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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 15 Big Ones or LA (Light Album) - Which do you prefer of the two? on: June 09, 2021, 11:00:45 PM
LA. Though I sometimes listen to 15BO with pleasure because it's probably the late period album I'm least familiar with, but also was exposed to nearly the earliest, so it always takes me a little by surprise hearing it after so many years away. It occupies a very peculiar place in the band's history; I tend to overlook it.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: All I Wanna do - Lead vocals: Love with Johnston? on: June 04, 2021, 07:13:49 AM
"A gentle thought comes in my mind" is all Mike. Not a Mike you usually hear, but it's Mike.

Bruce's "all I wanna do" refrain could be construed as a co-lead vocal in a way, but it is just one component of the backing vocal round. Brian and Mike sing the chorus lead in harmony. Everyone but Dennis is on it.

WHOA. I had no idea that part was Mike. The only other falsetto of his I can think of is his parody of Brian on "Cassius Love vs. Sonny Wilson."

There is his plaintive leap into falsetto on the latter half of the word "time" at 3:01 in Student Demonstration Time.

Oh, good catch! Didn't think of that one. A little wobbly, but he hits it.

These examples make me think he could get up there but didn't have much control in that register.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: All I Wanna do - Lead vocals: Love with Johnston? on: May 30, 2021, 06:46:14 PM
Bruce is doing the high part. "in my mi-i-i-ind" (1:14 mins.) and the multiple "All I wanna do" (starting around 1:26 mins. and 2:04)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVis0FbvJsU

Yeah, one of very very few Mike falsetto performances.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson interview 1968 on: May 27, 2021, 06:11:49 PM
Fascinating hearing them ballpark what would become the future when they are discussing the Chamberlin.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: PET SQUARES #3A The Beach Boys Outside 1962-63 on: May 27, 2021, 07:27:30 AM
As you'll see in the video excerpt, I enjoyed the Bob & Sheri single way more than I probably should have.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / PET SQUARES #3A The Beach Boys Outside 1962-63 on: May 25, 2021, 09:38:26 PM
Hi all...I just did a pretty cool bonus episode of PET SQUARES (a Geek's Guide to the Beach Boys) for patrons of the KarmaFrog1 youTube channel, an hour covering the Beach Boys' outside work in 1962-63: Kenny and the Cadets, Bob & Sheri, Rachel & The Revolvers, Gary Usher, Jan & Dean and The Honeys.

I had such a blast doing this (and of course, always hoping to expand patronage for the channel) that I put up the first part on youTube for regular consumption. If you're interested in seeing the whole thing, just follow the links in the first comment on the video to become a patron at any level. But it's a fun 20+ minutes regardless....a bit looser than your average episode.

https://youtu.be/V0GPV1VLyrY
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / California Harmony Factory #1 "Kings of Decay" on: May 24, 2021, 10:33:13 PM
30 seconds of a cappella goodness from the California Harmony Factory:

https://youtu.be/Gnx5cgEk38s
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 15, 2021, 07:40:51 AM
The show is back up for what it's worth...surge on over there and watch!

https://youtu.be/-iDFkXOV1Fw


I'm finished watching it. Just like the last episode, really enjoyable and insightful! I'm looking forward to the "Little Deuce Coupe" album. That one gets overlooked quite a bit, but there's some very strong material on it. Wondering if you will go into "Cherry, cherry Coupe"'s chorus where Mike is rapping underneath the backgroundvoices, something that Brian would later do in "Cabin essence" as well.

Thanks for flagging that part; I never noticed it but will keep an ear out.  I'm actually not that familiar with the next few albums so it will be fun for me.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 13, 2021, 07:48:26 PM
The show is back up for what it's worth...surge on over there and watch!

https://youtu.be/-iDFkXOV1Fw
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / PET SQUARES #3 reinstated to youTube on: May 12, 2021, 09:25:37 PM
The video so hot Brother Records tried to have it banned!

Not really, but after an erroneous copyright claim PET SQUARES #3 - a deep dive into the Surfer Girl album - has been reinstated to youTube, and you may now watch it at the same link as before:


https://youtu.be/-iDFkXOV1Fw

We lost some momentum with the video being taken down, so spread the word if you enjoy the show!

