through the original thread someone posted a new thread with a link to an article and the mods merged the two threads. I assumed, but don't know, that that's why the name changed. I've noticed that if you respond to comments from the original thread the comment contains that title. I was really confused for a while seeing posts listed with different thread titles but when I clicked on the posts they all brought me to the same thread. I'll look and see if I can find the original post of the second thread.

Actually, this is the new thread that was merged that I was thinking of. It was later that some posts were titled with the third title. Don't know how:

http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/crime/keyboardist-brian-wilson-raped-woman-oklahoma-concert-article-1.2628569

How gross and irresponsible, he should be ashamed of himself.

EDIT: I missed the existing thread.  Feel free to merge.

So originally it was "horribly disappointing..." then "sad and disappointing..." then "discussion".
I'm always baffled by titles. Some just become "/" or something. I don't really understand how it works.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

[Emily]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

gotcha.

[Paul J B]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

Fair enough. A few days ago when a couple of members here that are connected to music media expressed concerns that this remain in "on topic" I was totally in their camp.  I give you credit for moving several foolish threads off of that page in response.

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Myself...I have little negative to say about Brian, but I sincerely hope an open forum will remain an open forum even if an unpleasant black eye comes from Brian's camp. Had someone in Mikes band, messed up, I'm pretty darn sure we would be up to 60 pages by the usual suspects on how once again Mike tarnished the brand. And I'm sure it would not be in the sandbox.

For the record I agree with and respect MANY of Guitarfools posts. Same way I felt about Andrew.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Had someone in Mikes band, messed up, I'm pretty darn sure we would be up to 60 pages by the usual suspects on how once again Mike tarnished the brand. And I'm sure it would not be in the sandbox.

You're probably right on the former, but as far as the latter...it would've been moved here too.

[Juice Brohnston]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Is this accurate?

[Marty Castillo]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Is this accurate?

The Stamos DUI thread comes to mind...

[alf wiedersehen]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Is this accurate?

http://brianwilson.websitetoolbox.com/profile/3984181

[Mr. Verlander]

Then Billy needs to become moderator at "Mike Love's Feel The Love" board, and that'll bring balance to the board.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I'd rather mainline bleach. Barely have enough free time as it is.

[Mr. Verlander]

I'd rather mainline bleach. Barely have enough free time as it is.

Talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Not sure how it's a conflict of interest.

I actually missed the Al post...where is it?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I'd rather mainline bleach. Barely have enough free time as it is.

Talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone!

I know, right? Then I'd have all the free time in the world...eternal, in fact.

Sadly, it'd still be preferable to how this year is turning out.

[drbeachboy]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Is this accurate?

http://brianwilson.websitetoolbox.com/profile/3984181

That is why last night, I stated that he might be confused with which board that he was moderating. Brian is always off-limits to any criticism, while all other Beach Boys are fair game, especially Mike.

[Mr. Verlander]

I'd rather mainline bleach. Barely have enough free time as it is.

Talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone!

I know, right? Then I'd have all the free time in the world...eternal, in fact.

Sadly, it'd still be preferable to how this year is turning out.

To quote The Beach Boys, "The Year Is So Young"...er, or something like that  
 It'll turn around for you.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Is this accurate?

http://brianwilson.websitetoolbox.com/profile/3984181

That is why last night, I stated that he might be confused with which board that he was moderating. Brian is always off-limits to any criticism, while all other Beach Boys are fair game, especially Mike.

Bullshit. NOBODY is immune to any criticism. I call it like I see it, always have and always will.  If it was off limits to criticize Brian, don't you think the Bubs/Dudd thread would've been shut down? I mean, there's a difference between being supportive of someone and banning people just because they don't agree with someone. The second has never happened on this board, and won't as long I still draw breath.

[drbeachboy]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Is this accurate?

http://brianwilson.websitetoolbox.com/profile/3984181

That is why last night, I stated that he might be confused with which board that he was moderating. Brian is always off-limits to any criticism, while all other Beach Boys are fair game, especially Mike.

Bullshit. NOBODY is immune to any criticism. I call it like I see it, always have and always will.  If it was off limits to criticize Brian, don't you think the Bubs/Dudd thread would've been shut down? I mean, there's a difference between being supportive of someone and banning people just because they don't agree with someone. The second has never happened on this board, and won't as long I still draw breath.

Well then Billy, please read what went down last night. Craig has never to my knowledge treated the anti-Mike threads like he does with what he perceives to be anti-Brian threads. You are fair with that stuff, and I wouldn't get on Craig if he treated all the threads with the same vigor that he treats the Brian-centric threads.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I did read it. At the end of the day, what difference does it make? It's not like power is being abused and people are getting banned for disgreeing.

[Juice Brohnston]

I merged the threads and changed the title of it at that time to make it obvious that this was the thread to discuss the issue.

 

However, and this this is just a however....I also read here that Guitarfool is a moderator at Brian's site as well. If so that seems like a conflict of interest. I don't even know if that's fact or fiction, but if true, in light of some other recent drama around here, it seems not quite right. And before I get a lecture from Guitarfool that's not my intent nor to imply conspiracies. It's just that negativity regarding Brian in any form is not tolerated on Brian's site and I hope that is not being factored into this forum for any reason. I have read outright insulting horrible stuff about Al  looking like death and have to endure OSD and his derangement syndrome concerning Mike on a daily basis.

Is this accurate?

http://brianwilson.websitetoolbox.com/profile/3984181

Wow, that's a bit of an eye opener for me. Not saying there IS a conflict of interest, but it opens the door for people to theorize about potential bias. It would be better if moderators on this board had no ties to 'official' message boards. I guess on the other side, maybe Brian doesn't do a Q&A here if those connections don't exist.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Again, what difference does it make if either of us moderate at another site? The rules aren't suddenly going to change.  If either of us were out of line and abusing power, don't you think Chuck would've stepped in? And again, if either of us were as bad as accused, wouldn't those dissenting posts and posters have been 'silenced'? 

[drbeachboy]

I did read it. At the end of the day, what difference does it make? It's not like power is being abused and people are getting banned for disgreeing.

It does make a difference and if you don't see it then you don't understand why there is turmoil in here. I don't care if the place is strick or totally lassez faire, just be consistent about it.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I did read it. At the end of the day, what difference does it make? It's not like power is being abused and people are getting banned for disgreeing.

It does make a difference and if you don't see it then you don't understand why there is turmoil in here. I don't care if the place is strick or totally lassez faire, just be consistent about it.

Oh, I know good and well why there's turmoil here.

My question is this...once we become moderators, do we suddenly lose our rights as human beings to have an opinion?  


Question for anybody feeling 'this way'...name ONE person who was banned for being anti-Brian. If you can name one person and can prove it's true, then I will step down as moderator and you can have this place to yourselves.

Here's the rub...it won't happen because it has NEVER been like that