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« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2013, 05:50:40 AM »

Agreed, this "vault track" is a total joke and didn't come out for reason. Mike is obsessed with the superficial beach image of the BBs.

When you heard it was destined for MiC, what exactly were you expecting the subject matter to be?
A Do it again knock-off and I was exactly right.... Wink
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« Reply #126 on: July 08, 2013, 05:54:06 AM »

Sucks that this crap is on the box instead of "Carry Me Home".
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« Reply #127 on: July 08, 2013, 05:58:07 AM »

Sucks that this crap is on the box instead of "Carry Me Home".

Something tells me it wasn`t an either/or situation...

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« Reply #128 on: July 08, 2013, 06:38:37 AM »

Sucks that this crap is on the box instead of "Carry Me Home".

But one mans crap is another mans treasure. We all have different tastes, even in the Beach Boys songs we like. I for one can't wait for this on the Made In California box-set, even more-so now I've heard that live version.

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« Reply #129 on: July 08, 2013, 06:50:25 AM »

Without passing any comment on the individual track whatsoever, I get the impression and have for a long time that Mike cannot distinguish between song in terms of artistic quality, only commercial viability. I doubt he sees much difference in quality between Goin' to the Beach and I Know There's an Answer, or Warmth of the Sun. In terms of commercialism though he'll probably have an opinion.
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« Reply #130 on: July 08, 2013, 07:01:16 AM »

Without passing any comment on the individual track whatsoever, I get the impression and have for a long time that Mike cannot distinguish between song in terms of artistic quality, only commercial viability. I doubt he sees much difference in quality between Goin' to the Beach and I Know There's an Answer, or Warmth of the Sun. In terms of commercialism though he'll probably have an opinion.
I think you are about on the money, there. It seems with Mike that quality and hit ability go hand in hand. Though, with Brian's songs, they did kind of go hand and hand. That can spoil a lead singer's thinking, you know.
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« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2013, 08:26:26 AM »

Without passing any comment on the individual track whatsoever, I get the impression and have for a long time that Mike cannot distinguish between song in terms of artistic quality, only commercial viability. I doubt he sees much difference in quality between Goin' to the Beach and I Know There's an Answer, or Warmth of the Sun. In terms of commercialism though he'll probably have an opinion.

And therein lies the problem. Was a great singer; was a great lyricist; is a great frontman. None of these should be denied, but...
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« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2013, 08:38:54 AM »


The song is what it is (I wonder if the studio version is really so short) but I think it's fantastic that they still sometimes include rare/odd/unreleased songs.
Kudos to Scott for making it happen and to Mike for letting it happen.


Agreed!
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« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2013, 09:07:53 AM »

Without passing any comment on the individual track whatsoever, I get the impression and have for a long time that Mike cannot distinguish between song in terms of artistic quality, only commercial viability. I doubt he sees much difference in quality between Goin' to the Beach and I Know There's an Answer, or Warmth of the Sun. In terms of commercialism though he'll probably have an opinion.

And therein lies the problem. Was a great singer; was a great lyricist; is a great frontman. None of these should be denied, but...
You have to remember too, that back when that song was written they were searching for anything that would work. Like that Carl quote where he said they were damned if they do, or damned if they don't. They were grasping at anything or any style that would work for them on record. Listening to 15 Big Ones through The Beach Boys (85) albums will tell your ears that.
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Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
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« Reply #134 on: July 08, 2013, 11:51:53 AM »

"You have to remember too, that back when that song was written they were searching for anything that would work. Like that Carl quote where he said they were damned if they do, or damned if they don't. They were grasping at anything or any style that would work for them on record. Listening to 15 Big Ones through The Beach Boys (85) albums will tell your ears that"

Well, I think there's a definite style to Love You and Brian was certainly attempting to go for a particular style for Adult Child - until he clearly lost interest...
I don't get the obsession with such a bit of fluff 30-odd years later...? It perfectly captures his lack of ambition for the band - or rather, a lack of musical ambition that seems to have been with him since the early 70s. Perhaps that's a little too damning - after all, the stuff on his unreleased first album was good and some of it was a lot better than what came out on MIU, LA or KTSA, but you know what I mean.
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« Reply #135 on: July 08, 2013, 11:55:48 AM »

Wow! Goin' To the Beach is dire crap ... why am I not surprised?
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« Reply #136 on: July 08, 2013, 12:21:36 PM »

