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« Reply #425 on: January 10, 2017, 03:37:27 PM »

Here's question to everybody - tell me who in your opinion was

1) the best deuteragonist (=2nd crucial character) &
2) it was not just great performance but the leading role totally paled in comparison?

I'd say Angelina Jolie could beat 5 Winona Ryders if they cast in film again.
Sorry I missed this. George Sanders, Christopher Walken, Dianne Wiest, Shelley Winters and Joan Cusack in just about anything.
I like Beyoncé but Jennifer Hudson took over Dreamgirls.
Rita Moreno in West Side Story.
Harrison Ford in Star Wars.

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« Reply #426 on: January 11, 2017, 05:25:21 AM »

I don't think switching to black and white would necessarily make the film better. Maybe in some cases, though. But also, I would prefer it to be in black and white film not digitially switched. It's also hard for me to say whether or not I'm appreciate a black and white film because it's in black and white. It's difficult for me to divorce all the parts from each other, and also difficult to imagine what I might think of the film if it were in colour, because I don't know how the director might use colour.
Therefore, you disagree with other people that the b&w redeems bad film. & you like authenticity even in smallest details (imo the color is trifle & I use various digital devices to change the original film settings). Anyway, good points. I like hearing these opinions & compare. Do you keep open mind about seeing good films today, i.e. don't believe that the golden age of filmmaking is way past & there'll never be sth. as good?
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« Reply #427 on: January 11, 2017, 05:26:53 AM »

Yes, the dog Snoopy.  The comic strip you're referring to is called Peanuts, which was created in the early 1950s.  This spawned an animated Christmas special in 1965, the success of which had lead to further television specials, a TV show, and five movies to date.  It could be a translation thing. 

Are you asking if there have been cards made for movies?  If so, then yes, but I don't think that's as popular as it used to be.  In the last 20 years, the baseball card trade has really shifted from children to adults with more disposable income. 
Interesting, the comics I read was titled "Snoopy" & I thought it's the main hero. Checked some pictures in google - I forgot they're cute! :D Christmas special & 2015 is now in my list.

Yes. Thanks for the info. Which movie topics you completely pass by? To me it's drugs, historical (esp. 15-19 cent.), mafia, boring romance stuff.

Emily, same question to you as to KDS.
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« Reply #428 on: January 11, 2017, 05:30:28 AM »

Yes, the dog Snoopy.  The comic strip you're referring to is called Peanuts, which was created in the early 1950s.  This spawned an animated Christmas special in 1965, the success of which had lead to further television specials, a TV show, and five movies to date.  It could be a translation thing. 

Are you asking if there have been cards made for movies?  If so, then yes, but I don't think that's as popular as it used to be.  In the last 20 years, the baseball card trade has really shifted from children to adults with more disposable income. 
Interesting, the comics I read was titled "Snoopy" & I thought it's the main hero. Checked some pictures in google - I forgot they're cute! :D Christmas special & 2015 is now in my list.

Yes. Thanks for the info. Which movie topics you completely pass by? To me it's drugs, historical (esp. 15-19 cent.), mafia, boring romance stuff.

Emily, same question to you as to KDS.

Well, considering I'm an Orioles fan and NFL fan, I don't have a ton of time to devote to movies.  So, that's made me very picky. 

So, most sci fi, mafia, modern action (all pyrotechnics with no story or acting), arthouse movies, alternative comedy, or "chick flicks" don't really register on my radar.

And, while I'm a huge Batman fan, I'm in general not a fan of comic / super hero movies.
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« Reply #429 on: January 11, 2017, 05:50:51 AM »

Well, considering I'm an Orioles fan and NFL fan, I don't have a ton of time to devote to movies.  So, that's made me very picky. 

So, most sci fi, mafia, modern action (all pyrotechnics with no story or acting), arthouse movies, alternative comedy, or "chick flicks" don't really register on my radar.