I want to thank BRI for being proactive in getting this matter resolved. Through their representatives they made it clear to me that this was a mistake and they are not trying to get BBs-related content removed from youTube. Creators may breathe easier for now.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Adam Jardine on: May 12, 2021, 02:18:24 AM
I've only met Adam a few times, but he struck me as being an extremely nice man. Just wanted to say that.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 11, 2021, 07:44:04 PM
Adam, was just about to watch this AND damn Brother have pulled it  Roll Eyes

Yup, for absolutely no reason. Clerical error, apparently.

AWA#40 came very close to being pulled - after nearly 1,500 views - because CDBaby refused to let me upload a sync license agreement that showed I had the right to use the one song they administered included among the 30 or so music cues in that show.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 11, 2021, 07:42:24 PM
Just for everyone's info (not to sidetrack this discussion), BRI has taken down the video and youTube assessed a copyright strike on the grounds that I posted "the entire Surfer Girl album." Since there's no content from the album at all barring a short segment where I break down the harmony parts to "Surfer Girl," this is obviously a clerical error albeit a careless and infuriating one. The video will return once BRI and I have had words on this subject.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 11, 2021, 08:09:33 AM
Yeah, it's pretty clear Murry's talking about, as Joshilyn says, pushing the vocals up in the mix or when it's going to tape.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 11, 2021, 02:31:59 AM
I'm watching right now. Enjoying it, just as last time. Thanks for sharing!


Re: The mysterious part on "Surfer Girl" (song)

Now, I haven't listened to the original and basically I'm not the one you should ask when it comes to multi part harmony. I just can't hear it. But I love it. What I was reminded of though, is an interview with Murry that I'd read in "Back to the Beach" (the german translation). Murry mentioned that he and Audree from time to time would fill out the voices on songs wthout the Boys' knowledge (IIRC Murry mentioned "409" as an example). I don't know if there's anything to that. Maybe he was just telling bs. But since this question came up I thought I would mention it.

Oh great info! Thank you for that. I wonder how they could have done it without the boys' knowledge though? Microphone in the booth? I'll ask Craig about that.


No idea. But it's certainly possible that Murry was just talking crap. So it should be taken with a grain of salt. I just remembered that interview when you talked about that "missing" part. But it would be interesting if Craig knows something about it. Even if it's just to debunk Murry's claim.

I think we're all pretty certain that Al is the phantom fifth part. But prior to Al's re-entry into the group there are a few places where it's theorized that there's an extra voice in the mix with various possibilities...David Marks, Bob Norberg...Murry's certainly possible.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Will you support my Carl Wilson petition? on: May 10, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
The one thing I'm starting to realize from doing the PET SQUARES show is what a great musician Carl was. He didn't have Brian's flair for composition but he was a much stronger and more well-rounded player, and contributed a lot more than just lead guitar. Basically anything that needed to be done within the band that was outside the realm seemed to get delegated to Carl.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 10, 2021, 06:41:23 PM
I'm watching right now. Enjoying it, just as last time. Thanks for sharing!


Re: The mysterious part on "Surfer Girl" (song)

Now, I haven't listened to the original and basically I'm not the one you should ask when it comes to multi part harmony. I just can't hear it. But I love it. What I was reminded of though, is an interview with Murry that I'd read in "Back to the Beach" (the german translation). Murry mentioned that he and Audree from time to time would fill out the voices on songs wthout the Boys' knowledge (IIRC Murry mentioned "409" as an example). I don't know if there's anything to that. Maybe he was just telling bs. But since this question came up I thought I would mention it.

Oh great info! Thank you for that. I wonder how they could have done it without the boys' knowledge though? Microphone in the booth? I'll ask Craig about that.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 10, 2021, 09:45:16 AM
Episode 3 of PET SQUARES, a Geek's Guide to the Beach Boys, is up! A thorough deconstruction of the SURFER GIRL album with input from some of the most knowledgable Beach Boys geeks in the world. Lots of new information and irreverent fun. Check it out and if you like it, spread the word!  Also let me know if you hear a low G on "Surfer Girl" or not (see the video to understand the reference).

https://youtu.be/-iDFkXOV1Fw
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / David Marks + MST3K on: May 04, 2021, 02:40:52 AM
Dave (along with two Mystery Science Theater 3000 alumni) does a cameo on the new episode of ADAM WALKS AROUND that covers MST3K film locations around Los Angeles (introducing a segment on "Agent For H.A.R.M."). It's at around the 40 minute mark.