"You have to remember too, that back when that song was written they were searching for anything that would work. Like that Carl quote where he said they were damned if they do, or damned if they don't. They were grasping at anything or any style that would work for them on record. Listening to 15 Big Ones through The Beach Boys (85) albums will tell your ears that"

Well, I think there's a definite style to Love You and Brian was certainly attempting to go for a particular style for Adult Child - until he clearly lost interest...
I don't get the obsession with such a bit of fluff 30-odd years later...? It perfectly captures his lack of ambition for the band - or rather, a lack of musical ambition that seems to have been with him since the early 70s. Perhaps that's a little too damning - after all, the stuff on his unreleased first album was good and some of it was a lot better than what came out on MIU, LA or KTSA, but you know what I mean.
I think that there was always that hope that one of those types of songs would catch lightning in a bottle; they never did until Kokomo, and that was sort of a fluke, really.
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Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen.  ---hypehat
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« Reply #137 on: July 08, 2013, 01:48:00 PM »

Here's an alternate video of Goin' To The Beach, much better sound than the other one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6_LVL_ZKk

I don't know, I kind of like it.  It's catchy and it's fun.  Sure it's corny, but not everything has to be high art.
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« Reply #138 on: July 08, 2013, 01:58:40 PM »

Here's an alternate video of Goin' To The Beach, much better sound than the other one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6_LVL_ZKk

I don't know, I kind of like it.  It's catchy and it's fun.  Sure it's corny, but not everything has to be high art.
Is it just me or does Mike sing better with whiskers on his puss? Wink
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Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
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« Reply #139 on: July 08, 2013, 02:08:02 PM »

Here's an alternate video of Goin' To The Beach, much better sound than the other one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6_LVL_ZKk

I don't know, I kind of like it.  It's catchy and it's fun.  Sure it's corny, but not everything has to be high art.
Is it just me or does Mike sing better with whiskers on his puss? Wink

I always thought Mike sang better when he had hair on his puss.
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« Reply #140 on: July 08, 2013, 02:32:14 PM »

Just got back, ace show. Was very taken aback by "Goin' to the Beach". They packed a lot into their hour yet those dang beach balls provided more entertainment for the young girls around us at the front.

How was "Goin' to the Beach"?

Sounded grand and actually got the crowd going, I strongly disagree with the people who think it didn't make a good encore; they tried something new and it went down smoothly. They were the only act to get called back for an encore (I left before JLS so I'm not sure if they did) and I thought it was over after Fun, Fun, Fun. The band seemed caught off-guard by being asked for an encore it seemed and when they said they'd do "one more" I thought "OK so maybe Surfin' USA?" only to be pleasantly surprised and pretty gob-smacked.

All the criticisms I've read here are, with all due respect, unfounded. A gig is so much more than YouTube videos. The crowd was annoying at times and the beach balls were a nuisance (because I'm a killjoy) but the show was better than what I expected - obviously the sound is thinner than the C50 shows but that's kind of a given really and is of little consequence. Then again these kind of criticisms come with the territory of this board alongside the usual OSD trolling, though it's not like anyone takes it seriously LOL

The main reason I went to this gig was because I thought the 90 for the Henley concert was extortionate but now I'd actually gladly (well maybe slightly-begrudgingly) hand over that cash to see these guys play again. Although I won't because I'll never be able to justify that to myself Roll Eyes

This is exactly right. I just got back from London, having travelled from Manchester to get to this show, and I've been trying to avoid coming on this board because of the negativity, but wanted to see what anyone else said. I can't believe that when Mike tries something different -- encoring with *an unreleased song from the Keepin' The Summer Alive sessions that NO-ONE has ever heard before in its finished form*, of all things -- people are trying to pick holes.

I'll be doing a proper review on my blog, but here's the thing. They weren't playing before their own audience -- this was mostly small children and their parents. Paul Young said he'd got into trouble for extending his set by *thirty seconds* to announce the Wimbledon winner. The Saturdays (who very much *WERE* playing to their own audience -- the kids were screaming) had to drop a song.

Mike & Bruce had a longer set than anyone else on the bill, and before they came on, everyone around me was complaining about that -- saying "It's an HOUR?! Why aren't JLS on yet? Who wants to see the Beach Boys?"