And, while I'm a huge Batman fan, I'm in general not a fan of comic / super hero movies.
Me too. I am mainly horror/ suspense fan. Not movie buff per se. Agree with your choices except sci fi (we spoke of it).
What can you say about artistic liberties? F.ex. L&M used them. Do you feel that it's necessary in some cases & at times, you'd rather see the events in film depicted accurately?
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« Reply #430 on: January 11, 2017, 06:38:40 AM »

Well, considering I'm an Orioles fan and NFL fan, I don't have a ton of time to devote to movies.  So, that's made me very picky. 

So, most sci fi, mafia, modern action (all pyrotechnics with no story or acting), arthouse movies, alternative comedy, or "chick flicks" don't really register on my radar.

And, while I'm a huge Batman fan, I'm in general not a fan of comic / super hero movies.
Me too. I am mainly horror/ suspense fan. Not movie buff per se. Agree with your choices except sci fi (we spoke of it).
What can you say about artistic liberties? F.ex. L&M used them. Do you feel that it's necessary in some cases & at times, you'd rather see the events in film depicted accurately?

I think if a movie is based on a true story, you have to take some liberties to get it in a compact run time.  Love and Mercy is a perfect example.  Sure, Brian didn't start on Pet Sounds right after leaving the road, and Murry didn't sell Sea of Tunes at the time Smiley Smile was released, but since Pohland was focusing on the PS/Smile era, it would've been really clunky had they stuck to the actual dates. 

Also, at the end of the day, it's a movie, so we're to expect a retelling of the story that's not likely to be 100% accurate.
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« Reply #431 on: January 11, 2017, 08:06:15 AM »

I don't think switching to black and white would necessarily make the film better. Maybe in some cases, though. But also, I would prefer it to be in black and white film not digitially switched. It's also hard for me to say whether or not I'm appreciate a black and white film because it's in black and white. It's difficult for me to divorce all the parts from each other, and also difficult to imagine what I might think of the film if it were in colour, because I don't know how the director might use colour.
Therefore, you disagree with other people that the b&w redeems bad film. & you like authenticity even in smallest details (imo the color is trifle & I use various digital devices to change the original film settings). Anyway, good points. I like hearing these opinions & compare. Do you keep open mind about seeing good films today, i.e. don't believe that the golden age of filmmaking is way past & there'll never be sth. as good?

Well, I don't know if I would say I disagree but it would be very hard for me to make a judgement one way or the other about why I like the film.

Also, I'm not sure if it is authenticity that I like, only that I do think black and white film looks better than colour film that has been digitized to appear black and white. It's more of an aesthetic preference than a preference for authenticity. In other words, I'm not against digitization on principle.

I am optimistic about there being good films and I think there are always good ones out there. I do wish there was a "good film movement" like there was in the US during the late 60s and throughout the 70s but I think that we would need a massive cultural shift in order for that to happen. However, I never say never.
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« Reply #432 on: January 11, 2017, 09:03:56 AM »

I don't think switching to black and white would necessarily make the film better. Maybe in some cases, though. But also, I would prefer it to be in black and white film not digitially switched. It's also hard for me to say whether or not I'm appreciate a black and white film because it's in black and white. It's difficult for me to divorce all the parts from each other, and also difficult to imagine what I might think of the film if it were in colour, because I don't know how the director might use colour.
Therefore, you disagree with other people that the b&w redeems bad film. & you like authenticity even in smallest details (imo the color is trifle & I use various digital devices to change the original film settings). Anyway, good points. I like hearing these opinions & compare. Do you keep open mind about seeing good films today, i.e. don't believe that the golden age of filmmaking is way past & there'll never be sth. as good?

Well, I don't know if I would say I disagree but it would be very hard for me to make a judgement one way or the other about why I like the film.

Also, I'm not sure if it is authenticity that I like, only that I do think black and white film looks better than colour film that has been digitized to appear black and white. It's more of an aesthetic preference than a preference for authenticity. In other words, I'm not against digitization on principle.

I am optimistic about there being good films and I think there are always good ones out there. I do wish there was a "good film movement" like there was in the US during the late 60s and throughout the 70s but I think that we would need a massive cultural shift in order for that to happen. However, I never say never.

