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Quote from: Bill Tobelman on December 07, 2011, 07:46:54 PM
The session tapes say "Psycodelic Sounds." The reason it's "psycodelic" is because the letters in the middle spell "code."
Arthur Koestler explains that "the term 'Matrix' was introduced to refer to any skill or ability, to any pattern of activity governed by a set of rules---it's 'code'."
So that's why Brian spelled it that way.
man, you're funny. You kill me, man!
Keep posting.
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Quote from: Bill Tobelman on December 07, 2011, 07:46:54 PM
The session tapes say "Psycodelic Sounds." The reason it's "psycodelic" is because the letters in the middle spell "code."
Arthur Koestler explains that "the term 'Matrix' was introduced to refer to any skill or ability, to any pattern of activity governed by a set of rules---it's 'code'."
So that's why Brian spelled it that way.
That will do me
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Quote from: bgas on December 07, 2011, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: Bill Tobelman on December 07, 2011, 07:46:54 PM
The session tapes say "Psycodelic Sounds." The reason it's "psycodelic" is because the letters in the middle spell "code."
Arthur Koestler explains that "the term 'Matrix' was introduced to refer to any skill or ability, to any pattern of activity governed by a set of rules---it's 'code'."
So that's why Brian spelled it that way.
man, you're funny. You kill me, man!
Keep posting.
The humour of SMiLE
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One of the psycodelic sessions that did not make the box set has a participant saying something like, "we need another set of values" apparently for the next chant.
Once again folks, this is exactly what we're talking about when speaking about matrices & codes. Those are essentially a set of values.
The Act Of Creation in action (but without explanation!). Dig.
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Quote from: Bill Tobelman on December 07, 2011, 08:15:42 PM
One of the psycodelic sessions that did not make the box set has a participant saying something like, "we need another set of values" apparently for the next chant.
Once again folks, this is exactly what we're talking about when speaking about matrices & codes. Those are essentially a set of values.
The Act Of Creation in action (but without explanation!). Dig.
This is becoming tragic.
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I don't understand. Is this guy serious? Because this seems like he's being purposefully ridiculous just to get a rise from all of us.
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I am not so sure anymore.. It died off for a while.
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Quote from: sweetdudejim on December 07, 2011, 08:44:20 PM
I don't understand. Is this guy serious? Because this seems like he's being purposefully ridiculous just to get a rise from all of us.
Nah, he's just smokin' some good poo.
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all you have to do when he posts is just scroll past them and not read them.
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Has he always been like this, though?
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Quote from: Sam_BFC on December 07, 2011, 03:52:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 07, 2011, 03:44:36 PM
the very slight degree of precognition I used to possess.
Wow what happened to it?
Just faded away. I don't think the drink or drugs helped.
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Quote from: Bill Tobelman on December 07, 2011, 07:46:54 PM
The session tapes say "Psycodelic Sounds." The reason it's "psycodelic" is because the letters in the middle spell "code."
Arthur Koestler explains that "the term 'Matrix' was introduced to refer to any skill or ability, to any pattern of activity governed by a set of rules---it's 'code'."
So that's why Brian spelled it that way.
Brian didn't spell it that way. That's not his writing, and it's spelled that way because whoever wrote the title on that tape box (and I won't embarrass them by saying who it was) couldn't spell psychedelic correctly, having never had to write it down before. Occam's Razor applies perfectly here. Bill, you're starting to make a fool of yourself again. Best stop.
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Quote from: Bill Tobelman on December 07, 2011, 07:32:12 PM
But I still maintain that the Zen explanation is the best one available prior to Arthur Koestler & The Act Of Creation.
No, and that's the problem: you don't maintain it's the
best
explanation - you insist that it's the
only
one. That's bigotry in my lexicon: "a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion." Worse, you're twisting fact to fit your premise (see the "psycodelic" misunderstanding).
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Quote from: Mikie on December 07, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on December 07, 2011, 08:44:20 PM
I don't understand. Is this guy serious? Because this seems like he's being purposefully ridiculous just to get a rise from all of us.
Nah, he's just smokin' some good poo.
I think his research has led him to Brian Wilson's secret weed stash from 1966....
