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326  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: February 20, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
I personally believe No Pier Pressure may be as successful as TLOS.  No more, no less.  I said before that this would be his best album to date, and artistically, it is.  It seems free from the pressures of the Beach Boys or Landy or any other forces at work against him.  The writing is his best in years.  Commercially, the production will not be a selling point, as everything seems to be processed through a compressor, which makes tracks sound lifeless and loud.  The vocals (whether auto-tuned or not) are heavily processed, and as a result of that, they sound soulless. 

That said, I'm still excited for this album, and I can't wait to listen to it. 

Let the arguing continue.
327  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: No Pier Pressure Bundles are out on: February 18, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
Here's the real question...  Can it catch a wave?   Cheesy
328  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: February 18, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
Your opinion was rendered invalid the moment you posted what is above in caps.
I didn't know that.  Sorry.   Embarrassed
329  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: February 18, 2015, 01:25:54 PM
This new album sounds like a combination of Imagination and TWGMTR.  To me, the sound is comparable to Paul McCartney's NEW and I don't know why, but I'm not as bothered with the Imagination-style production as I feared I would be.
330  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: February 18, 2015, 01:22:31 PM
THIS ALBUM IS GOING TO BE BRIAN'S BEST RELEASE IN HIS SOLO CAREER.  I WILL BET.   Grin

Posted by someone who has evidently never heard TLOS.
Actually, I have, and the spoken word parts hurt the album a lot.  The A-Side is not very well sequenced in my opinion compared to the B-Side.   Undecided
331  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: February 17, 2015, 04:49:39 PM
THIS ALBUM IS GOING TO BE BRIAN'S BEST RELEASE IN HIS SOLO CAREER.  I WILL BET.   Grin
332  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 17, 2015, 04:07:45 PM
NO PIER PRESSURE SIZZLE REEL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vj5u-CXkE
333  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
Anyone with the chops to make an mp3 out of the song is more than welcome to shoot me a PM  Razz


Yes wouldn't that be nice  Grin

Haha
I've got one.   Evil
334  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 10:58:59 AM
Brian is one hell of a vocal coach if he can get people to sing a completely straight note with no pitch variation at all
And based on what at least one of the artists who sang on the upcoming album has said about the recording process for the new tracks in a television interview, Brian Wilson still does the same thing regarding singing on pitch in the studio. Take after take until it's right. Calling out flat or off-pitch notes from the control room. Just like the 60's.  Smiley
That's really interesting!  I can see it now, I think you can even see it a little bit on the That's Why God Made the Radio promo videos.  I will however stand by my belief that there is some pitch correction software being used during post-production on this new album.   Cheesy
335  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 09:10:13 AM
So you can't wait to hear the rest of the album so you can critique the sh*t out of it?
Honestly no.  I just would like to hear Brian Wilson continue to make art.  I only critiqued to observe and predict what is to come.  I didn't mean to completely trash it...  I'm sorry.
336  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 09:08:00 AM
It amazes me how everybody is now an expert on recording techniques and really has better  taste than Brian Wilson whenit comes to producing a song. There is a weird vibe on this board sometimes, almost as if you wanted the Beach Boys to be something different then they really were. When the album does come out I think this is the last place I'd want to be, too much negativity .Unless Brian Wilson visits, than everyone is on their best behavior.
Didn't mean to sound prudish when it came to reviewing the track.  It's just my two cents and my opinion on it based on the sounds of his earlier work, which is probably not a fair comparison.  I personally liked the sound of Brian Wilson's Lucky Old Sun album, Gershwin album and That's Why God Made the Radio, even with auto-tune (I use that word interchangeably with software that corrects pitch). 

