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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: March 31, 2021, 05:30:05 PM

It becomes a problem when a rare case like George Lucas comes along and intentionally makes the originals unavailable. That will always be a ridiculous thing to do, yes it's Lucas' right as an artist I suppose, but it's messed up when a generation of people have a deep emotional attachment to the original.


I sure hope no one ever adds more stormtroopers and dewbacks in Cool, Cool Water.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys re-unite for “Add Some Music to Your Day” re-recording. on: February 27, 2021, 03:48:23 AM
I loved it.

But there are two persons missing in this video (apart from Brian, of course) that I'd like to see more involved in any new Beach Boys projects / possible reunions : Blondie and Ricky ! Blondie's voice is always a welcome addition to anything.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys bought on: February 20, 2021, 08:13:20 PM

Did anyone tell Lennon "you can't do" Tomorrow Never Knows or Strawberry Fields? No - They worked to make it happen. Did anyone tell McCartney "you can't do" a single that lasts over 7 minutes? No - They changed the record-cutting process to enable that single to come out as recorded on 45rpm. Did anyone tell Harrison "you can't do" Indian music with Indian musicians featured on a pop record? No. It came out and influenced others to go outside Western music for inspiration.


Did anyone tell Ringo "you can't write a song about an octopus!"? No... Well... actually, yes, somebody probably did tell him that.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP Carl, 23 years ago today on: February 14, 2021, 02:45:58 AM
It's not very often that you can say that a person is a good person just by the way they look.
But Carl was probably one of them. He had that timid but angelic and benevolent smile. Probably never had a bad word to say about anybody (at least publicly), always cool, incredibly talented. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy... What a loss !
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was a Beatles-like career arc ever possible for the Beach Boys? on: February 11, 2021, 05:04:48 PM
It's just not the same trajectories, their respective images are completely different in my mind.

I'm 44 and I guess I've known the names of John, Paul, George and Ringo since I was a kid. They're all icons in their own ways. I knew their faces and their names before I even knew their music. Like Elvis, I guess. The Beatles were EVERYWHERE. In cartoons, in Astérix, on t-shirts, etc.

The Beach Boys? I knew the hit songs, but I learned their names at the saddest occasion, when I heard on television that Carl had died. Weirdly, the only one I knew was Dennis, but only because I'm a movie buff and I'd seen pictures of Two-Lane Blacktop. (My videoclub had a huge yellow poster of the film). To me, even though I hadn't seen the film at that time, Dennis was "the actor from Two-Lane Blacktop"... It's only after Carl's passing that I started to get really interested in the band and all of their albums, listening to them one by one.

But, what's interesting is that before I knew any of their names, The Beach Boys were almost mythical to me. When I was in high school, a friend named Karl (!) lent me a compilation that had just been released on CD. That would have been around 1992-93. (I'm pretty sure it was Good Vibrations : 30 Years of the Beach Boys). I remember vividly listening to it and being blown away. I already knew the big hits from different movies of that era (I Get Around was in Look Who's Talking, Kokomo of course was in Cocktail, Good Vibrations, Surfin'USA and California Girls were in everything), but listening to that box set was quite the experience. Without any knowledge about the band's history, listening to that collection just conjured all those beautiful images that, to me, represented America. The beaches, the waves, the youth and enthusiasm of the sixties, but also the sheer joy and beauty of these songs I hadn't heard before, like The Warmth of the Sun or Don't Worry Baby... I remember listening to that compilation in my room one weekend and how magical a moment that was for me. For a teenage boy from Belgium, they were "the soundtrack of America". When I thought about The United States, it's The Beach Boys' music that came to mind first. I didn't need to know who they were because their voices were so unreal and godlike they might as well not have been human. That was my impression after listening to that compilation that weekend and falling in love with the music.

Years later, I bought the albums, learned their history and their names and, of course, all the sad episodes of the saga that we all know about. And they kinda lost that mythical quality they had before. You cannot see Bruce wearing those goshdarn shorts all the time or Mike being weird at the Rock'n Roll Hall of Fame ceremony or Eugene Landy sitting in Brian's lap or Al's 90s ponytail or their apperances in Full House and Baywatch and still have that pure image of musical Gods I had in my mind.

That's also what separates them from the Beatles : the Fab Four never really had any of those embarassing moments. Plus, The Beatles are just four people. The BB had more lineups, the coolest one in my mind being when they added Blondie and Ricky. (And seeing Blondie playing with Brian these last few years has been a joy for me! - Now, Blondie, he's someone I still find REALLY REALLY fascinating for some reason. How cool is Blondie, seriously?...)

Now I wonder if I'd be a bigger fan if I didn't know any of their names and their whole history. With the Beach Boys, the music is and always will be enough. Their music is iconic. But apart from Brian, they're not really (and I'm saying this with love...) I remember crying my eyes out the day George Harrison died. I'm pretty sure I'll cry when we lose Brian (you know, years and years and years from now) and sure, I'll be sad for the others but... it's just not the same thing.

