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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Strange dream that showed Jack Reiley's Western Justice album cover on a WWE pr on: October 13, 2022, 04:07:38 PM
Somehow I'd never listened to this before... wow, it's really a great record! Jack Reilly seems to have picked up a lot from Carl (and to some extent it must have gone the other way), and the team of musicians, arrangers, producers he assembled in Holland sounds really extraordinary. The lead vocals are definitely the weak point, but the songs and arrangements are pretty fantastic. I know the break with Jack Rieley happened for a variety of reasons on both sides, but man, this sensibility would have produced one hell of a Beach Boys record with the work Dennis was starting to do at this time in the mix....

I actually like Jack's voice. Not great, but unique.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Strange dream that showed Jack Reiley's Western Justice album cover on a WWE pr on: October 13, 2022, 09:00:07 AM
Had the strangest dream last night! Was watching a WWE wrestling promo by a character named Bray Wyatt.  He is a strange character like the Undertaker or Kane were. I included a video here for people to get an idea. But in this dream,, the front cover to Jack Reiley's album Western Justice was in the background! Jack Reiley being the Beach Boys manager in the early 70s, and the album is so obscure, you have to order it by mail! I thought that was the weirdest but coolest reference ever! But only a dream.

https://youtu.be/K-9WNN7P-eg

3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Wilson/Paley Sessions on: August 15, 2022, 04:08:52 PM
You nail this. Unreined Brian, like in most of Love You. That is exactly the reason I love the WilsonPaley sessions.
And that's probably why I'm not head over heels in love with them. There are some gems - Everything I Need, Still a Mystery, Soul Searching, Gettin' In Over My Head- and some songs I can't stand - Chain Reaction of Love comes to mind.

I love Chain Reaction! But that's ok. We all have different tastes. I was so happy that My Solution was finally released even though many hate it.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Wilson/Paley Sessions on: August 15, 2022, 07:52:24 AM
I think the 90s Payley Sessions was the best music of Brian's solo career! While Lucky Old Sun and Gershwin are the best released albums. I am definitely for an official release of these songs! I feel that starting with Imaginations. Brian was reigned in a bit. But the Payley sessions have a bit of  the unleashed Friends/Love You Brian. Chain Reaction of Love is my favorite song from these sessions!

I know that Gettin In Over My Head has some remakes, but not as heart felt, with the exception of The Waltz. Speaking of which, why isn't Gettin In Over My Head available to play online anywhere? I own the cd, just curious. I tried searching on here because I am sure others have asked the same question. But this site keeps freezing up when I search.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Anyone think of She's Going Bald this week? on: March 29, 2022, 05:07:45 PM
I think of this song every time I brush my thinning hairÖ

I'm right there with you!
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Anyone think of She's Going Bald this week? on: March 29, 2022, 04:42:31 PM
https://youtu.be/OUsXUinQf1o

Strangely relevant
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 60th Anniversary Tour on: March 23, 2022, 04:53:54 PM
Brian, Mike Al, Bruce, Dave, Blondie and Ricky. Plus California Saga. Wouldn't that be cool? That's my Summer Dream.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Scott Bennett on: March 23, 2022, 02:40:02 PM
I hope he has changed his ways and done soul searching. I believe people can change. I don't get drunk because I am worried that I will do something stupid.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson lost album Tornadoes? on: March 22, 2022, 06:26:14 PM
I would like to give a shout out to the YouTube channel called Beach Boys Talk. They interviewed author and musician Jon Stebbins recently. He mentioned something about Dennis recording enough material to record 3 album's in 76-77. We all know about Pacific Ocean Blue and Bambu. But he mentioned another working title called Tornadoes.  Anyone know anything about this? Have songs been circulating from it?

Tornado was a working title for Bambu...another was End Of The Line, according to Carli MuŮoz. Since Dennis had a three-album deal with Caribou, the latter title may have been earmarked for the last of the three. Anyway, there were plenty of reports at the time of him recording all three albums in rapid succession, but as we know the latter two were never completed. There are probably enough unfinished tracks, instrumental-only tracks, alternate versions, alternate mixes...and POB tour rehearsal tapes...to fill up another release, should Mr. Guercio decide to bankroll it. Smiley

For further reading on this topic, I refer you to http://beachboysarchives.com/page11...and http://beachboysarchives.com/page12.

Thanks for the info!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Dennis Wilson lost album Tornadoes? on: March 22, 2022, 10:35:35 AM
I would like to give a shout out to the YouTube channel called Beach Boys Talk. They interviewed author and musician Jon Stebbins recently. He mentioned something about Dennis recording enough material to record 3 album's in 76-77. We all know about Pacific Ocean Blue and Bambu. But he mentioned another working title called Tornadoes.  Anyone know anything about this? Have songs been circulating from it?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Dennis Wilson's Rainbows played at Starbucks! on: October 13, 2021, 02:01:06 PM
I was pleasantly surprised to hear this. I asked the manager if they control the music played, and she said no. But I told her I love the song and surprised to hear it!