I'd like to see a return to good "clean" fun comedies.  Granted, I like a raunchy Kevin Smith / Judd Apatow type movie from time to time.  But, there's nothing being made now that's anything like the comedies of the 80s and early 90s with John Candy, Dan Akyroyd, Tom Hanks, Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, etc. 
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« Reply #433 on: January 11, 2017, 10:12:12 AM »

Yes, the dog Snoopy.  The comic strip you're referring to is called Peanuts, which was created in the early 1950s.  This spawned an animated Christmas special in 1965, the success of which had lead to further television specials, a TV show, and five movies to date.  It could be a translation thing. 

Are you asking if there have been cards made for movies?  If so, then yes, but I don't think that's as popular as it used to be.  In the last 20 years, the baseball card trade has really shifted from children to adults with more disposable income. 
Interesting, the comics I read was titled "Snoopy" & I thought it's the main hero. Checked some pictures in google - I forgot they're cute! :D Christmas special & 2015 is now in my list.

Yes. Thanks for the info. Which movie topics you completely pass by? To me it's drugs, historical (esp. 15-19 cent.), mafia, boring romance stuff.

Emily, same question to you as to KDS.
I usually avoid movies that are mainly based on the idea that people like watching people killing or otherwise attacking people.
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« Reply #434 on: January 11, 2017, 10:31:49 AM »

Yes, the dog Snoopy.  The comic strip you're referring to is called Peanuts, which was created in the early 1950s.  This spawned an animated Christmas special in 1965, the success of which had lead to further television specials, a TV show, and five movies to date.  It could be a translation thing. 

Are you asking if there have been cards made for movies?  If so, then yes, but I don't think that's as popular as it used to be.  In the last 20 years, the baseball card trade has really shifted from children to adults with more disposable income. 
Interesting, the comics I read was titled "Snoopy" & I thought it's the main hero. Checked some pictures in google - I forgot they're cute! :D Christmas special & 2015 is now in my list.

Yes. Thanks for the info. Which movie topics you completely pass by? To me it's drugs, historical (esp. 15-19 cent.), mafia, boring romance stuff.

Emily, same question to you as to KDS.
I usually avoid movies that are mainly based on the idea that people like watching people killing or otherwise attacking people.

Are you, by any chance, referring to the very tiresome horror subgenre - "tortune porn"
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« Reply #435 on: January 11, 2017, 10:38:00 AM »

Ugh. I'm sure if I were familiar with that subgenre, I would have been referring to it, but no, I was being more general. There are lots of mainstream movies predicated on the idea that people like watching violence, with not much beyond that to recommend them.
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« Reply #436 on: January 11, 2017, 10:42:42 AM »

Ugh. I'm sure if I were familiar with that subgenre, I would have been referring to it, but no, I was being more general. There are lots of mainstream movies predicated on the idea that people like watching violence, with not much beyond that to recommend them.

Basically, these are horror movies whose main purpose is to shock and disgust.  There's typically a lot of realistic looking gore, and usually little plot, are anything else to really make the movie worth watching.  I'm a horror fan, but that subgenre does absolutely nothing for me as it doesn't tend to offer the kind of escapist entertainment I seek.  After 90-100 minutes, you just feel like you need a long shower. 

One such movie that I was subjected to was a movie called A Serbian Film, a 90 minute ode to shock.  I couldn't even tell you what it was about, and if I described some of the scenes in the movie, I might be banned from this forum. 

But, I see where you're going.  And that's why I don't care for much modern action - as it's usually high on pyrotechnics and body counts, and low on acting and story. 
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« Reply #437 on: January 11, 2017, 11:10:24 AM »

Pretty sure we're on the same page here.
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« Reply #438 on: January 11, 2017, 11:12:29 AM »

Pretty sure we're on the same page here.

Yes, it seems that way.  Emily and KDS on the same page?  I like this thread. 
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« Reply #439 on: January 11, 2017, 11:15:46 AM »

It happens not very infrequently when the topic isn't politics.
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« Reply #440 on: January 11, 2017, 11:21:18 AM »

I don't think switching to black and white would necessarily make the film better. Maybe in some cases, though. But also, I would prefer it to be in black and white film not digitially switched. It's also hard for me to say whether or not I'm appreciate a black and white film because it's in black and white. It's difficult for me to divorce all the parts from each other, and also difficult to imagine what I might think of the film if it were in colour, because I don't know how the director might use colour.
Therefore, you disagree with other people that the b&w redeems bad film. & you like authenticity even in smallest details (imo the color is trifle & I use various digital devices to change the original film settings). Anyway, good points. I like hearing these opinions & compare. Do you keep open mind about seeing good films today, i.e. don't believe that the golden age of filmmaking is way past & there'll never be sth. as good?