If you're a fan of the show, you'll find a lot to enjoy!

https://youtu.be/sXhFJ_Oc0AU
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis’ contributions to L.A. on: April 23, 2021, 09:22:18 AM
"The falsetto? I remember reading it was Carl, although personally I thought it was Bruce."

There are two falsettos on this track.  During the bridge, Carl sings the falsetto after Dennis' line "I dream of you..."  For decades I thought this falsetto was Brian but Alan Boyd confirmed it was Carl.  The second falsetto comes on the tag of the track.   This falsetto is Bruce.  Bruce also provided falsetto on Pacific Ocean Blue (notably on End of the Show).

Just to cycle back here, the falsetto on the tag is actually Carl as well. I know this because I myself thought it was Brian, and I was over at Alan Boyd's house one night and he played me the soloed tag vocals. I was wrong; it was Carl.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 3 new videos from Dennis/Carl Wilson live tour on: March 01, 2021, 03:45:58 AM
Yep, there's two more now:
"All I Want To Do": https://youtu.be/xdglbDHB9LI
"Celebrate The News": https://youtu.be/BRBIVRYWyDI

Both pretty rockin' so if you like the gentler side of the band to stay gentle, might not be one's cup of tea!

I owe three more videos as part of the Patreon drive, one will probably be "Little Bird."
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / New PET SQUARES ep: "The Surfin' USA Album" on: February 28, 2021, 08:01:31 AM
Just did an early drop of the 2nd episode of PET SQUARES because of the success of the youTube Patreon drive (today is the last day) and the great response to the 1st episode.

The topic is the 2nd album SURFIN' USA and the dive is deep indeed, discussion about why Dennis didn't play on the single (or did he?), whether Al sings on "Lonely Sea," and Mike's surprisingly pervasive but inaudible sax playing throughout this album. It runs rather long at 47 minutes and there are enunciation issues in spots trying to get all the information in. I'll work on that in future episodes.

Here it is...enjoy and thanks for watching!

https://youtu.be/9viopZgxHKQ
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 3 new videos from Dennis/Carl Wilson live tour on: February 26, 2021, 07:17:52 AM
Ooh, thanks for the updated link! And the kind words!
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / 3 new videos from Dennis/Carl Wilson live tour on: February 22, 2021, 06:31:23 PM
I just uploaded three more videos from the semi pro-shot of the 2006 Songs of Dennis and Carl Wilson Tour with Adam Marsland's Chaos Band (feat. Evie Sands) & Alan Boyd.

These are really strong performances. The songs are:

Heroes and Villains: https://youtu.be/9Wxi0ZDHmlc
What's Wrong: https://youtu.be/9Wxi0ZDHmlc
Got to Know The Woman: https://youtu.be/AlOrQhpcqBo

These are parts of a Patreon drive for my youTube channel and continue ADAM WALKS AROUND and the new PET SQUARES: A GEEK'S GUIDE TO THE BEACH BOYS show. For each new patron in February I'm uploading new video. I've got episode two of PET SQUARES ready to go and I'll be uploading it when we hit the fourth new subscriber moving forward. If you want to pitch in to support the channel: www.patreon.com/karmafrog1. If not, just enjoy the videos and thanks!
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pilot for new Beach Boys youTube show: PET SQUARES on: February 18, 2021, 06:09:03 PM
Thanks guys. I've gotten a few corrections/challenges to my perceptions but it's been done in the nicest possible way LOL. I'm going to try to incorporate it all into the next show but the comments thread is developing into a pretty neat little well of minutia.

The response to the show has been terrific and there will be another one coming in a little while.

I'm just gonna work my way through the albums until I get bored with it, which is kind of an inevitability, so at that point I might just go off into the weeds with some weird topic. I'm also considering doing some offshoot videos for Patreon subscribers. The suggestions are appreciated.
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