I know there was an older thread somewhere on songs surprised to hear at stores. But I'm too excited to find it right now. 😄
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Dennis Wilson's Rainbows played at Starbucks! on: October 13, 2021, 12:01:03 PM
I was pleasantly surprised to hear this. I asked the manager if they control the music played, and she said no. But I told her I love the song and surprised to hear it!

I know there was an older thread somewhere on songs surprised to hear at stores. But I'm too excited to find it right now. 😄
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Dennis Wilson's Rainbows played at Starbucks! on: October 13, 2021, 11:59:09 AM
I was pleasantly surprised to hear this. I asked the manager if they control the music played, and she said no. But I told her I love the song and surprised to hear it!

I know there was an older thread somewhere on songs surprised to hear at stores. But I'm too excited to find it right now. 😄
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Ultimate Classic Rock - TOP 50 American Bands Of All Time on: July 06, 2021, 11:36:35 AM
I know these lists are objective. Cool to see the Beach Boys at number 1! But a band like Chicago should be much higher, while a band like the Byrds should be much lower. Regardless of who you think is better, Chicago made hit songs in 4 decades. The Byrds were only around for a few years.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: on: May 08, 2021, 09:54:09 AM
Oh yeah! I saw this recently. Carl seems so much more open than normal in this interview.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Great YouTube Review Channel on: November 13, 2020, 09:44:36 AM
Yes, I have seen several of his videos. I was trying to find rare reviews of less popular Beach Boys albums and found him. But it inspired me to review every single Beach Boys album. Unless any have been blocked, they should all still be up.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 13, 2020, 09:41:27 AM
I just uploaded a copy of a Smile bootleg onto YouTube. Funnily enough, the piano demo of Surf's Up was tagged as the "Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix" some people are getting. Yes, the claim did include the entire first movement (with a different melody and ending to the backing track) and the falsetto outro from it, so this might suggest it's NOT a re-remix of the Smile Sessions version, but rather something closer to a '67 Surf's Up.

That's not how the site's copyright detection works, it'd only take a few seconds of similar audio for the algorithm to find something to flag.

Sorry, I'm a few days late on this conversation. I have been having issues with album reviews getting blocked now. Apparently, I can't play a song in the background while I review them anymore. At least some songs.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why do I always get double posts? on: November 13, 2020, 09:30:39 AM
Mayor Giuliani claims posting once but replying twice could be Ďinterference from Mars for all we know!í The lawyers are on it.

 Shocked

19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why do I always get double posts? on: November 04, 2020, 03:13:19 PM
I've found that lately when I start a topic  and hit the 'Post' button it doesn't appear as if the post has been made but it actually has. So I just hit the post button once and then manually go back to the General On Topic Discussions page to check. (Copy your post first, just in case)

This time I only clicked post once. Because this has happened several times. But it still double posted. 🙈
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / I voted Beach Boys Party! on: November 04, 2020, 01:48:17 PM
I decided to not vote democrat or republican. But a 3rd party!
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Why do I always get double posts? on: November 04, 2020, 01:47:18 PM
I decided to not vote democrat or republican. But a 3rd party

(There must be a glitch on this site)
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 22, 2020, 01:42:49 PM

I have tried to reason with them. They have made up their minds that anything bad that happens is Mike's fault. Ignoring the releases of the Smile Sessions, Made In California, Sunshine Tomorrow, Friends Sessions and 20/20 sessions. Some heavy with Dennis songs. Which all of a sudden, the Feel Flows box is on hold because of Mike's objections to Dennis songs? The same Mike that the song Forever is normal song in his setlist? But these fans have made up their minds and believe that many false rumors and claims are historical facts.

Magic Transistor Radio: You must be selectively ignoring the posts by Dennis Wilson's official biographer in this thread, who I think ranks as someone who would know what's going on behind the scenes. Or are you going to argue with him, and tell him that he's pushing false rumors?

Because that's basically what you're doing.

As has been stated by people who would know: just because there's examples of Mike greenlighting Dennis content in the past, that doesn't by definition mean that he isn't blocking it this time around.

I assume you are speaking of Jon Stebbins? I respect him. I haven't seen his posts on this topic. I will look for them.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 22, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
Just my own feeling but wouldnít leaking the track set publicly be a breach of confidentiality and possibly endanger the set further and burn bridges in the process?

I have the same feeling.
I still think the best solution is to convince these guys (especially that person who wants to remove Dennis songs from the set) to clear their minds, and try to push hard for this material to be released, even talking about more sales/more money (and thatís somebody motivation for all he does) it would generate if these songs are gonna be included.
And if itís not enough, so maybe itís better to cancel the damm thing and release it digitally.
Maybe itís better than release a set without Dennis tracks only to satisfy some jealousy attitudes/wishes/demanding of this person.