Well, I don't know if I would say I disagree but it would be very hard for me to make a judgement one way or the other about why I like the film.

Also, I'm not sure if it is authenticity that I like, only that I do think black and white film looks better than colour film that has been digitized to appear black and white. It's more of an aesthetic preference than a preference for authenticity. In other words, I'm not against digitization on principle.

I am optimistic about there being good films and I think there are always good ones out there. I do wish there was a "good film movement" like there was in the US during the late 60s and throughout the 70s but I think that we would need a massive cultural shift in order for that to happen. However, I never say never.

I'd like to see a return to good "clean" fun comedies.  Granted, I like a raunchy Kevin Smith / Judd Apatow type movie from time to time.  But, there's nothing being made now that's anything like the comedies of the 80s and early 90s with John Candy, Dan Akyroyd, Tom Hanks, Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, etc. 

I loved a lot of their movies when I was a kid but I don't know if I would necessarily say those movies were clean. Movies like Caddyshack, Stripes, Doctor Detroit, etc. were pretty raunchy and adult-orient and were more than likely the single greatest influence on Kevin Smith and Judd Apatow (neither of whom I particularly like). While I think there is a place for those movies, I also think their abundance throughout the 80s was more of a sign of mainstream cinema becoming a bit more middle-of-the-road. I prefer the more chaotic, absurdist comedies from the 70s like Holy Grail, Young Frankenstein, and (okay it was 1980) Airplane. To me, those types of comedies have completely evaporated.
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« Reply #441 on: January 11, 2017, 11:27:30 AM »

I don't think switching to black and white would necessarily make the film better. Maybe in some cases, though. But also, I would prefer it to be in black and white film not digitially switched. It's also hard for me to say whether or not I'm appreciate a black and white film because it's in black and white. It's difficult for me to divorce all the parts from each other, and also difficult to imagine what I might think of the film if it were in colour, because I don't know how the director might use colour.
Therefore, you disagree with other people that the b&w redeems bad film. & you like authenticity even in smallest details (imo the color is trifle & I use various digital devices to change the original film settings). Anyway, good points. I like hearing these opinions & compare. Do you keep open mind about seeing good films today, i.e. don't believe that the golden age of filmmaking is way past & there'll never be sth. as good?

Well, I don't know if I would say I disagree but it would be very hard for me to make a judgement one way or the other about why I like the film.

Also, I'm not sure if it is authenticity that I like, only that I do think black and white film looks better than colour film that has been digitized to appear black and white. It's more of an aesthetic preference than a preference for authenticity. In other words, I'm not against digitization on principle.

I am optimistic about there being good films and I think there are always good ones out there. I do wish there was a "good film movement" like there was in the US during the late 60s and throughout the 70s but I think that we would need a massive cultural shift in order for that to happen. However, I never say never.

I'd like to see a return to good "clean" fun comedies.  Granted, I like a raunchy Kevin Smith / Judd Apatow type movie from time to time.  But, there's nothing being made now that's anything like the comedies of the 80s and early 90s with John Candy, Dan Akyroyd, Tom Hanks, Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, etc. 

I loved a lot of their movies when I was a kid but I don't know if I would necessarily say those movies were clean. Movies like Caddyshack, Stripes, Doctor Detroit, etc. were pretty raunchy and adult-orient and were more than likely the single greatest influence on Kevin Smith and Judd Apatow (neither of whom I particularly like). While I think there is a place for those movies, I also think their abundance throughout the 80s was more of a sign of mainstream cinema becoming a bit more middle-of-the-road. I prefer the more chaotic, absurdist comedies from the 70s like Holy Grail, Young Frankenstein, and (okay it was 1980) Airplane. To me, those types of comedies have completely evaporated.

