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 on: Yesterday at 10:04:16 PM 
Started by louielouie - Last post by phirnis
Truly, truly awful.

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 on: Yesterday at 08:38:38 PM 
Started by juliansuess - Last post by petsite
It was suppose to be an intervention I believe at the family's place in Big Bear. A New Year's gathering only it was only going to be Carl, maybe Brian, Landy and some REALLY BIG BODYGUARDS. Dennis would stay there until he was sober, then they would move on to wherever was next. Landy said he would have Dennis sober fast. That sounds ify, except getting someone sober is really easy. KEEPING THEM SOBER is the bitch.

I had a very good friend who was an alcoholic back in the mid-80s. He went to the hospital for stomach issues and while there he had the usual blood tests run. His cholesterol was 475! So his long time family doctor, who was too much of a weenie to make my friend fess up to his drinking was there when the internal specialist (a younger guy) walked in to discuss the results. My friend and his doctor were asking how they could lower his cholesterol to stop the onset of heart disease, etc. The internal doctor, looking at his notes and not my friend had the following conversation:

Doctor: I would not worry about the 425 number.

Friend: Really? Its not that bad?

Doctor: No it isn't. They way you drink you will be dead LONG BEFORE heart disease sets in. So I wouldn't sweat the high cholesterol.

My friend's family doctor took this new guy out in the hallway and dressed him up and down and then came back into the room to apologize to my friend for the other doctor being so rough on him. My friend asked if the hospital had a rehab floor. They did, and my friend asked his own doctor to get him transferred. He then quit seeing that doctor and starting seeing the new guy. He has been sober ever since. Sometimes, you have to scare the living sh*t out of people. Some of our mutual friends thought the new doc was too rough. Not me. I loved it! Saved my friends life.

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 on: Yesterday at 07:29:09 PM 
Started by juliansuess - Last post by Sound of Free
If I remember right, Carl had tried many times to help Dennis, and had promised that the group would pay for Dennis' treatment and buy the Harmony back for him if he would go to rehab. I think the Gaines book said that Dennis had checked in to dry out a couple of times in the final months, but left once because they wouldn't let a friend stay the night with him, and left another (and final?) time when Shawn called and said she needed him for something.

Again if I remember right, Carl was going to play the Landy card after the new year, after spending the holidays with Audree. It's so sad he never got the chance.

The dream scenario -- I know it would have been a HUGE longshot -- is that Landy would have gotten Dennis sober, then Dennis would have seen Landy for what he was and gotten Brian out, with both off booze and drugs.

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 on: Yesterday at 07:10:59 PM 
Started by Juice Brohnston - Last post by Lonely Summer
The ML&BJ tour usually attracts the crowds more inclined towards the surf and car classics. To be fair, ML has cultivated this image since the late 70s by ensuring their legacy for many is of that period of the BB musical legacy. It then becomes anachronistic to trot out counterculture songs like It's About Time when the casual listener and conservative county fair crowds have come to expect Little Deuce Coupe.

I mean it's not that weird to be honest, the car and surf songs era basically were their only successful period wasn't it? Didn't Sunflower like sell 1000 copies or something?
And Pet Sounds was a commercial flop.
The Beach Boys never had hit songs with anything that wasn't surfing, cars, or bikini clad girls.
It's sad that the general public never warmed up to God Only Knows, When I Grow Up to Be a Man, In My Room, and Warmth of the Sun.

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 on: Yesterday at 07:06:08 PM 
Started by louielouie - Last post by Lonely Summer

Ahh yes, Mike Love's vision of the Beach Boys has come to fruition and has, at the same time, hit a new low much further down than anyone could have imagined. Good job ASSHOLE!!  Evil Evil Evil Evil
It's true. The fucking asshole known as Mike Love singlehandedly destroyed the Beach Boys music and image with this piece of fecal matter.
f*** HIM!

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 on: Yesterday at 03:08:16 PM 
Started by juliansuess - Last post by Emdeeh
No, the boat was gone. He had been living with wife Shawn and their son Gage, but became estranged from her. He was most likely couch-surfing with friends.

juliansuess, if you can find a copy of Jon Stebbins' book on Dennis (Dennis Wilson: The Real Beach Boy), I strongly recommend reading it.

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 on: Yesterday at 02:17:18 PM 
Started by juliansuess - Last post by bossaroo
wasn't Dennis living on his boat at the end? not a home per se but not exactly homeless.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:56:43 PM 
Started by Rocker - Last post by Rocker
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 on: Yesterday at 01:51:48 PM 
Started by juliansuess - Last post by petsite
There was a plan to clean Dennis up via Landy that was to have been implemented after the New Year in 1984. It just wasn't to be. Also, Jimmy G. was also asking the family to allow him to become Dennis' conservator around the same time.

People won't stop using until they are ready. But I am a firm believer that if you can make that person stand in awkward place while they are thinking about it, you should do it. Meaning, if they want to think about it and you have to the power to cut off their money and food, throw them out on to the street, you should. To allow them all of the comforts of life is NOT a motivator. But Dennis was a rough guy who seemed to not mind being homeless etc. But he ALWAYS had people around him that gave him $100 here or there. Everyone should have said sorry, you are on your own.

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 on: Yesterday at 11:22:38 AM 
Started by juliansuess - Last post by marcella27
Sorry, I should have been more precise. I realize that Carl did try to help and Brian, in his own way, probably did too.  What I meant to say is that by all accounts neither of them was very well equipped to tackle the particular problem of addiction.

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