Respectfully disagree. The media will control this and drive the band's response once that original track list is out in public view. The only move that could save face would be to release it as originally conceived, otherwise the band sinks further into the morass of the "fractured" meme that is now around their neck. Without a release of this material, they would be subject to a public humiliation.

The "mob wife" approach is to just do nothing and wait for the day when we can "love" again, except that if you watch THE SOPRANOS you see that it's just a variant of the circular firing squad.

We don't need any more mob wives, we need a Daniel Ellsberg.

Now, of course, there's nothing to prevent the group from compromising and removing Dennis' material, but they will take a hit if they do so, particularly when it's public knowledge that they decided to remove it for no good reason except to placate a certain someone AGAIN.

If I were working with Brian and Al and Carl's estate I'd be on the phone RIGHT NOW saying that you need to figure out a way to release this to stop the bleeding that's coming your way through no real fault of your own, but because the Lovester is still out of control. Releasing FEEL FLOWS is now in a position to help stop the bleeding.

FREE FEEL FLOWS!

Maybe I've missed something, but how do you know it's Mike that is causing all of this? It could be Brian that don't want the material released. Or Al, or Carls estate. Or.. Bruce?
Point is, we don't actually know.

Or have I missed something?

I have tried to reason with them. They have made up their minds that anything bad that happens is Mike's fault. Ignoring the releases of the Smile Sessions, Made In California, Sunshine Tomorrow, Friends Sessions and 20/20 sessions. Some heavy with Dennis songs. Which all of a sudden, the Feel Flows box is on hold because of Mike's objections to Dennis songs? The same Mike that the song Forever is normal song in his setlist? But these fans have made up their minds and believe that many false rumors and claims are historical facts.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 22, 2020, 01:28:17 PM
Just my own feeling but wouldnít leaking the track set publicly be a breach of confidentiality and possibly endanger the set further and burn bridges in the process?

I have the same feeling.
I still think the best solution is to convince these guys (especially that person who wants to remove Dennis songs from the set) to clear their minds, and try to push hard for this material to be released, even talking about more sales/more money (and thatís somebody motivation for all he does) it would generate if these songs are gonna be included.
And if itís not enough, so maybe itís better to cancel the damm thing and release it digitally.
Maybe itís better than release a set without Dennis tracks only to satisfy some jealousy attitudes/wishes/demanding of this person.

Respectfully disagree. The media will control this and drive the band's response once that original track list is out in public view. The only move that could save face would be to release it as originally conceived, otherwise the band sinks further into the morass of the "fractured" meme that is now around their neck. Without a release of this material, they would be subject to a public humiliation.

The "mob wife" approach is to just do nothing and wait for the day when we can "love" again, except that if you watch THE SOPRANOS you see that it's just a variant of the circular firing squad.

We don't need any more mob wives, we need a Daniel Ellsberg.

Now, of course, there's nothing to prevent the group from compromising and removing Dennis' material, but they will take a hit if they do so, particularly when it's public knowledge that they decided to remove it for no good reason except to placate a certain someone AGAIN.

If I were working with Brian and Al and Carl's estate I'd be on the phone RIGHT NOW saying that you need to figure out a way to release this to stop the bleeding that's coming your way through no real fault of your own, but because the Lovester is still out of control. Releasing FEEL FLOWS is now in a position to help stop the bleeding.

FREE FEEL FLOWS!

Maybe I've missed something, but how do you know it's Mike that is causing all of this? It could be Brian that don't want the material released. Or Al, or Carls estate. Or.. Bruce?
Point is, we don't actually know.

Or have I missed something?

I have tried to reason with them. They have made up their minds that anything bad that happens is Mike's fault. Ignoring the releases of the Smile Sessions, Made In California, Sunshine Tomorrow, Friends Sessions and 20/20 sessions. Some heavy with Dennis songs. Which all of a sudden, the Feel Flows box is on hold because of Mike's objections to Dennis songs? The same Mike that the song Forever is normal song in his setlist? But these fans have made up their minds and believe that many false rumors and claims are historical facts.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Challenge: Combine Little Deuce Coupe & Shut Down Vol. 2 into a classic album? on: October 18, 2020, 12:28:25 PM
I have combined Surfer Girl with Little Deuce Coup and Shut Down vol 2 with All Summer Long. But haven't done this yet, so here goes:

1. Little Deuce Coupe               8. Fun, Fun, Fun
2. Shut Down                             9. Don't Worry Baby
3. Be True to Your School     10. The Warmth of the Sun
4. Cherry Cherry Coupe         11. Pom Pom Play Girl
5. Spirit of America                12. Keep an Eye On Summer
6. Our Car Club                       13. Shut Down part 2
7. Custom Machine               14. Why Do Fools Fall In Love
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