I should've provided examples.  I was thinking more along the lines of Summer Rental, Fletch, Funny Farm, The Great Outdoors, Dragnet, The Burbs, Ghostbusters, Groundhog Day, etc. 

Sure, there were also Animal House, Caddyshack, and Porky's, but I could actually sit down and watch Caddyshack with my father as a teenager.  Not to sound like a prude, but I couldn't imagine, at 15-16, sitting down with my dad to watch Clerks or The 40 Year Old Virgin. 

So, back then, I think you had more of a range when it came to comedy. 

And I'm with you on absurd comedies like Python, Mel Brooks, and the Zucker Bros.  That type of comedy is surely a lost art.  Now, you have stuff like "(Insert Genre Here) Movie" which aren't really parodies or absurd, but they just make a lot of references to movies while inserting d*ck and fart jokes. 
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« Reply #442 on: January 11, 2017, 02:07:05 PM »

I found all three original prints of star wars on VCR for $2.38 at the thrift store.
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« Reply #443 on: January 11, 2017, 03:32:39 PM »

I found all three original prints of star wars on VCR for $2.38 at the thrift store.
Awesome. Do you have a VHS player? Are you converting to digital?
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« Reply #444 on: January 11, 2017, 04:54:45 PM »

Jury rigged my HD TV to my vcr!
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« Reply #445 on: January 12, 2017, 02:27:39 AM »

I think if a movie is based on a true story, you have to take some liberties to get it in a compact run time.  Love and Mercy is a perfect example.  Sure, Brian didn't start on Pet Sounds right after leaving the road, and Murry didn't sell Sea of Tunes at the time Smiley Smile was released, but since Pohland was focusing on the PS/Smile era, it would've been really clunky had they stuck to the actual dates. 

Also, at the end of the day, it's a movie, so we're to expect a retelling of the story that's not likely to be 100% accurate.
I ask after seeing tendency for people who study history/ famous figure/ crime cases to bash the film for these artistic liberties. They say that if the event behind the film is real, it must be 100% accurate.

OK, that's settled. What about fictional book adaptations? Does it annoy you to see that the film cuts some potentially cool/ interesting scenes present in the book?
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« Reply #446 on: January 12, 2017, 02:28:59 AM »

Well, I don't know if I would say I disagree but it would be very hard for me to make a judgement one way or the other about why I like the film.

Also, I'm not sure if it is authenticity that I like, only that I do think black and white film looks better than colour film that has been digitized to appear black and white. It's more of an aesthetic preference than a preference for authenticity. In other words, I'm not against digitization on principle.

I am optimistic about there being good films and I think there are always good ones out there. I do wish there was a "good film movement" like there was in the US during the late 60s and throughout the 70s but I think that we would need a massive cultural shift in order for that to happen. However, I never say never.
Sounds like you've got sharp eye for that. I couldn't tell digitally switched from real b&w, should the color be unknown. At least it's not the main draw if I see the film.

Consider this: smb. trashes "Annie Hall" after your positive review of it. Or can be other revered movie. Would you be quick to say "troll" even after they explained themselves? Does it surprise/ shock you if smb. doesn't like the film that impressed you to the point that you thought it's impossible for thinking human to dislike? Did you ever even think like that? Again, in IMDB boards people disqualify anybody who diverts from popular consensus.
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« Reply #447 on: January 12, 2017, 02:31:55 AM »

I usually avoid movies that are mainly based on the idea that people like watching people killing or otherwise attacking people.
KDS' question & your answer clarified what you mean but can you drop some titles?
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« Reply #448 on: January 12, 2017, 04:10:13 AM »

I usually ignore them so intently that I don't retain the titles - but I'll spend a little time today trying to think of some. I'll also add Disney for kids movies - the animated movies. I usually really don't like key parts of the message.
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« Reply #449 on: January 12, 2017, 05:22:53 AM »

I usually ignore them so intently that I don't retain the titles - but I'll spend a little time today trying to think of some. I'll also add Disney for kids movies - the animated movies. I usually really don't like key parts of the message.

Do you mean the princess movies, the older animated ones, or the newer ones (ie. Nemo, Toy Story), and what message?
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