That being said, I'd really love to see them get the "Rutles" treatment. That would be fun!
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 23, 2020, 08:32:20 AM
I suppose that they simply haven't settled on a definitive release date and that's why there hasn't been any sort of promotion until now. It will come.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike November 1982 Jamaica Music Fest Interview Crashed by Dennis (and Gage) on: December 23, 2020, 08:29:02 AM
“I just wanted to show him on TV”- which IMO is exactly what Dennis’ motivation was here.

Thank you!
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike November 1982 Jamaica Music Fest Interview Crashed by Dennis (and Gage) on: December 21, 2020, 04:19:03 PM
Also, when the interviewer talks about Mike's collaboration with Jan and Dean, he says : "It's like a little Rolling Thunder Revue, isn't it?"... And Mike's weird answer makes me wonder if he has any idea what the interviewer's talking about.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike November 1982 Jamaica Music Fest Interview Crashed by Dennis (and Gage) on: December 21, 2020, 04:08:36 PM
The sound of the video is quite bad.

What does Dennis say to Mike just before he leaves?
He puts his hand on Mike's shoulder and says "I just wanted to..." What?
"Show him to you."

Then Mike says "Good" with a grinning fake smile.

Is that what he says? "Show him to you"?
Sorry, but I can't tell for sure with the noise in the background.

And then Mike goes on a tirade about Brian not having any breaks and overeating. And he's rolling his eyes when he says the words "psychiatric program".

This video is sad but fascinating. An amazing find!

10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: December 20, 2020, 12:26:05 PM
Call me crazy but I love and have always loved the disco version of Here Comes the Night.

Other bad decisions :

-parting ways with Blondie and Ricky in the seventies. I love what those guys brought to the band ;
-letting Bruce wear short shorts all the time ;
-Full House ;
-Baywatch ;
-Crocodile Rock.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 15, 2020, 08:32:44 AM
I had the exact same dream except I was totally naked.
I really don't know what it says about me.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 04, 2020, 08:38:39 AM
Relevant to perhaps nothing, I want to share a story.

Roughly 20 years ago, a co-worker at the time got tickets to see Vanilla Ice live. It was near where he lived, and the price was good, so he went. This was when Vanilla Ice was doing a tour of clubs and smaller venues - I guess to fund his real estate ventures or something.

So he's at the club, and everyone is waiting for Ice to come out. He has a DJ/mixer with him who's also acting as the emcee and trying to fire up the crowd, spinning some tracks, etc. He's yelling into the mic to give Ice his props, give him his props, etc. So the crowd does. And the guy keeps yelling at the crowd to give Ice his props, and the crowd does repeatedly...but they get tired of that bullshit and want to see Ice perform, which is what they paid to see. And Vanilla Ice is still not performing anything. The crowd is getting restless.

So the guy says it again, and my friend finally yelled back "We already gave him his props, now it's time to fucking perform!". Which Ice finally did. But the show was stopped at some point after the house lights came up and the emcee started yelling "Who's smokin' that wet? Is someone smokin' wet?". But eventually he did Ice Ice Baby which he could have done 12 times in a row and still given the crowd their show.


I guess the point is, the fans are growing tired of giving our props (i.e. continuous support and encouragement) to this band and this shelved box set and hearing dead silence. It would be nice to get at least some acknowledgement, or else fans will grow tired of repeating the same damn things over and over again for weeks if not months on end. The petition is there, the comments on all social media platforms including this forum are there, the fans have been consistently enthusiastic and active in their support for a release...It's time to f**king perform. 

I'm surprised Mike didn't try to do a collaboration with Vanilla Ice.

"Rollin' in my Five Point Wheeeennnnnnn"

Please, don't give him ideas...
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 04, 2020, 08:37:04 AM
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14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 10, 2020, 04:24:29 PM
Funny I started to read this whole thread (well, most of it...) the exact same day that the release of Tom Petty's long-awaited Wildflowers & All the Rest album was finally announced.

In that particular case, the delay was due to legal and family disputes between Petty's daughters and his widow. (I seem to remember it was annonced by TP himself around 2012 / 2013, four or five years before he passed away).

Completely different situation, of course, but there's a similarity in that we might finally hear the best music that particular artist's ever recorded.

So, it might take years for Feel Flows to finally come out, but I'm not losing hope!
Let's just hope it comes out in our lifetimes and that it doesn't have time to become another "BB mythic lost album" like Smile.

I signed the petition.
 
Greetings from Belgium.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis movie on German/Austrian/Swiss TV this weekend on: July 27, 2020, 07:15:34 AM
Yes, Dennis could have been a good actor.
But at least he wasn't in that damn Baywatch episode. Or in Full House.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The trainwreck that is The 50th ann. CD on: May 07, 2020, 07:03:36 PM
I bought it. I was thrilled to spend a nice afternoon at home listening to the Beach Boys. Listened to it once. Had to force myself to listen to it entirely. Then I sold it in a discount store the next day. I don't think I've ever been that furious after listening to an album.

