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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2013, 12:24:07 PM »

Strange that they would release this of all things. Wendy is a mystery song for me. It never really was a hit, and it is often forgotten yet I feel it is continually pushed to the public to appear more than what it actually was. Hell, I'd take Barbara Ann over this song anyday regardless if it's the studio version or an unheard BBC live cut from 1964...

this is a mystery quote for me.

Wendy is a Brian Wilson classic... an early example of more sophisticated songwriting, harmonies, and "deceptively sunny melancholy" as the article states.

and Carl's solo is fine.
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2013, 12:37:43 PM »

This isn't a straight live recording though surely? Mike's voice is sounds doubletracked. Not just Mike, Brian too.

OK, I've read the other thread now. Perhaps they could be merged?

Really enjoying this though. From the buzz of that bass in the intro through  Carl's solo (which sounds straight off a Joe Meek record) and to that last twang. Fantastic!
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2013, 12:48:40 PM »

This isn't a straight live recording though surely? Mike's voice is sounds doubletracked. Not just Mike, Brian too.

OK, I've read the other thread now. Perhaps they could be merged?

Really enjoying this though. From the buzz of that bass in the intro through  Carl's solo (which sounds straight off a Joe Meek record) and to that last twang. Fantastic!

I think they're just singing in unison along w/ Mike.
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2013, 12:53:10 PM »

This isn't a straight live recording though surely? Mike's voice is sounds doubletracked. Not just Mike, Brian too.

OK, I've read the other thread now. Perhaps they could be merged?

Really enjoying this though. From the buzz of that bass in the intro through  Carl's solo (which sounds straight off a Joe Meek record) and to that last twang. Fantastic!

I think they're just singing in unison along w/ Mike.

Really sounds overdubbed to me. There's another thread lower down with this info.....

Most BBC sessions weren't (and aren't to this day) actually live. They were typically recorded, very quickly (and usually "live" in the sense of being recorded all at once, vocals and instruments, directly to two track) in the BBC's own studios several days before being actually broadcast. By 1964 it was even typical for them to feature simple (usually vocal) overdubs like the ones on Wendy here. I'm writing a book about the history of BBC sessions, so we've stumbled on my area of expertise here!
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2013, 02:35:22 PM »

This isn't a straight live recording though surely? Mike's voice is sounds doubletracked. Not just Mike, Brian too.

OK, I've read the other thread now. Perhaps they could be merged?

Really enjoying this though. From the buzz of that bass in the intro through  Carl's solo (which sounds straight off a Joe Meek record) and to that last twang. Fantastic!

I think they're just singing in unison along w/ Mike.

Really sounds overdubbed to me. There's another thread lower down with this info.....

Most BBC sessions weren't (and aren't to this day) actually live. They were typically recorded, very quickly (and usually "live" in the sense of being recorded all at once, vocals and instruments, directly to two track) in the BBC's own studios several days before being actually broadcast. By 1964 it was even typical for them to feature simple (usually vocal) overdubs like the ones on Wendy here. I'm writing a book about the history of BBC sessions, so we've stumbled on my area of expertise here!

Makes a lot of sense… didn't the BBs sometimes take advantage of the facilities of sessions such as this to record instrumental tracks then overdub/double track the vox/backing vox?

Haven't been able to listen yet… wonder what tomorrow's track will be?
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« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2013, 03:37:35 PM »

I've been listening to so much post-1976 BB/BW solo stuff lately that I was knocked out by Brian and Mike's vocals on this track. They are so smooth, young, and emotional. Those two vocal performances by Brian and Mike epitomize why they were the greatest vocal group ever. Incomparable. They get you every time. This version and the studio version are different enough to enjoy/value both!
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« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2013, 05:42:47 PM »

At the very end (1:54ish) Denny plays a great little pick-up that has his crazy smash-cymbal-then-silence-cymbal thing that he does, like in Surfin USA...Love it!
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« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2013, 08:31:26 PM »

Strange that they would release this of all things. Wendy is a mystery song for me. It never really was a hit, and it is often forgotten yet I feel it is continually pushed to the public to appear more than what it actually was. Hell, I'd take Barbara Ann over this song anyday regardless if it's the studio version or an unheard BBC live cut from 1964...

It all comes down to its inclusion on Endless Summer.  A LOT of people bought that album when it came out so a good number of people are as familiar with it as a good chunk of the early hits.  The band also played it on many TV appearances around the time of it's release (and later).
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« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2013, 10:47:17 PM »

Definitely more evidence for my theory that Carl was never a great lead guitarist.
(Very impressed by his rhythm guitar and his ability to play complex chords and sing awesome vocals at the same time)

d00d was only 18 at the time of this recording. Give 'im a break, Grow-Hee. Cry
eh his studio solos ain't much betta thanx

Your last phrase is definitely evidence for my theory that you're pretty biased.  From your spelling I take it you're related to Awldsyrfahdood?

If your spelling is a reaction to runner's "Grow-Hee", I take my previous phrase back.

Carl was only 17 when he played that BBC thing. And I'd like to see a 16 year old who can crank out something like "Surf Jam".
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« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2013, 12:21:50 AM »

Being the pedant that I am I think the BBC tracks would have fit perfectly well on disc 1 in this set. This would have freed up room for some more unreleased gems on disc 6.
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« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2013, 12:36:01 AM »

Being the pedant that I am I think the BBC tracks would have fit perfectly well on disc 1 in this set. This would have freed up room for some more unreleased gems on disc 6.

Agreed though I wonder how late in the compilation process they surfaced? Must be about a year ago that Hushabye was heard on the radio in the UK but the box was already in the works at that time. Would different discs be signed off at different times?
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« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2013, 02:23:16 AM »

Wendy has always been a favourite Beach Boys track of mine, and I really enjoy this live version, warts and all. I just love the melody and the singing, and this tune has always been in my top 20 Beach Boys songs.