Back to the song, it's a lot better than the Sweet Insanity sessions.  I hope we can all agree on that.  Smiley
337  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 09:01:45 AM
Please do not argue with ForHerCryingSoul.  He is an expert.
lol I'm really not an expert, but thank you.  I still can't wait to hear the other tracks in store for No Pier Pressure.  If that link for the song ends up being taken down, PM me.  I recorded it for reference.
338  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 07:45:24 AM
There is no pitch correction.  Brian corrects pitch live as he is cutting the vocals .  For example at the "I'm Into Something Good' session ; Carole King had not started singing the second verse when Brian pitch corrected..." Carole , your flatting" . He did it to Macca , to  EJ , to Nate Reuss, to everyone.  My understanding is the vocals are double tracked and buried with echo .
There is pitch correction.  If Brian does it live, then he uses one of these tools to do it.  Also, Brian is not a computer person so we can assume he is using a fellow engineer to do it for him while he watches over the engineer's shoulder.  The double tracked vocals heard are used to try to mask the effect of auto-tune, which rarely ever works.
339  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 07:42:02 AM
What is it that causes the Robo Al effect that i can hear? Ray said it's not Auto-tune, but that's just one brand of pitch correction software[...]
I can hear something "unnatural" on Al's voice. It's not on every syllable of every word, but there is some vocal effect going on in many places. Whether it's an intentional effect to get it sounding modern and shiny for teh internetz, or whether it's the production team not allowing a single (human) off-key note[...]
You have basically two choices of pitch correction software mate: Antares' Autotune and Celemony's Melodyne.  I believe it is the latter being used because Melodyne is built to correct specific notes in a recording and can add harmonies on the fly.
340  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson song just premiered on radio on: February 16, 2015, 07:33:08 AM
I'm about the earn the wrath of comments but here goes my impressions of Right Time:
It sounds bland.  Like Imagination meets That's Why God Made the Radio.  Brian Wilson and Joe Thomas' production is so full of reverb it is distracting to my ears.  The production sounds like a middle-of-the-road adult contemporary track and those guitar licks are unnecessary.  In fact I only hear little Brian Wilson production techniques in this song, the click noise, the drums, and the vocals.  The rest sounds like an average Thomas production.  The auto-tune is poor on Al Jardine's vocal while Brian's vocal sounds tolerable.  The verse and chorus sound way too much like Lay Down Burden, so much so that it sounds like the same song. 

Overall, I did not like this song, and I am getting worried whether No Pier Pressure will actually be a good record.

 I'm heartbroken.  Sad
341  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: How to Start Up a Band? on: February 15, 2015, 07:37:05 PM
I'd recommend some of Bobby Owsinski's books such as Music 4.0, The Recording Engineer's Handbook, and The Mixing Engineer's Handbook to start. You can find them here: http://www.amazon.com/Bobby-Owsinski/e/B001K8A8F8/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1423975334&sr=8-1.
Thank you so much!  Will read!
342  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Misheard Vocals on: February 15, 2015, 03:40:55 PM
Smell the kitchen now
Hear the maid whistle a tune,
My thoughts are fleeting now

Smell the kitchen now
Hear the maid, with solitude
My thoughts are fleeting now
Which one is the right one?

Also on Spring Vacation I heard:
Bees and honey (Wild Honey reference?)
or
Bees and money (what)
Ain't life funny?

Which one is right??
343  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Our Team - seldom seen MIU Album documentary on: February 15, 2015, 03:28:14 PM
Mike Come Back to LA sounds like Some of Your Love from KTSA...
344  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: February 12, 2015, 04:21:56 PM
Somewhere (god knows where) in my tape collection I have a soundboard audio recording of this show.
If you ever find it, can you tell us the tracklist??
345  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / How to Start Up a Band? on: February 11, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Hey as a few of you guys know, I and two others are trying to start a group.  We call ourselves Rebellious, and we want to write songs and perform them in albums and live for an audience.  I have looked up numerous online guides to officially start up a band and I am not sure where to go first.  Does any of you fellow musicians have any suggestions for where we should start?