I didn't have the chance to go to one of the shows (I'm from Belgium, by the way - Hi from Brussels!), so I was really thrilled to hear that a live album would be released. But the way they butchered most of the songs with that disgusting sound? No no no. I kept thinking : I'm glad Carl and Dennis will never hear this.

"Crank up the Beach Boys, baby, don't let the music stop!" sang Randy Newman. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have said that after listening to this monstrosity. It's probably one of the worst releases of all times from a major band. I can listen to SIP and actually enjoy a song or two. (I don't, but I think I could.) But this? Never again! What a waste, what a shame! 
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk on: April 28, 2020, 08:12:28 PM
I don't care about another reunion tour. Seeing Bruce doing nothing makes me kinda sad.
But another BB album would be great. Even if they have to record their songs separately. 
And if it's the last album of their career, they should include David and also Blondie for a song or two. Maybe even Ricky, wherever he is these days... But David and Blondie are always a welcome addition to anything.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Which Beach Boys song is your earworm? on: February 06, 2020, 04:08:09 PM
I'm going crazy just trying to delete my post here following a technical failure... Other than that, I'm good.

 Grin
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 06, 2020, 04:05:02 PM
If Mike was stripped of the licence and it went to Brian and Brian / Al / Blondie / maybe David started to tour as The Beach Boys, would Brian get the sole custody of Bruce ?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 04, 2020, 02:31:28 PM
What does a keynote speaker talk about at a Safari Club convention anyway?
Best way to shot a giraffe in the neck?
Do they have slide shows?
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 04, 2020, 07:16:30 AM
The problem with Mike is that it's never really about convictions. At least not anymore. Everything in what he does is about Mike, Mike's ego and hailing Mike as a good guy and / or a victim of the Wilsons, those druggies who stole his money and writing credits. TM, environmental protection, studying with Maharishi... it's all about praising Mike and singing about what a great, cool, peaceful guy he is. A song like "Brian's Back" is almost unlistenable to me, because it's not about Brian, it's about Mike's feelings and what a big-hearted sentimental sap he is.

So I can't really say that I'm surprised by this new "100% avoidable mess". Mike is not a man of convictions. He's an opportunist who'll just go where the money is. And I can understand that : he's an old guy and he doesn't really care anymore. The problem is that he craves acceptance by powerful people. It's rather pathetic, really. That's the only reason why he's dragging his former bandmates into this mess. When he does something like this, he just makes it impossible not to see him as an old fool, a hypocrit, someone who'd betray his ideals (and those of the Beach Boys) in a second. Invoking freedom of speech in this instance is really one of the most hypocritical things I've heard him say. And, of course, he'll never ever admit he's made a mistake. I almost pity him.

Every family has a cousin who's a hick, who's so full of himself and out of touch with the world that it becomes laughable. When that cousin becomes the spokesman for the family, trouble is inevitable.

I'm not sure what the idea was behind this show, but I guess Mike must have thought that nobody would notice.

I wonder what Bruce's opinion is on all this. Does he stand behind Mike and Mike's decisions in any circumstance? Has Bruce ever criticized Mike or shown his disagreement in the past?
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 03, 2020, 01:56:08 PM
Anyone remember the SIP album cover with whales, turtles, fish etc?


Some would argue that putting those beautiful creatures on the cover of SIP is worse than actually killing, hunting, slaughtering and eating them.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 03, 2020, 01:53:42 PM

Once again, because it's the brand name, the other bandmembers get associated with this garbage. And it's extra ironic, considering their best-known album has them posing with a bunch of wild animals in a zoo. And accurate or not, that association will continue because it's just too ironic and to iconic to not lump that together.


Yes, but what Beach Boys fans never knew about those animals on the Pet Sounds cover is that Mike and Bruce shot them later that day.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Which Beach Boys song is your earworm? on: January 31, 2020, 03:57:25 PM
Unfortunately, for me, it's... Still Cruisin'.

I made the mistake of listening to the album about a year ago and that damn song has been stuck in my head ever since. Because you only need to hear it once to know it by heart. Needless to say, I'm not a very sane man.
I don't count the times anymore when I'm in the street and I start snapping my fingers at passerbys and singing "Come on, let's cruise, you got... Nothing to lose, so come on let's cruise you got..."

I had the same problem with their version of Crocodile Rock a few years ago. Cost me a fortune in therapy.

"Crocodiiiile... Rock Rock Wahou... Crocodile... Rock Rock..."


25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: When was the last time Bruce Johnston played bass? on: January 17, 2020, 06:28:30 AM
When I see Carl post-Summer in Paradise until his death, all I can think is : "Poor Carl, you deserved better!"
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