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« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2013, 02:32:32 AM »

Being the pedant that I am I think the BBC tracks would have fit perfectly well on disc 1 in this set. This would have freed up room for some more unreleased gems on disc 6.

Agreed though I wonder how late in the compilation process they surfaced? Must be about a year ago that Hushabye was heard on the radio in the UK but the box was already in the works at that time. Would different discs be signed off at different times?


Last year "Hushabye" from these sessions was played on BBC Radio. They said it had just surfaced. But I don't know if BRI or Capitol or whoever does these things already had it then
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« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2013, 03:08:07 AM »

Being the pedant that I am I think the BBC tracks would have fit perfectly well on disc 1 in this set. This would have freed up room for some more unreleased gems on disc 6.

Agreed though I wonder how late in the compilation process they surfaced? Must be about a year ago that Hushabye was heard on the radio in the UK but the box was already in the works at that time. Would different discs be signed off at different times?


Last year "Hushabye" from these sessions was played on BBC Radio. They said it had just surfaced. But I don't know if BRI or Capitol or whoever does these things already had it then

Just looked it up -  July last year was when it was broadcast.

I make that seven "leaks" now:

Wendy (BBC)
Hushabye (BBC)
Wild Honey (live)
Help Me Rhonda (live)
Where is She (studio)
Goin' To The Beach (two versions)
California Feelin'

That it so far?
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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2013, 04:48:19 AM »

Definitely more evidence for my theory that Carl was never a great lead guitarist.
(Very impressed by his rhythm guitar and his ability to play complex chords and sing awesome vocals at the same time)

d00d was only 18 at the time of this recording. Give 'im a break, Grow-Hee. Cry
eh his studio solos ain't much betta thanx

Your last phrase is definitely evidence for my theory that you're pretty biased.  From your spelling I take it you're related to Awldsyrfahdood?

If your spelling is a reaction to runner's "Grow-Hee", I take my previous phrase back.

Carl was only 17 when he played that BBC thing. And I'd like to see a 16 year old who can crank out something like "Surf Jam".
That's just how Runners and I talk sometimes. I would never call Bruce Brooth or Mike Myke.

Never been a big fan of Carl's solos, that's all. Not trashing him. I even gave him credit for his rhythm work. Not saying he's a bad guitarist or something. I know he was very young in this performance but I've not seen a solo of his I liked in the decades after this performance. Oh well he was great at tons of other stuff.
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« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2013, 05:37:40 AM »

I've uploaded the MP3 to here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2z6lly

I really like the solo but for me the vocals are outstanding

I wonder what will appear next? Grin
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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2013, 08:09:40 AM »

I've uploaded the MP3 to here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2z6lly
Thanks again, Cliff! BBC Wendy's a good gift for my Winamp. First off, I like the studio cut - it's not near my favorite by The BBs, but it's still a nice little song. Now, upon hearing this newly found "old" version, I can tell you with big certainty that I prefer it to the former. Never heard the more detuned & offbeat guitar (solo) & I dig it. Let's say, it's cool in a weird way. The intro is very garage-rockish. As to the vocals, they're as usual are A-1! Somehow, the full tone (from C --> B) lower key works well. Conclusion: of all the leaked MaICal tracks, Wendy is the best imo.
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« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2013, 09:00:04 AM »

I've uploaded the MP3 to here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2z6lly
Thanks again, Cliff! BBC Wendy's a good gift for my Winamp. First off, I like the studio cut - it's not near my favorite by The BBs, but it's still a nice little song. Now, upon hearing this newly found "old" version, I can tell you with big certainty that I prefer it to the former. Never heard the more detuned & offbeat guitar (solo) & I dig it. Let's say, it's cool in a weird way. The intro is very garage-rockish. As to the vocals, they're as usual are A-1! Somehow, the full tone (from C --> B) lower key works well. Conclusion: of all the leaked MaICal tracks, Wendy is the best imo.

No worries!
I think of all the leaked tracks, Wild Honey is still my favourite. I played it last night to some friends who absolutely loved it and asked who it was. The response was  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2013, 09:32:50 AM »

Carl's solo is okay, but it's Al who plays a wrong chord in the middle of the solo, which makes it sound bad.
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« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2013, 12:14:34 PM »

Carl's solo is okay, but it's Al who plays a wrong chord in the middle of the solo, which makes it sound bad.

I don't mind this error. It makes them human Wink

This reminds me of the Lost Concert when Al also makes a mistake during In My Room. The look on Carl and Brian's faces is priceless Grin
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« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2013, 12:46:31 AM »

Definitely more evidence for my theory that Carl was never a great lead guitarist.
(Very impressed by his rhythm guitar and his ability to play complex chords and sing awesome vocals at the same time)

d00d was only 18 at the time of this recording. Give 'im a break, Grow-Hee. Cry
eh his studio solos ain't much betta thanx

Your last phrase is definitely evidence for my theory that you're pretty biased.  From your spelling I take it you're related to Awldsyrfahdood?

If your spelling is a reaction to runner's "Grow-Hee", I take my previous phrase back.

Carl was only 17 when he played that BBC thing. And I'd like to see a 16 year old who can crank out something like "Surf Jam".
That's just how Runners and I talk sometimes. I would never call Bruce Brooth or Mike Myke.

Never been a big fan of Carl's solos, that's all. Not trashing him. I even gave him credit for his rhythm work. Not saying he's a bad guitarist or something. I know he was very young in this performance but I've not seen a solo of his I liked in the decades after this performance. Oh well he was great at tons of other stuff.

Thanks for clarification. Smiley
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