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bgas
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August 31, 2015, 10:51:53 AM »
I don't see a brand name on Nick's guitar, and it appears very similar to the one used by Al in the Party photo.
Do you know what Nick played?
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August 31, 2015, 11:06:58 AM »
Yes, it was a Martin 0-18 tenor. I should have clipped in a photo showing the headstock more clearly, but it's definitely a Martin. Here is a video with another folk musician who worked with the We Five playing Nick's actual Martin tenor that he gave away in 1967. You'll hear the sound this kind of tenor guitar makes and how it fit into the Trio's guitar sound by watching this clip, the last few minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE1mbcEN8vw
It looks like Al is playing a similar model Martin, are there more photos of Al with it?
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August 31, 2015, 06:44:21 PM »
Thanks - googling "4-string acoustic guitar" brings up a wealth of info on the tenor guitar, including a plethora of ways in which it can be tuned.
FYI - it's Mick Taylor playing the Nashville-strung acoustic on "Wild Horses" (according to Keith's 1978 Guitar Player interview); Keith played 12-string acoustic & overdubbed the electric lead.
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August 31, 2015, 07:09:21 PM »
Y'know, having a 4-string guitar around during the actual
Party!
recording sessions makes this statement, from the TeenSet article on the
Party!
sessions, make a whole lot more sense:
"At this point, a string on Carl's guitar broke, which further delayed proceedings. While Carl went out to find a replacement string (or guitar), Billy Hensche (of Dino, Desi, and Billy) strummed the now-three-stringed guitar so Al Jardine could get in some extra practice."
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Quote from: c-man on August 31, 2015, 07:09:21 PM
Y'know, having a 4-string guitar around during the actual
Party!
recording sessions makes this statement, from the TeenSet article on the
Party!
sessions, make a whole lot more sense:
"At this point, a string on Carl's guitar broke, which further delayed proceedings. While Carl went out to find a replacement string (or guitar), Billy Hensche (of Dino, Desi, and Billy) strummed the now-three-stringed guitar so Al Jardine could get in some extra practice."
So I'm confused:
Billy was playing Carl's guitar, which Al had been playing in the out-take photo, while Carl was looking for a string/another 4 string guitar, so that Al could play it ??
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Quote from: bgas on August 31, 2015, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: c-man on August 31, 2015, 07:09:21 PM
Y'know, having a 4-string guitar around during the actual
Party!
recording sessions makes this statement, from the TeenSet article on the
Party!
sessions, make a whole lot more sense:
"At this point, a string on Carl's guitar broke, which further delayed proceedings. While Carl went out to find a replacement string (or guitar), Billy Hensche (of Dino, Desi, and Billy) strummed the now-three-stringed guitar so Al Jardine could get in some extra practice."
So I'm confused:
Billy was playing Carl's guitar, which Al had been playing in the out-take photo, while Carl was looking for a string/another 4 string guitar, so that Al could play it ??
There's a spot on the SOT "release" of the
Party!
sessions where Carl and Al trade guitars, so perhaps it's Al's guitar (makes the most sense, being a folkie mainstay) and Carl was using it when the string broke. On the other hand, being the main guitar collector in the band, it could have been Carl's, and Al just used it for the photo shoot (similarly, I doubt the guitar Bruce is seen strumming in that photo above was really Bruce's guitar, but more likely Carl's...or Al's...).
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Re: Carl and Al's guitars
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If there IS a tenor guitar somewhere on the
Party!
album, or the associated outtakes, where would it be?
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