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Is it really that big a deal to have a very specific theoretical model applied (and re-applied...) to a really exciting work? I mean, I'm not a fan of psychoanalytic literary theory, but if an article appears in a journal using that model, I don't have to engage with it. But if I do, frustratingly, I usually learn something I hadn't considered before. And it never hurts to be civil, or at least, to tone down the condescension. BT's been around these boards long enough to deserve better.
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Quote from: UK_Surf on December 08, 2011, 04:34:53 AM
BT's been around these boards long enough to deserve better.
By that logic, I should be utterly fucking revered. But I'm not. Life's odd that way sometimes.
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Quote from: UK_Surf on December 08, 2011, 04:34:53 AM
Is it really that big a deal to have a very specific theoretical model applied (and re-applied...) to a really exciting work? I mean, I'm not a fan of psychoanalytic literary theory, but if an article appears in a journal using that model, I don't have to engage with it. But if I do, frustratingly, I usually learn something I hadn't considered before. And it never hurts to be civil, or at least, to tone down the condescension. BT's been around these boards long enough to deserve better.
I agree. Like most true believers, he may take his arguments to ridiculous extremes at times (I still ain't hearing 'Fresh Zen air'!), but I think his interpretation is fascinating and valid in its way. It is one way of approaching this extraordinary work of art, but not THE way.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 08, 2011, 05:01:05 AM
Quote from: UK_Surf on December 08, 2011, 04:34:53 AM
BT's been around these boards long enough to deserve better.
By that logic, I should be utterly f*cking revered. But I'm not. Life's odd that way sometimes.
Well, at least grudgingly respected!
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....plus, dude, have you checked your avatar lately??
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 08, 2011, 05:01:05 AM
Quote from: UK_Surf on December 08, 2011, 04:34:53 AM
BT's been around these boards long enough to deserve better.
By that logic, I should be utterly f*cking revered. But I'm not. Life's odd that way sometimes.
Not to worry, I keep your voodoo doll on a pedestal
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 08, 2011, 01:40:01 AM
Quote from: Bill Tobelman on December 07, 2011, 07:46:54 PM
The session tapes say "Psycodelic Sounds." The reason it's "psycodelic" is because the letters in the middle spell "code."
Arthur Koestler explains that "the term 'Matrix' was introduced to refer to any skill or ability, to any pattern of activity governed by a set of rules---it's 'code'."
So that's why Brian spelled it that way.
Brian didn't spell it that way. That's not his writing, and it's spelled that way because whoever wrote the title on that tape box (and I won't embarrass them by saying who it was) couldn't spell psychedelic correctly, having never had to write it down before. Occam's Razor applies perfectly here. Bill, you're starting to make a fool of yourself again. Best stop.
Afraid AGD has to be right there Bill - half the tape boxes are spelled incorrectly; s'probably why we have the Cabin Essence/Cabinessence, Vegtables/Vega-tables/Vegetables, Heros & Villians/Heroes & Villains variations too.
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Quote from: John Manning on December 08, 2011, 08:50:21 AM
Afraid AGD has to be right there Bill - half the tape boxes are spelled incorrectly; s'probably why we have the Cabin Essence/Cabinessence, Vegtables/Vega-tables/Vegetables, Heros & Villians/Heroes & Villains variations too.
Which follows right along to Capitol and the US BEst Of Vol. 3; some labels have it spelled Heros & Villians, whilst others spell it Heroes & Villains.
Which is more correcterer?
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According to legend, Heros & Villian were Greek heros. Both had fallen in love with a virgin who danced in the court of the gods, and came to violent blows during a torrential rainstorm, fighting for the dancer's hand in marriage.
Just as each was about to slay the other with their raised swords, she threw herself between them and died instantly, both swords piercing her heart.
She was said to to haunt that spot ever more, dancing in the moonlight.
Her name? Margueritos.
I made that up.
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Quote from: John Manning on December 08, 2011, 01:32:10 PM
According to legend, Heros & Villian were Greek heros. Both had fallen in love with a virgin who danced in the court of the gods, and came to violent blows during a torrential rainstorm, fighting for the dancer's hand in marriage.
Just as each was about to slay the other with their raised swords, she threw herself between them and died instantly, both swords piercing her heart.
She was said to to haunt that spot ever more, dancing in the moonlight.
Her name? Margueritos.
I made that up.
What was really her name?
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