Just for giggles here is our website.  We planned an album release in November but we got stuck and shelved it.  The site has not been updated since and, thankfully, no one really saw it.  Does it look any good?

http://www.rebelliousband.t28.net/

We have a spotty server so it might not load up properly right now...  I'm trying to fix it.  Bear with me.  If the site doesn't work, here is our logo:


Here it is animated:

(The image only loops once, it's supposed to be a sort of animation for the website or a live show)

As you can see, I have already faced a lot of problems and I haven't even started truly recording yet.  I would honestly like to make music for a living and hopefully network during college to get paid for my/our music.  Music is my passion and I cannot see myself doing anything else in my life so if anyone could point me and the band in a good direction to start, that would be so great!

Thank you!   Smiley
346  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Airplane is about two lovers coming down from an acid trip on: February 10, 2015, 03:08:13 PM

  • Why would Brian write about flying in an airplane when he was so afraid of flying? He makes the whole experience sound nice and easy. Is it really about an acid trip?
Perhaps Brian was relieving stress of flying.  Maybe he was talking to Landy about the freak out in '64 and he told him to write about it.  I honestly think the laid-back feel of the song was to contrast the stress that came with flying at the time.

Or maybe I'm completely wrong about his fear of flying and his freak-out was due to other issues.

 Huh
347  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Papa Oom Mow Mow 1977 on: February 10, 2015, 03:01:36 PM
I'm torn because as cool as these artifacts are, I still think it was a big mistake to let Brian try to sing as many leads ( especially the leads he clearly could no longer sing) during this time. On one hand it's Brian, on the other hand it really affects the songs, the sound, and the flow of the concerts to have Brian sing. I guess they figured the more he sings, maybe the better he will get but that didn't seem to be happening. I know it's Brian f-ing Wilson but to have a world class rock band have vocals that sound that bad is tough to take.
I honestly think Brian needed more practice vocalizing with the band at that time.  Think about it: he was basically dragged into touring by the band after the whole Endless Summer fiasco with even more pressure from his doctor, his fans, and maybe even his wife.  I guess a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do in those circumstances.  However, as much as I believed his voice was completely destroyed during the seventies, I am astonished that he could ever hit that high F note (same one in Surf's Up) again.  After listening to that song, I now believe Brian's voice deteriorated significantly in the mid-range plus his tone became deeper due to the drug influences in his life.
348  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Hey Everybody (It's a new member) on: February 10, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Thanks for the link! If it wasn't for free, I wouldn't even post on this thread. I hope you share the vox too, when you finish the cover. Anyway, welcome aboard! got a question: what's the meaning of your name? Is it after a song you wrote?
Thank you so much!  The name I have is from an unreleased Wilson/Paley track called "Must Be a Miracle" which for some reason struck a chord with me.  Those tracks are (mostly) amazing and I hope they will be released!

I uploaded a pitch-corrected version of it on my channel, along with a few other Beach Boys tracks.  I don't quite know what the policy of posting bootlegs embedded as YouTube videos are, but since they are on a different site and are only copyrighted as belonging to some record company on there, I assume it is legal and won't completely shut the site down...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF7GfqhLgF8

Enjoy!
349  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Hey Everybody (It's a new member) on: February 08, 2015, 08:55:24 AM
Hi there you guys.  I'm sure this reference to American Spring as the subject was used before so I hope I'm not too unoriginal by using that as my first post to say hi!

To start, I am a musician/songwriter who formed a group of three called Rebellious.  The goal of this group is to make music Rebellious to the current trends and to shake them up.  We haven't really started yet, but we are hoping to record some songs too (including a cover of This Whole World).

As of this moment I have finished the instrumental part of a cover of Let's Put Our Hearts Together from the splendid Love You album.  I hope you all enjoy it.

Note: Fixed some piano chords.  Download using this link instead.
https://www.mediafire.com/?d3ozw1m224euy0f

I have also performed in many plays in my school, most notably Don Pedro from Much Ado About Nothing, and Mr. Halloway from Something Wicked This Way Comes (Ray Bradbury), and in the summer I performed at the Riverwalk Theatre as Wilbur from Charlotte's Web and Mr. Smee from Peter Pan.

I have a tremendous love for the Beach Boys and hope to share my love for them on this board!
Good day!   Cheesy
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