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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP Nicky Wonder on: August 26, 2019, 04:27:23 PM
I just saw this thread a few minutes ago (I've been away too long, obviously).  I'm shocked and saddened to hear of Nicky Wonder's death.  I didn't meet him, but I enjoyed his playing at two Brian shows in the past few years.  For those of you who did meet him, I appreciate your sharing your stories.  It sounds like he was good people as well as a fine musician.

Debbie KL, I'm also sad to hear of your husband's death.

Love and mercy, and good vibrations to all concerned.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hal Blaine RIP on: March 27, 2019, 02:58:09 PM
Adding my heartfelt thanks for everything, Mr Blaine.  You had a great run on this earth--90 years' worth!  You won't be forgotten in any of our lifetimes.

I got a kick out of Mr Desper's account of Blaine's two crews following him around from session to session, and I am in awe of Blaine's sense of time as Desper described it.  I checked with a ruler just now, and a quarter of an inch is about half the width of my little finger.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis’s Women on: September 12, 2018, 10:29:56 AM
Plus a custom t-shirt.... Smokin
Wasn't there a car with "Golden Penetrators" painted on it?  I think I read in the Gaines book that it was parked at Gregg Jakobson's house.

If so, membership would include access to a "Custom Machine" ;-)
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 12, 2018, 10:21:30 AM
I don't think I've ever heard his name spoken; I've read it in a number of books, articles, etc.  By the spelling, I'd guess it was pronounced "REE-lee."  Is that correct, or is it pronounced like the name "Riley"?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy 70th David Marks! on: August 24, 2018, 12:43:43 PM
So do I.  Best birthday wishes from a fellow David.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Brian Wilson credit in Beach Blanket Bingo movie on: June 17, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
Today I saw Beach Blanket Bingo on the big screen (part of a classic film series), and in the end credits, among the list of "Beach Boys," is Brian Wilson.  "Beach Boys" means the extras in the beach scenes, not the band from Hawthorne ;-).  I didn't see anyone who looked like our Brian.  Does anyone know anything about this?
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy Birthday Mike on: March 27, 2018, 03:34:55 PM
I never thought I'd get a chance to say "I'm only 57" on a Beach Boys forum.  'Fraid I can't top you, jeffh.

Keep on keepin' on, Mike and all of us.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Concerts the Wilsons attended on: December 22, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
Bruce, members of The Flame (and possibly Carl) attended a Gene Vincent concert at the Brass Ring, Ventura Boulevard, Sherman Oaks, in LA (20th May 1970)

Picture is here :
This picture is credited to the Bruce Johnston Archives.  Someone needs to sit down with him and do his memoirs!!!
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Carl Wilson and George Harrison: things they have in common on: September 07, 2017, 05:07:10 PM
Recently it's occurred to me that Carl and George have some things in common.  For instance:

They're the youngest members of their bands (except for David Marks for a short time).
They're both soft-spoken and spiritually-minded.
Carl fought to get conscientious-objector status during the Vietnam war (1967), and George put together the Concert for Bangla Desh (1971).
They were both overshadowed by others in their bands (Brian & Mike, and John & Paul).
They both died younger than they should have.

10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 20 years ago today.... on: August 31, 2017, 03:44:51 PM
Thank you, Eric Aniversario, for remembering this and starting this thread.  My apologies for being late to the party.  Carl always impressed me as a gentle, spiritual sort of person who gave his best for the fans and the Beach Boys, even prodding them to act like 1981 was just as important as 1961 (during 1981, when he went his own way for awhile).  God bless us, every one.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Glen Campbell 1936-2017 on: August 09, 2017, 09:34:19 AM
Rest in peace, Mr Campbell, and thanks for everything.  You won't be forgotten any time soon.  I'm glad you don't have to suffer from Alzheimer's anymore.

I was glad to read the heartfelt messages from Mike, Al, and Brian.  In Denny Tedesco's film The Wrecking Crew, Glen comes right out and says, "Brian Wilson's a genius."  Coming from him, that means a lot.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Types of automobiles The BBs' members have been in? on: August 06, 2017, 02:35:39 PM
I'd guess that when they played in Czechoslovakia in 1969 they would have been driven around in locally-built cars, Škoda <> or Tatra <>.  I don't know for sure, but I'd think that the options behind the Iron Curtain in those days would have been limited.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Focus and Patience of Brian in the Studio on: August 06, 2017, 02:23:38 PM
From the SMiLE sessions I've heard, Brian was patient and respectful of the Wrecking Crew musicians he worked with.  "Oh, yeah, that's real nice.  Real nice," he'd say when something went well.  They, in turn, were glad to play something more musically challenging than what they played on a lot of other sessions.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What are the top books/resources ever written/produced about the Beach Boys? on: August 06, 2017, 02:10:06 PM
The Nearest Faraway Place: Brian Wilson, the Beach Boys, and the Southern California Experience by Timothy White is especially good for the Wilson family background.  It's easier to understand what made Murry Wilson do things that he did after reading this.  It also goes into detail about the surfing, car, and skateboarding cultures of Southern California.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: R.I.P. Bobby Freeman on: February 12, 2017, 02:13:46 PM
Bobby performed with the Beach Boys several times:

27 Oct 1962 Fox Theater Cystic Fibrosis Benefit, San Francisco, with a cast of thousands
28 Sep 1963 Cow Palace, San Francisco, with Jan & Dean and a cast of thousands
26 Jun 1964 Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, with Rene & Rene and the Paris Sisters
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Hunky Dory (2011), movie with "Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)" on: January 22, 2017, 02:27:56 PM
I spotted this in an F.Y.E. store that's closing.  I'd never heard of it, but I was intrigued by several things.  It's set in Wales in 1976, and Minnie Driver plays a young drama teacher who directs an end-of-the-year production of The Tempest "that William Shakespeare and David Bowie would be proud of."  I bought it because I saw the Beach Boys included among the artists whose songs were used.

The Beach Boys song is "Don't Talk," performed by Minnie Driver, Aneurin Barnard, and Danielle Branch.  A quick search on IMDb <> tells me this is the only use of "Don't Talk" in a movie soundtrack before Love and Mercy.  I found it quite enjoyable.  The actors all do their own singing.

17  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Rolling Stone review on: January 22, 2017, 01:35:04 PM
The reply to the Ultimate Question might be something like, "They'd be even more troubled if they didn't."
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Were any BB landmarks captured on film in vintage Los Angeles footage? on: November 04, 2016, 02:34:44 PM
I tried a location search in IMDb on "bellagio" and got 32 hits.  See

A search on "hawthorne" ( got me 189 hits.

I went to Advanced Search, which took me to a Title Text Search.  I selected "Filming Locations" from the drop-down menu.

The Rockford Files (1974-80) did a lot of location shooting around greater Los Angeles, mostly of James Garner driving a copper Firebird.  I'm sure others will think of movies and TV shows that we haven't yet.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 38 years ago today.... on: November 04, 2016, 02:19:29 PM
I'll add my thanks to you for a lovely post, David1964.  I'm always glad to meet a fellow David.

There is something to be said--a lot, in fact--for the power of music.  The lyrics of "Add Some Music to Your Day" describe it.  The fact that this forum exists is further proof.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unusual Pronunciations and Accents in BB Songs on: October 23, 2016, 02:29:21 PM
I knew Al was born in Lima, Ohio, but I didn't know until I read James B. Murphy's book, Becoming the Beach Boys, 1961-1963, that he'd lived in New York State.  He went from part of first grade through part of third grade in Rochester, then completed third and fourth grades in the West Irondequoit School District near Lake Ontario, not far from Rochester.  The Jardines moved from New York to San Francisco in 1952 and then to Hawthorne in 1955.

As for their "California accents," this Wikipedia article, "North American English regional phonology,", may be helpful.  It's rather long, I admit.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unusual Pronunciations and Accents in BB Songs on: October 13, 2016, 06:54:27 PM
Al was born in Ohio and grew up there and in upstate New York before moving to California when he was about 10 years old.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Soul version of \ on: October 10, 2016, 05:04:45 PM
This is a thing of beauty!  It sounds to me like an approach Booker T and the MGs might have taken with the song.  I hear a definite black gospel influence as well.

I think Carl would have been proud of this version.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour) on: October 10, 2016, 04:31:30 PM
A thousand thanks for posting that photo of Brian with Maureen Love, HeyJude.  There's a lot of love and affection showing there.  Good vibrations too ;-)
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Time Sensititve -- Fires around Big Sur on: September 25, 2016, 02:30:28 PM
I'll add my prayers and best wishes for the Jardines and everyone else in the area.  This is scary stuff.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 25, 2016, 02:21:32 PM
I've checked Mike's book out of my local library and read it, and it's a mixed bag, as I expected.

I liked the stuff I didn't know much about before--that is, the family background stuff (plus an assortment of old family photos that I've never seen).

He tells the circumstances of his first marriage differently from what Stephen Gaines, Timothy White, and Jim Murphy wrote.  Their version is that Mike and Franny were going to go to Tijuana to get an abortion without telling anyone, but Franny's parents found out somehow, confronted Mike's parents with it, and insisted Mike marry their daughter.  The way Mike tells it, he got her pregnant twice.  The first time, they got her an abortion at a clinic in East Los Angeles.  The second time, they went to Tijuana and couldn't go through with it.  Mike writes that he told his mother that Franny was pregnant and they were going to get married.

Oh, and he doesn't mention Shawn until she gets involved with Dennis in her teens.

As for Mike's use of the six-letter N-word, I read it as a high-school locker-room thing.  He went to a high school with a substantial black student population and had several black teammates.  I think he was trying to illustrate that he was close enough friends with his black teammates to talk that way when he was with them, as if they were part of the same in-group.  I seriously doubt he would use that word out in the world in general, then or now.

As for Hawthorne at that time, I think the Wilson brothers may not have gone to school with black students.  There were plenty of places all over the USA in those days that didn't allow blacks to live there.

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