Yet when they got told "just one more song" by the backstage staff, they actually did two more -- Barbara Ann and Fun Fun Fun -- and they got called back for an encore by the entire crowd ROARING "MORE! MORE!".

And when they came back for that encore, they did a song that was in the set just for us hardcore fans.

They won that crowd round, in a way I've never seen anyone do before. It was an ASTONISHING show, and anyone who wasn't there nit-picking it should just grow up.
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« Reply #141 on: July 08, 2013, 02:42:15 PM »

Many thanks Andrew!  A much needed refreshing bucket of cold water!  :D

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« Reply #142 on: July 08, 2013, 02:46:27 PM »

Here's an alternate video of Goin' To The Beach, much better sound than the other one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6_LVL_ZKk

I don't know, I kind of like it.  It's catchy and it's fun.  Sure it's corny, but not everything has to be high art.
Is it just me or does Mike sing better with whiskers on his puss? Wink

Don't say puss.
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« Reply #143 on: July 08, 2013, 04:22:17 PM »

Andrew Hickey, you make that gig sound like hell! I think I was better off in the pub watching the tennis...

Maybe Mike&Bruce will play, y'know, a normal gig in a normal venue in the UK at some point before one of us dies so I can actually go and see them.
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« Reply #144 on: July 08, 2013, 04:31:19 PM »

Andrew Hickey, you make that gig sound like hell! I think I was better off in the pub watching the tennis...

Maybe Mike&Bruce will play, y'know, a normal gig in a normal venue in the UK at some point before one of us dies so I can actually go and see them.

No, it was great, though the acts on before them were very much not my kind of thing.
I'd *definitely* rather see one of their full length theatre shows, of course, but the way they won that crowd round was astonishing.
But yes, I hope they do a proper tour of the UK again sometime soon...
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« Reply #145 on: July 08, 2013, 04:40:58 PM »

Here's an alternate video of Goin' To The Beach, much better sound than the other one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6_LVL_ZKk

I don't know, I kind of like it.  It's catchy and it's fun.  Sure it's corny, but not everything has to be high art.
Still crap, in my opinion. Maybe the studio version with more real Beach Boys on it (Carl) might make it better.
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« Reply #146 on: July 08, 2013, 04:42:57 PM »

Thanks for that review Andrew. It seems from other reviews that their performance started quite slowly (I don`t understand the obsession with playing Catch a Wave at shows like this) but built as it went on.

It will be interesting to see what setlist they play at Henley which will be a longer show. It would be nice if Goin to the Beach remained but hopefully Wild Honey will make an appearance too. It would be a shame if they are only to throw in one of these as an encore...
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« Reply #147 on: July 08, 2013, 04:45:10 PM »

Yeah, they seem like they worked a miracle with the tweens. It's the power of the music, isn't it? You couldn't have picked a better day for it!

A proper tour would be ideal - these fly by night weirdo small 'festival' appearances just aren't practical for my wallet, given that you're seeing the band for an hour. I'd really like to give M&B a chance, as boots and youtube vids don't give the greatest picture, but I've never had the opportunity! I thought the Tories were all about welcoming foreign business interests...
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« Reply #148 on: July 08, 2013, 04:47:02 PM »

Thanks for that review Andrew. It seems from other reviews that their performance started quite slowly (I don`t understand the obsession with playing Catch a Wave at shows like this) but built as it went on.

It will be interesting to see what setlist they play at Henley which will be a longer show. It would be nice if Goin to the Beach remained but hopefully Wild Honey will make an appearance too. It would be a shame if they are only to throw in one of these as an encore...

It did build -- with the exception of Kokomo, which, as always, killed the atmosphere stone dead.
Henley's only 90 minutes, I think, and they did over their allotted hour at Hyde Park (though not by much). I'd guess the same set plus Hawaii, Darlin', Cottonfields, Why Do Fools Fall In Love, 409, Shut Down, In My Room, Rock & Roll Music, When I Grow Up and maybe Don't Back Down, Dance Dance Dance and/or Do You Wanna Dance. MAYBE Heroes & Villains.
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« Reply #149 on: July 08, 2013, 07:07:11 PM »

Here's an alternate video of Goin' To The Beach, much better sound than the other one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6_LVL_ZKk

I don't know, I kind of like it.  It's catchy and it's fun.  Sure it's corny, but not everything has to be high art.
But this junk isn't even high corn-not even good porta potty material.
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